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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:47 AM

Doug MacLean on Hockeycentral today said he got a call from Dave Nonis back when Nonis took over the GM role with the Canucks and Dave offered Schneider straight up for Brule.

How different would our organization look of that had happened eh?
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:49 AM

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thats why nonis is no longer our gm
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:50 AM

Scary thought.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:52 AM

Hence why the Leafs are no better off with him as GM.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:54 AM

Hence why the Leafs are no better off with him as GM.


hope he can pull off a horrible trade that brings us tons of assets for the nucks
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:54 AM

I don't know who is dumber Nonis for making the call or Maclean for saying no
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:55 AM

thats why nonis is no longer our gm


And why MacLean isn't a GM at all.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:01 PM

Doug MacLean on Hockeycentral today said he got a call from Dave Nonis back when Nonis took over the GM role with the Canucks and Dave offered Schneider straight up for Brule.

How different would our organization look of that had happened eh?

Dodged a bullet on that one. However, with that said Brule may have developed differently in Vancouver's system. In many ways Brule is a victim of being the wrong type of player in the wrong organization. I tought Edmonton might be the right place but there was just too much youth there for a reclamation project like himself.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:03 PM

And why MacLean isn't a GM at all.


He could be had that trade went through
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:06 PM

Hindsight guys, Brule was supposed to be huge and may very well have been a star if he hadn't been developed by Columbus. At the time that it would have happened you all would have been peeing yourselves with excitement.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:08 PM

It should also be noted, Schneider would not have had all this time for development in Manitoba and back-up.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

Brule probably would of developed better in Vancouver versus Columbus, the same could not be said for Schneider
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:12 PM

Dave Nonis lowballed Doug McLean. The Canucks would have run away with this trade.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:12 PM

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if this was at all around the time when we had gotten luongo, this deal makes total sense.

1. you are about to trade/have traded for an elite goaltender in roberto who will be the face of the franchise.
2. you have a spare rather blue chip goalie in schneider in the minors
3. you need forwards - please remember, at the time Brule was highly sought after/top prospect that was supposed to become a superstar

see: http://forecaster.th...?CBJ&DraftID=10

heinsight is 20/20. cbj rushed his development (see turris in phx).

edit: i cant believe the ignorance by some on this board is unbelievable. please do research or go back to 2005 when brule was drafted. there was even talk of him going 2nd overall. I also remember a lot of people wanting Nonis to trade down for Brule.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:16 PM

Doug MacLean on Hockeycentral today said he got a call from Dave Nonis back when Nonis took over the GM role with the Canucks and Dave offered Schneider straight up for Brule.

How different would our organization look of that had happened eh?

Doug said Dave didn't actually offer it. They were just talking, so no official offer was made.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:16 PM

I didn't see the show, did MacLean say at all why he passed up on the deal?
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:19 PM

I didn't see the show, did MacLean say at all why he passed up on the deal?

I don't think we need MacLean to tell us why? :huh:

It was a clear lowball from Nonis. Brule was one of the top-rated prospects at the time and Schneider was a guy who played high school hockey in his draft year.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:26 PM

I don't think we need MacLean to tell us why? :huh:

It was a clear lowball from Nonis. Brule was one of the top-rated prospects at the time and Schneider was a guy who played high school hockey in his draft year.


Fair enough, but what was his point for bringing it up then? Just to show a deal that looked lopsided one way which in hindsight looks like it would have been lopsided the other way? Or to demonstrate that he had GM to GM dealings with Nonis back in the day?
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:29 PM

Wow what a difference.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:48 PM

Is that sweet offer still on the table? We could make that trade and maybe convice Fabian Brunnstrom to sign with us = Cup!
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:13 PM

We had Luongo, this offer isn't crazy at all. Schneids only starting really kicking ass in the NHL last season.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:15 PM

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Hindsight. For those calling out Nonis, you guys are idiots. Our core is pretty much comprised of Draft picks or signings he made to keep the team together, and of course the Luongo trade.

Schneider was looking like a bust in his first few years, and not only that, people in Vancouver LOVED Gilbert Brule and was regarded as one of the top junior players.

Brule was rushed into the NHL too quickly, and unfortunately suffered an injury right off the bat which hindered his development.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:29 PM

Brule probably would of developed better in Vancouver versus Columbus, the same could not be said for Schneider

This. Schneider would have been rushed in CBJ with them needing a goalie and he probably wouldn't be where he is today development wise. We would have been able to let Brule sit at least one more year to develop and work on adapting his game to be ready for NHL'ers. He couldn't get away with his tenacious style, throwing his body around, against players older and larger than him, which really hindered him in the NHL.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:32 PM

People are saying this would have been terrible, but fail to recognize WHY Schneider turned out the way he did and Brule the way he did.

Doug MacLean ruined Brule's career by throwing him to the wolves as an 18 year old. While Schneider developed properly in the minors for 5 years and then as a backup under Luongo for 2 years.

If Schneider ended up in CBJ it's likely that Schneider would have been a bust because he would have been rushed and Brule a star because he would have been developed properly like Kesler, Burrow, Edler, Schneider etc etc...;.;
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:18 PM

Hindsight. For those calling out Nonis, you guys are idiots. Our core is pretty much comprised of Draft picks or signings he made to keep the team together, and of course the Luongo trade.

Schneider was looking like a bust in his first few years, and not only that, people in Vancouver LOVED Gilbert Brule and was regarded as one of the top junior players.

Brule was rushed into the NHL too quickly, and unfortunately suffered an injury right off the bat which hindered his development.


Excellent post. Dave Nonis saved this franchise - and lost his job - by not buckling under the pressure of the Aquilini's to acquire Brad Richards and make a run for the playoffs in 2007-08. That would've reportedly cost us Kesler, Edler, and Schneider.

Also correcr about Brule/Schneider - amazing what the role of luck plays in sports/life. Hard to think that Columbus is just so woeful at choosing their players; there's gotta be something inherent in that system that just stunts development. Brule was a high probability pick. Filatov's talent is incredible - another guy that was thought-of as high probability. Derick Brassard. Steve Mason. All of these disappointing young players makes me think that there's a systemic issue.

Brule's career trajectory probably would be far different today had he been drafted by the Canucks.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:23 PM

Doug MacLean ruined Brule's career by throwing him to the wolves as an 18 year old. While Schneider developed properly in the minors for 5 years and then as a backup under Luongo for 2 years.


Easy, guy. He's 26 years old. Coming off a respectable 33-game showing in Phoenix (14 points, +7) and two years removed from scoring 17 goals and 37 points in 65 games as an Oiler.

IMO, he's still an NHL player with a decent amount of upside potential. Wonder where he'll end up.

Edited by King of the ES, 11 January 2013 - 02:24 PM.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:25 PM

that woulda sucked lol... understandable move though, we had luongo in his prime. would have made sense to flip the kid for a young forward prospect
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:47 PM

Easy, guy. He's 26 years old. Coming off a respectable 33-game showing in Phoenix (14 points, +7) and two years removed from scoring 17 goals and 37 points in 65 games as an Oiler.

IMO, he's still an NHL player with a decent amount of upside potential. Wonder where he'll end up.


Sure those are respectable numbers, but not exactly what you're expecting from a 6th overall pick
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:55 PM

Hindsight.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:07 PM

hope he can pull off a horrible trade that brings us tons of assets for the nucks


The Luongo trade was very good for us. He is not that stupid.
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