Mr. Ambien Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Oh god please don't include Penn Jillette in your crazy, Beck... Penn Jillette mocked conspiracy theorists, Beck is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Now then.... what's so "bad" about Glenn Beck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 He's a scare mongering conspiracy theorist. Also fundamentally dishonest. His faux movements are annoying as are his attempts to rebrand himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Your title is misleading. You do know there is a difference between a Lib/Liberal and a Libertarian? It is a moral idea that emphasizes natural law, individual responsibility to oneself, and less government infringement. Politically it is conservative, but socially permissive. For example, the government should not dictate as to whether free people can smoke marijuana. It is not that Libertarians are pro-marijuana, they are pro-self determination as in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Your title is misleading. You do know there is a difference between a Lib/Liberal and a Libertarian? It is moral idea that emphasizes natural law, individual responsibility to oneself, and less government infringement. Politically it is conservative, but socially permissive. For example, the government should not dictate as to whether free people can and smoke marijuana. It is not that Libertarians are pro-marijuana, they are pro-self determination as in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Which Glenn Beck are you talking about .. he changes position faster than a hooker changes her undies .. he is trying to re-make himself as some kind of "White Oprah" .. neither of them do anything for me, nor represent the best interests of society .. have attached a couple of clips of Glenn lying about reality .. This guy is a freeking nut job .. a chameleon in wolves clothing .. did you run out of tinfoil yet? .. no matter where Glenn settles at any moment, he will shift gears and positions to suit his economic agenda .. that agenda being "what is good for Glenn" .. Cherry pick his lucid moments all you want .. bottom line is he is mentally ill .. a re-occurring problem in the US of A .. he is the frigging poster boy .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeone Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 Glenn Beck: "Badge of Honor" that I'm more loathsome to Al Gore than Al Jazeera By Alexander C. Kaufman | Reuters – 3 hrs ago http://news.yahoo.com/glenn-beck-badge-honor-im-more-loathsome-al-220305554.html LOS ANGELES (TheWrap.com) - It took 15 minutes for former vice president Al Gore to reject Glenn Beck's offer to buy Current TV - a point of pride for the former Fox News host-turned-media entrepreneur. Beck told Fox News's Bill O'Reilly on Thursday that it was a "badge of honor" to not be "anywhere close to his agenda, to his values." "Did you really make an offer to buy this dopey network?" O'Reilly asked Beck, who has previously said he attempted to buy Gore's nascent cable network, sold recently to Qatar-based Al Jazeera. "We debated back and forth because I think it was worth about half of what they paid," said Beck, who offered to make a bid for Current. "They said, 'We actually have to go to the vice president - we're going to call you back.'" About 15 minutes later, he said the phone rang. "'The vice president has a reputation and under no circumstance will he ever entertain an offer from Glenn Beck,'" Beck recalled the Current representatives saying. "His legacy of his network was too important, so he sold it to Al Jazeera." Beck went on to accuse Al Jazeera of conspiring to hide Osama bin Laden. he also said the network supports the stoning of women and homosexuals in the streets of Qatar. Al Jazeera completed its purchase of the liberal-minded network on January 2, reportedly paying $500 million for a cable foothold in the United States. The deal has raised eyebrows among those who question Al Jazeera's editorial independence. The Arab- and English-language news channel is funded mostly by the Qatari royal family, who allegedly have tampered with its editorial integrity, according to U.S. State Department cables published in 2010 by WikiLeaks. "You believe that Al Gore, in his mind, believes you are more of a threat to the world than Al Jazeera?" O'Reilly asked. "I do absolutely believe he is more in line with Al Jazeera than anything I would preach," Beck said, calling Gore "a fraud." "I think he thinks I'm much more dangerous than Al Jazeera - he's that insane." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Glenn Beck: "Badge of Honor" that I'm more loathsome to Al Gore than Al Jazeera By Alexander C. Kaufman | Reuters – 3 hrs ago http://news.yahoo.co...