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#1 Z.Kassian9

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:55 AM

So I was watching Hockey Central at Noon on sportsnet, and according to Doug Maclean, when Dave Nonis was GM of the Vancouver Canucks, Dave LOVED Brule because of his play with the Vancouver Giants, and Nonis gave a call to Maclean if he would consider a trade for Brule that involved Schneider.

This was back when Schneider was playing for Boston College and Brule was just drafted. Dave Nonis was GM and Maclean was GM of Columbus. BUT remember Brule was really considered to be a top pick back then! He was called the "Crosby of the west" but obviously thats not the way it turned out.

Good thing this trade didn't happen but it was considered ACCORDING to Doug Maclean.

If I could put a source on here I would but I heard it on TV.

Anyways... Your thoughts?
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:56 AM

Toxic was faster

http://forum.canucks...-gilbert-brule/
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:02 PM

hahahaha damn im slow
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:22 PM

Nonis is a genius!
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:28 PM

Nonis also drafted Patrick white and Taylor Ellington.

He traded draft picks for Eric Weinrich and Keith Carney, as well as that goalie who played a single game as a Canuck Naronen was his name I think.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:45 PM

Nonis also drafted Patrick white and Taylor Ellington.

He traded draft picks for Eric Weinrich and Keith Carney, as well as that goalie who played a single game as a Canuck Naronen was his name I think.

What are you talking about? That is an amazing track record. Its not like his big FA signing were Byron Ritchie and Brad Isbister or anything... oh wait a minute.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:47 PM

I'm going to enjoy Nonis wrecking Toronto...
Rumour Nobis has called the agents for Taylor Pyatt and Tommy Santala

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:49 PM

Dare I say it... Jan Bulis...
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:52 PM

My goodness....

Imagine if we traded Schroeder and he became another Marty St Louis, not that that will ever happen though, St louis tore up the AHL.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:20 PM

What are you talking about? That is an amazing track record. Its not like his big FA signing were Byron Ritchie and Brad Isbister or anything... oh wait a minute.


The Canucks were against the cap after Nonis took over from Burke, and he had to fill the holes via free agency. People on here were pretty excited to have Ritchie and Isbister. Obviously its easy to say in hindsight that Nonis is a fool, but he made key moves that almost helped bring us a cup.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:27 PM

Did anyone hear the Oilers traded Gretzky to the Kings
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:38 PM

So what?
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

Did anyone hear the Oilers traded Gretzky to the Kings


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:43 PM

Brule could have been the next Crosby if developed properly
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:34 PM

we also almost had brad richards.... there was a deal for schnieder and edler for Richards... way back when but nonis wouldn't pull the trigger....
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:35 PM

So which one of those GM's was dumber?
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:52 PM

Brule would've been good if he was developed better and wasn't addicted to nose candy.

Nonis also signed Marc Chouinard..
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

The Canucks were against the cap after Nonis took over from Burke, and he had to fill the holes via free agency. People on here were pretty excited to have Ritchie and Isbister. Obviously its easy to say in hindsight that Nonis is a fool, but he made key moves that almost helped bring us a cup.


Losing in the second round in 5 games is not "almost" winning a cup...

And the one win was a fluke shot by Cowan in OT...

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 05:50 PM

Brule could've become a different player if developed properly with the Canucks organization. Spending his development with the BlueJackets and Oilers didn't help
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:24 PM

things could have turned out differently. Schneider could have become a bust playing for CBJ and Brule develops into a top 6 forward on the canucks
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:27 PM

IF we got Brule way back then, he'd be better then Kesler right now.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:28 PM

Losing in the second round in 5 games is not "almost" winning a cup...

And the one win was a fluke shot by Cowan in OT...


I think you misunderstood my post.

He kept the key pieces that almost brought us a cup in 2011. If it weren't for Nonis, Kesler would be a Flyer or with some other organization right now. People wanted Nonis' head for matching the RFA-offer because many thought Kesler was a bust. Not only that, upper-level management kept pushing Nonis to trade Kesler and Edler for Richards, yet he held back (similar to Burke) which is what cost him his job.

Those moves, along with the Luongo trade, signing of Burrows, and more built the core of this team that nearly won the cup.
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:32 AM

Nonis also drafted Patrick white and Taylor Ellington.

