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#1 DownUndaCanuck

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:43 PM

Now before anyone rants on me for being a "Luongo Lover" or "Hodgson Fanboy" hear me out and try to think of this objectively as possible.

Last season we had 3 very viable centers - Henrik, Kesler and Hodgson. Henrik, the veteran, is one of the league's best forwards and our captain and has proven himself consistently over the last odd decade. Kesler, not quite as old as Henrik but as big a leader and part of this team as he. Then there's Hodgson, the high draft pick and superstar in the making. He had done it all up to this point - performed exceptionally at big tournaments, put up stellar numbers in junior leagues and was basically on-par with Eberle in terms of development. Then this kid scores at a 20 goal, 40 point pace in his first season with the Canucks to prove himself. However, we trade Hodgson and keep Henrik and Kesler.

Now my question is, why are we trading Luongo but keeping Schneider? These goalies are in a very similar if not exact same predicament. We had Luongo (our former captain), one of the best goalies in the world and a veteran, and then Schneider - a guy who like Hodgson had played well in minor leagues. Schneider then plays in the NHL in limited game time and produces great numbers, similar to how Hodgson did. Nothing spectacular, he only played around 30 games, but his NHL success in limited time was very comparable to Hodgson's success in limited minutes.

My response to "oh but Luongo crapped the bed in the playoffs and looked shaky all year" is simple - how great was Kesler when it mattered most? 1 goal in his final 18 games of the season. That is on most other teams grounds for a swap, just brutal and a big reason we didn't beat Los Angeles. Kesler had a terrible season last year, Hodgson had a great one yet we didn't trade Kesler and keep Hodgson in the #2 center spot. Why not? Because Kesler won a Selke? Because Kesler had 2 good 70-point seasons? Hodgson was more than capable of playing a #2 center spot role and would eventually take our #1 spot without a doubt.

Now look back at Luongo. Luongo was also a superstar goalie and had a couple of stellar seasons. Yet we want to trade him, why? If you want to keep Henrik and Kesler over Hodgson, you should want to have Luongo in net over Schneider. It is an identical situation yet everyone's minds have been warped by the media and how our players have been portrayed - Kesler the superhero who plays with emotion and scores in big games and Luongo as the fragile goalie whose burned out. On the contrary, Kesler is the one coming off 3 major surgeries (the definition of fragile and burned out if you ask me) and Luongo is the one who single-handedly took this franchise to Game 7 and played big in the Gold Medal Game.

So simply, with all of that in mind, why Schneider over Luongo when we stuck with Kesler and Henrik over Hodgson?
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:55 PM

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:55 PM

8 years younger, stronger mentally, never faultered yet. Luongos not the same superstar goalie he was when he was first here, and he is not going to get any younger or better, unlike Schneider.

Lu hasn't been the same since he injured his groin.

Schneids also played better in the playoffs last year, so he proved himself there imo, this is only a 48 game season, so it's the perfect situation for Schneider.

If Hodgson was half a step faster, I think we probably would of kept him, but we don't have the time to let Hodgson figure out how to play using his strengths.

Schneiders also never complained about being stuck behind Luongo for years.

Keslers been injured and can now finally heal up hopefully.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:02 PM

8 years younger, stronger mentally, never faultered yet. Luongos not the same superstar goalie he was when he was first here, and he is not going to get any younger or better, unlike Schneider.

Lu hasn't been the same since he injured his groin.

Schneids also played better in the playoffs last year, so he proved himself there imo, this is only a 48 game season, so it's the perfect situation for Schneider.

If Hodgson was half a step faster, I think we probably would of kept him, but we don't have the time to let Hodgson figure out how to play using his strengths.

Schneiders also never complained about being stuck behind Luongo for years.

Keslers been injured and can now finally heal up hopefully.


The exact same can be said for Kesler.

Hodgson was younger than Kesler, who's not the same Selke-superstar he once was.
Kesler hasn't been the same since hip surgery let alone wrist and shoulder surgery.
MG had been working on our center situation for a long time leading up to the trade deadline, he said it himself. He could have easily decided to try and trade Kesler instead of Hodgson to keep him happy.
Yes Kesler's been injured but he's not going to heal up, if he can't return to form following hip surgery he's not going to return to form after two surgeries on the same arm. Luongo on the otherhand just tweaked a groin, much easier to recover from.

