PrimeMinisterBure Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Because just about every other SC contender has a better second line center(not counting Kesler) than the Canucks. And most of them are way better. Canucks might be able to manage if 1. Kesler isn't out to long 2. He can stay healthy 3. Plays at the top of his game, something he has rarely done, in the playoffs then maybe the Canucks can win the cup. But honestly what are the chances all that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Gillis second BIGGEST mistake - trading away Cody Hodgson. The first BIG mistake was of course signing Luongo to that fat contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeMinisterBure Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Although I'm long over the Hodgson trade, just imagine our depth if we managed to trade Luongo for Couturier Henrik Kesler Hodgson Couturier Lapierre Malhotra Schroeder Ebbett That depth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I think our centre depth will be perfect if Schroeder is able to come in and prove he belongs and can produce in the NHL. That way, we'll have our top 1-2 punch at centre of Sedin-Kesler, a young talented 3rd line centre who can anchor the 2nd line when necessary in Schroeder, and two gritty, defensive centres who are great on the PK on the 4th line in Malhotra and Lapierre. Sedin Kesler Schroeder Lapierre Malhotra ^ That's very similar to Boston's centre core of Krejci, Bergeron, Seguin, Kelly and Campbell, except that Sedin is much better than Krejci. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 What about if henrick gets injured and kes is still out. Who is gonna fill in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Nowhere in my post did I say Schroeder and Seguin are equal. I just did a breakdown of each team's centre depth charts. If you want to get nitpicky and compare each player: Sedin >> Krejci Kesler > Bergeron Schroeder << Seguin Malhotra = Kelly Lapierre = Campbell Oh, I forgot.... ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Everybody doesn't . Just management and those fans with half a brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 No. We need a center who can perform at Rich Peverley's level at the very least that can come in when either Henrik or Kesler is injured. Now, that could have been Cody Hodgson, but that ship has sailed. Either Jordan Schroeder is ready, or we need to acquire one through trade. That's why Tyler Bozak's name's getting thrown out there - because we need a guy like him. The only way we have no problem at center is if Jordan Schroeder can step in right away and put up numbers like 42 in 57. Otherwise, we need to get someone like that. As it stands, we have no depth at the top 6 center position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Were not going to get someone who can preform at Rich Pevelery's level, that's somewhere inbetween Burrows or Higgins value, too much to pay for us right now. and I once again can't see how people can think Hodgson would have been here past the offseason even if we didn't trade him at the deadline. As it stands we might have depth at the top 6 center position, Schroeder might be ready, and if Higgins can transition to the center ice spot well then those are potentially 2 good options. Which add to our "top 6 center depth". It's really all dependent on that, if those two can play their than we have some guys, if not we need to acquire someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 You can never have too much depth at center and i'm sure if the season starts and they haven't found a center to fill in for Kesler, the results will speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Trade a goaltender, and we could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 blah blah blah wait till after training camp at least to see what we have down the middle. We are trying something new with Kes out and everyone is jumping the gun. We have a bunch of guys who can play center, not at the level of kesler, but that's where team depth comes in.. everyone else on the team has to step up there games to flll the void, it's not like were just gonna throw a guy into a position an expect him to perform at the level of or out perform Kesler is it? I can't tell from these comments. Fact is Kes is out, that doesn't mean our team needs to find kesler2.0 asap. we need someone who can play mistake free hockey for the mot part and get some points on the board, but we can't expect him to do it all himself can we? team effort gets us where we wanna be. Good thing the Canucks know that, even if everyone on CDC doesn't seem to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 Aside from Henrik, and Kesler (injured), all the centers are only good for the 3rd and 4th line. We definitely need a good 2nd line C while Kes is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Schroeder might be ready for what? Second line duties on the President's Trophy winners? A raw rookie with zero games of NHL experience? I see.Well,at least the naked truth is coming ever closer than twenty pages of nonsense and hype from fan boys. Take away Higgins and you have to fill his spot and he is not going to be a 2c,anyways. Kesler is not showing signs he is coming back any time soon and nobody knows how effective he will be or how long it will take him to round into shape even if or when he comes back. I expect Luongo to be traded for a prime time center ice man along with a right handed d man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I'm willing to try out Schroeder and assess him and the other options before jumping the gun. I hope Schroeder can surprise and be ready. It just irks me to see that some people have a grand delusion that we have no problem right now with our depth at center by comparing to teams like Boston who are one of the deepest in the NHL. We have a solid group of 4 centers, yes. But we do not have any depth at the top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James van Riemsdyk Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I think everyone thinks we need a new center because everyone is very anxious without Kesler around, people are afraid of how we'll perform without Kesler. After all Kesler is very talented and skilled, he could be a top line Center on many other teams. Without him, people are worried our scoring and our defense will falter. That is why I think everyone wants to get another center. The thing is when Kesler is back where does that Center go, if he plays wing where does the winger go and this chain leads all the way down to the fourth line. What are we going to do with Malhotra, Lapiere, Weise, Kassian, Ebbett, Schroeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 Oh yeah and give me Lapierre at 2C before Bozak any day, even permanently, Bozak is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 In my opinion, Rich Peverley isn't anything special. He benefitted from the Bruins' white hot start last season when everyone was putting up points. It's kind of like how Raymond scored 25 goals and 53 points a few seasons ago, yet everyone calls him crap now. Sometimes a team is just white hot and everyone, even the depth guys, are piling up the points. I don't really see the Bruins' bottom 6 centre depth as any different than that of the Canucks. Peverley, Kelly and Campbell pretty much = Higgins, Malhotra and Lapierre (I compare Higgins to Peverley because they're both wingers on their team that can fill in at centre in a pinch). The X-Factor for Boston is Seguin and no, the Canucks don't have anyone close but the Canucks' own X-Factor is Jordan Schroeder. How good can he be? He won't be nearly as good as Seguin, obviously, but can he contribute around 40 points and fill in admirably for Kesler? Anyway, this isn't even about comparing Vancouver's centre depth to Boston's. I just chose Boston's centre depth chart to compare to Vancouver's depth chart and didn't intend to compare the abilities of each player individually. It just seems like they have the same kind of breakdown at centre: a skilled, playmaking top line centre (Krejci/Sedin), a Selke-calibre two-way 2nd line centre (Bergeron/Kesler), a veteran shutdown centre on the 3rd line (Kelly/Malhotra) and an above average, gritty 4th line centre with some untapped offensive ability (Campbell/Lapierre). Just carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Luongo for Bozak + and we got sick depth at centre without Kes: Hank Bozak Lapierre Manny With Kesler: Henrik Kesler Bozak Lappy Manny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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