He traded draft picks for Eric Weinrich and Keith Carney, as well as that goalie who played a single game as a Canuck Naronen was his name I think.

Nonis Also drafted Schneider ,Edler,Bourdon,Raymond and Grabner
And stole Luongo from Florida ...What has Gillis done ?
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:36 AM

This isn't saying much. I remember when Schneider was just coming up, people were begging to trade Schneider for whatever they could because Schneider was spending too much time developing and being unproven. Several of guys were willing to deal him for late round draft picks.

Back then, It would actually made a lot of sense because Luongo was just acquired, and we expected him to be a Canuck for the rest of his career. While Naslund and Bertuzzi, basically the Canucks Offense were heading out of town.

If Schneider had never come up, I don't think fans would mind keeping Luongo.

Edited by Rey, 12 January 2013 - 02:44 AM.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:37 PM

I'm going to enjoy Nonis wrecking Toronto...
Rumour Nobis has called the agents for Taylor Pyatt and Tommy Santala

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Unfortunately, Dave had to rely on his Scouts to feed him the information
He didnt have enough time to see how bad his picks were turning out to evaluate his scouting team
Too much accolades and blame is placed on a GM, when spending all the time evaluating talent is not his job,or has the time to do it.
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:24 AM

Nonis Also drafted Schneider ,Edler,Bourdon,Raymond and Grabner
And stole Luongo from Florida ...What has Gillis done ?


He has built and developed this team around central ideals while keeping a core together with hometown discounts, rather than letting them walk away for higher salaries on the FA market. Sedins

He has bolstered the team with FA signings (at reasonable prices) to address team needs. Think Hamhuis, Ehrhoff, Garrison, etc.

Signed players like Higgins, Lapierre, Wellwood whos careers were seemingly in free fall and put them in a system where they have flourished.

Contributed majorly to the depth of the organization, particularly on defense.

Allocated money to be put into off ice programs like sleep therapy, sports psychologists, etc in order to try and make the players more focused, rested between games.

Taken this team from a playoff contender to a cup contender, and brought an era of stability to the franchise.

Simply put, Gillis is one of the most successful GMs we have ever had. However, I will admit his one weakness is the draft.

I just cannot believe anyone would think Nonis was a better GM for the Canucks than Gillis. Nonis was awful - his idea of depth players were Byron Ritchie, Tommi Santala and Brad Isbister...

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:53 AM

He has built and developed this team around central ideals while keeping a core together with hometown discounts, rather than letting them walk away for higher salaries on the FA market. Sedins

He has bolstered the team with FA signings (at reasonable prices) to address team needs. Think Hamhuis, Ehrhoff, Garrison, etc.

Signed players like Higgins, Lapierre, Wellwood whos careers were seemingly in free fall and put them in a system where they have flourished.

Contributed majorly to the depth of the organization, particularly on defense.

Allocated money to be put into off ice programs like sleep therapy, sports psychologists, etc in order to try and make the players more focused, rested between games.

Taken this team from a playoff contender to a cup contender, and brought an era of stability to the franchise.

Simply put, Gillis is one of the most successful GMs we have ever had. However, I will admit his one weakness is the draft.

I just cannot believe anyone would think Nonis was a better GM for the Canucks than Gillis. Nonis was awful - his idea of depth players were Byron Ritchie, Tommi Santala and Brad Isbister...


The Sedins weren't superstars players in Nonis' era, and the wce was in free fall back then. There were no such thing as getting depth players to help out the team when you don't even know who your cores are.

Nonis helped the team to create the core of what we have today by:

-Choosing to keep the Sedins instead of trading for others like so many CDC and the so call fans had suggested. It wasn't that long ago when fans call them the sisters.

- giving burrows a chance

- getting av to the team

- elder was drafted by him

- getting luongo with a Farley lopsided deal


People like to bash nonis for not good at getting depth players, yet they fail to notice that the canucks didn't have the luxury of focusing on depth when your whole team is falling apart. Nonis helped to stabilize the team with a lot of cap room for gillis to play with


No one is saying he's better than gillis, we just want people like you to reconiglize of what nonis had done.



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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:23 AM

Ewwwwww
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 10:45 AM

Our current core is pretty much from the Burke/Nonis era. Brule got rushed into the NHL way too early by CBJ.
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