-220305554.html LOS ANGELES (TheWrap.com) - It took 15 minutes for former vice president Al Gore to reject Glenn Beck's offer to buy Current TV - a point of pride for the former Fox News host-turned-media entrepreneur. Beck told Fox News's Bill O'Reilly on Thursday that it was a "badge of honor" to not be "anywhere close to his agenda, to his values." "Did you really make an offer to buy this dopey network?" O'Reilly asked Beck, who has previously said he attempted to buy Gore's nascent cable network, sold recently to Qatar-based Al Jazeera. "We debated back and forth because I think it was worth about half of what they paid," said Beck, who offered to make a bid for Current. "They said, 'We actually have to go to the vice president - we're going to call you back.'" About 15 minutes later, he said the phone rang. "'The vice president has a reputation and under no circumstance will he ever entertain an offer from Glenn Beck,'" Beck recalled the Current representatives saying. "His legacy of his network was too important, so he sold it to Al Jazeera." Beck went on to accuse Al Jazeera of conspiring to hide Osama bin Laden. he also said the network supports the stoning of women and homosexuals in the streets of Qatar. Al Jazeera completed its purchase of the liberal-minded network on January 2, reportedly paying $500 million for a cable foothold in the United States. The deal has raised eyebrows among those who question Al Jazeera's editorial independence. The Arab- and English-language news channel is funded mostly by the Qatari royal family, who allegedly have tampered with its editorial integrity, according to U.S. State Department cables published in 2010 by WikiLeaks. "You believe that Al Gore, in his mind, believes you are more of a threat to the world than Al Jazeera?" O'Reilly asked. "I do absolutely believe he is more in line with Al Jazeera than anything I would preach," Beck said, calling Gore "a fraud." "I think he thinks I'm much more dangerous than Al Jazeera - he's that insane." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeone Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 Dick Armey Sticks His FreedomWorks Payback to Glenn Beck ELSPETH REEVE JAN 4, 2013 http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/01/dick-armey-sticks-his-freedomworks-payback-glenn-beck/60624/ Associated Press Former FreedomWorks chairman Dick Armey revealed that the Tea Party group paid Glenn Beck about $1 million to say "nice things" about the group on his radio show, and that it got a negative return on that investment, in an interview Friday — with the liberal group Media Matters, of all places. It's the latest strange revelation in the FreedomWorks civil war. Armey reportedly tried to stage an armed coup last fall, but his reign didn't last long, and donor Richard J. Stephenson agreed to pay Armey $400,000 a year for 20 years to go away. Apparently that didn't come with a non-disparagement clause. After the liberal magazine Mother Jones posted a copy of a FreedomWorks document about its fundraising, Armey reached out to Media Matters to explain how the group wastes money by trying to raise money through radio hosts Beck and Rush Limbaugh. Armey said FreedomWorks paid Beck $1 million to say nice things about the group to raise more cash, but Beck's appeals raised considerably less than that. "The arrangement was simply FreedomWorks paid Glenn Beck money and Glenn Beck said nice things about FreedomWorks on the air," Armey said, adding that, initially, Beck's kind words were only supposed to cost $250,000 a year. "Once that was approved by the trustees, it then took on a life of its own, it got bigger than we understood it to be. All of a sudden it was we are paying Limbaugh as well as Beck." The price of Beck's nice words then went up to $1 million a year, Army said. He explained how it was a bad investment: "If Limbaugh and Beck, if we were using those resources to recruit activists and inform activists and to encourage and enthuse activists, that's one thing... If we are using these things to raise money; one, it's a damned expensive way to raise money; and two, it makes raising money an end on to itself not an instrumental activity to support the foundation work that our organization does... "It is like federal budgeting... We count the receipts we get from people who have sent in money, and we, meaning they, I am not a part of it anymore, do not count what the funds that are laying out are. They don't say, we paid Beck a million dollars and we had this program where we raised $300,000, you had a net cost of $600,000, or whatever the numbers are." included in the document posted by Mother Jones is the chart at right, which shows there is, indeed, some kind of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh "program." If you can't quite remember all the twists and turns of the FreedomWorks saga, here are some highlights: December 3: Mother Jones reports Armey abruptly quit in November, demanding his likeness, signature, and book stop being used to raise money for FreedomWorks, prompting a wave of speculation about what might be going on. December 5: Armey reveals the fight was over FreedomWorks president Matt Kibbe's book, which Armey said Kibbe created with a great deal of FreedomWorks resources but won the rights to personally. That means Kibbe makes money off the book, not FreedomWorks. December 12: Mother Jones posts FreedomWorks internal memos in which Kibbe claims board members who called for an investigation into his book deal are really part of the GOP establishment trying to control the group. "Republican Insiders Attempt Hostile Takeover of FreedomWorks," the memo is called. December 25: The Washington Post reveals that Armey was so mad about Kibbe's book that he staged an armed coup. Yes, armed as in guns. The day after Labor Day, Armey had "walked into the group’s Capitol Hill offices with his wife, Susan, and an aide holstering a handgun at his waist. The aim was to seize control of the group and expel Armey’s enemies: The gun-wielding assistant escorted FreedomWorks’ top two employees off the premises, while Armey suspended several others who broke down in sobs at the news." The Post reports the details of Armey's exit deal: Cancer Treatment Centers of America founder Richard J. Stephenson, a major FreedomWorks donor, will pay Armey $400,000 a year for 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 ^ ^ ^ Oh Gods it just gets better and better .. anyone who defends this whole clown show must have been to one too many rodeos .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The fact they "take responsibility" for the racist, homophobic, born again garbage they spew is nothing to be proud of IMO .. first thing I look for in a "Christian" is tolerance .. if that is absent then they are cheating on Jesus .. true story .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 As a student of theology and history, being a Christian and being tolerant is an oxymoron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrels.Gone.Wild Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Dear Glenn Beck, Please Don’t Call Yourself A ‘Libertarian’ Dear Mr. Beck: Congratulations on your slow move towards libertarianism. We are glad for your newfound support for legal marijuana, gay marriage, and your backing down from Bush-era hawkishness. But many of us libertarians prefer to say “thanks but no thanks” to your attempt to become the “libertarian” leader of a so-called “global news network.” As I’ve written before, you make it really hard for people who believe in limited government to be taken seriously. In the past, you’ve only given the media more reason to dismiss a largely intellectual movement as being just a bunch of tinfoil hat-wearing, overly aggressive crazy people. You’re free to call yourself whatever you want. But that doesn’t mean we should accept you. While we agree with you on some of the big picture — government spends way too much money it doesn’t have, and is far too intrusive into our daily lives — many of us dislike your rhetoric and your chalkboard-and-puppets conspiracy version of history. Look, we libertarians try to operate as a big tent. And I’m happy when non-libertarians like yourself aspire and draw towards it. The Atlantic‘s Jeffrey Goldberg recently pondered whether he is a libertarian, and that’s a welcome step forward for the movement. But when you or (the far, far worse)Alex Jones label yourselves “libertarian,” it is most certainly not a progression for us who already feel marginalized by the political process and much of the media. Here’s just one example of how you take any semblance of a potentially rational discussion and elevate it to cuckoo land: In the trailer for your new “libertarian” news network, you tease newsmagazine specials on topics that supposedly matter to liberty-minded folk, like some evil United Nations plot to disarm Americans. Do libertarians believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms? Yes. Do we generally oppose restrictive gun control? Absolutely. But do we think the federal government is in a cahoots with the U.N. to take away all of our guns? Uhhhh, no. That’s not “libertarian,” that’s fear-mongering with a naked appeal to the large portion of your viewers who already buy into thedoomsday survivalist shtick available in your web store. Sure, some of your more ardent fans will back you up on your self-labeled “libertarianism,” but I challenge you to walk down the halls of Reason magazine and not have them snicker at your bizarro connect-the-dots version of history; or speak before 1,200+ college students at the annual Students for Liberty conference and not be booed or laughed off the stage when you lament the downfall of Western civilization at the hands of pro-gay shows like Glee; or submit an article to the Rothbardian types at LewRockwell.com and not have them pick apart every hysterical myth contained within. Now, of course, you may say we sound like the cool kids at the lunch table telling the weird kid that he can’t sit with us. But this isn’t the school cafeteria; this is a battle of ideas. And we are currently losing it because of people like you who have helped give limited government types a bad name.Rush Limbaugh makes conservatives look bad on a regular basis; and you assumedly want to be the libertarian version of that? No thanks. Maybe you are, as you say, a “growing” libertarian — i.e., you’re “evolving,” coincidentally, like the president you dislike so much — but that doesn’t erase the years you’ve spent as a so-called “liberty lover” while almost never criticizing George W. Bush when he was in power. (Believe me. I know that because, in my previous career, it took days to find a single anti-GOP soundbite for a TV special on your fledgling career.) You’ve built a reputation as yet another right-wing firebrand who absolutely detests President Obamaand will link anything and everything to his kneeling nightly before a Karl Marx statuette. It’s not the kind of baggage to carry around when dealing with libertarians who pride themselves on equal-opportunity skepticism of partisans on both sides who suffer from “President From The Other PartyDerangement Syndrome.” BuzzFeed writes that your relaunch as “libertarian” is an attempt to grab the eyeballs of the young people who are disgusted by the two parties and by the “shouting heads” on cable news. If so, I’m not sure you’ll be able to court them. “If we’re Glenn Beck’s target audience, he’s missed his mark by a mile,” Daniel Bier told me this morning. He runs a prominent blog called The Skeptical Libertarian, which has a readership largely made up of libertarian students and professionals. During the GOP primaries, most young libertarians rolled their eyes but had their preferred candidates who at least nodded in the direction of libertarianism. That included a bit of Jon Huntsman, a whole lot of Gary Johnson, and an even greater amount of Ron Paul. But were you out there supporting any of these guys while lamenting the big-government-conservative GOP field? No. Michelle Bachmann at first, and then… Rick Santorum, arguably the most anti-libertarian GOP candidate since Pat Buchanan. And, indeed, young liberty types find the Republican Party and Fox’s treatment of the news to be distasteful but, given that, do you really think that they will then turn to Glenn Beck, the man who has said things like this… or this? Hopefully someday you can drop the histrionics and the looseness with facts, and then maybe we can all sing “Kumbaya” together under a libertarian tent. But, in the meantime, I do wish you the best of luck. And since it’s part of my job, I will be watching. Sincerely, Andrew Kirell http://www.mediaite....-a-libertarian/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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key2thecup Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Anyone who supports Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum has no business calling themselves a libertarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeone Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 Glenn Beck announces plans for Independence, USA By Mike Krumboltz, Yahoo! News | The Lookout – 2 hrs 45 mins ago http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/glenn-beck-announces-plan-independence-usa-233854956.html Right-wing rabble-rouser Glenn Beck recently announced that he wanted to "go Galt" and create a self-sustaining community, inspired by the philosophy of Ayn Rand's character John Galt from "Atlas Shrugged." The community will be known as Independence, USA. If and when it is completed, Independence will produce its own food and TV and film content. There will be homes, baseball fields and a theme park. Think: Small Town, USA, but with a Beckish vibe. Beck announced his plans on "The Glenn Beck Program." The main entrance to the proposed community will be based on Ellis Island because, in Beck's words, that's how most Americans came to the country. There will also be a marketplace, but don't confuse it with your local mall. "There's not going to be a Gap here. There's no Ann Taylor. You want an Ann Taylor, go someplace else," Beck said in a video announcement. The marketplace, Beck says, will be a place for people to create their own businesses and learn from others. Other areas of Independence: The ranch (that's where residents will grow food and teach people how to grow crops), the media center (where Beck will film his show and where other entertainers will create movies, TV shows and documentaries), an Alamo-style mission for people to "gather and help others," a research and development laboratory and much more. The main point, Beck says, is education. "Before you send your kids to college," Beck said in his pitch video, "you come to us. And you spend a week with us. We're gonna tell them exactly, we will show them the truth, we will tell them what they're going to try to do, and we will deprogram them every summer, if you care." What's Beck's utopia gonna cost? Around $2 billion. Beck says he's willing to take steps to make his vision happen "one piece at a time." Just don't expect to find a Gap. You can watch Beck's pitch here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Glen Beck and Donald Trump .. hucksters to the very core .. almost laughable if it was not "scary" .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 This man is a freeking prophet .. all hail Glenn "Mohammed" Beck, Seer to the Seekers of Truth and Freedom .. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/14/glenn-beck-predicts-how-the-obama-admin-will-go-about-gun-control-make-no-mistake-a-fight-is-coming/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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