Edited by DownUndaCanuck, 11 January 2013 - 09:03 PM.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:03 PM

The real difference is that Schneider didn't get his agent or parents to whine to management about getting more ice time instead of waiting for his chance to shine.

Edited by Brad Marchand, 11 January 2013 - 09:04 PM.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:04 PM

Saying Hodgson is a superstar in the making is a bit much, if you assess his game from an objective point of view there are holes that might prevent him from being that, also he isn't on pace with eberle.

The difference is Schneider is also one of the best goalies in the world, he is probably just as good as Lu, if Hodgson had scored 60 points or 70 points or something then I am sure we would have kept him too, Hodgson didn't do as much before his trade, as Schneider has before this pending Lu trade.

Edit: It is also premature to say that Kesler isn't the same player, we don't know yet he was injured, we have to wait till he is healthy and see what he can do.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:08 PM

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:15 PM

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Now before anyone rants on me for being a "Luongo Lover" or "Hodgson Fanboy" hear me out and try to think of this objectively as possible.

Last season we had 3 very viable centers - Henrik, Kesler and Hodgson. Henrik, the veteran, is one of the league's best forwards and our captain and has proven himself consistently over the last odd decade. Kesler, not quite as old as Henrik but as big a leader and part of this team as he. Then there's Hodgson, the high draft pick and superstar in the making. He had done it all up to this point - performed exceptionally at big tournaments, put up stellar numbers in junior leagues and was basically on-par with Eberle in terms of development. Then this kid scores at a 20 goal, 40 point pace in his first season with the Canucks to prove himself. However, we trade Hodgson and keep Henrik and Kesler.

Now my question is, why are we trading Luongo but keeping Schneider? These goalies are in a very similar if not exact same predicament. We had Luongo (our former captain), one of the best goalies in the world and a veteran, and then Schneider - a guy who like Hodgson had played well in minor leagues. Schneider then plays in the NHL in limited game time and produces great numbers, similar to how Hodgson did. Nothing spectacular, he only played around 30 games, but his NHL success in limited time was very comparable to Hodgson's success in limited minutes.

My response to "oh but Luongo crapped the bed in the playoffs and looked shaky all year" is simple - how great was Kesler when it mattered most? 1 goal in his final 18 games of the season. That is on most other teams grounds for a swap, just brutal and a big reason we didn't beat Los Angeles. Kesler had a terrible season last year, Hodgson had a great one yet we didn't trade Kesler and keep Hodgson in the #2 center spot. Why not? Because Kesler won a Selke? Because Kesler had 2 good 70-point seasons? Hodgson was more than capable of playing a #2 center spot role and would eventually take our #1 spot without a doubt.

Now look back at Luongo. Luongo was also a superstar goalie and had a couple of stellar seasons. Yet we want to trade him, why? If you want to keep Henrik and Kesler over Hodgson, you should want to have Luongo in net over Schneider. It is an identical situation yet everyone's minds have been warped by the media and how our players have been portrayed - Kesler the superhero who plays with emotion and scores in big games and Luongo as the fragile goalie whose burned out. On the contrary, Kesler is the one coming off 3 major surgeries (the definition of fragile and burned out if you ask me) and Luongo is the one who single-handedly took this franchise to Game 7 and played big in the Gold Medal Game.

So simply, with all of that in mind, why Schneider over Luongo when we stuck with Kesler and Henrik over Hodgson?


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:22 PM

Firstly, goalies and centers play different roles. it's like comparing apples an oranges.

Secondly, how a player preforms after an injury is all based on the player. you can't say that one player will heal up and the other won't.

Thirdly, single handedly took us to game 7? really? so the rest of the team can retire and Luo will get us to game 7.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:25 PM

The exact same can be said for Kesler.

Hodgson was younger than Kesler, who's not the same Selke-superstar he once was.
Kesler hasn't been the same since hip surgery let alone wrist and shoulder surgery.
MG had been working on our center situation for a long time leading up to the trade deadline, he said it himself. He could have easily decided to try and trade Kesler instead of Hodgson to keep him happy.
Yes Kesler's been injured but he's not going to heal up, if he can't return to form following hip surgery he's not going to return to form after two surgeries on the same arm. Luongo on the otherhand just tweaked a groin, much easier to recover from.

There is no comparison between a player and a goaltender. You are comparing apples and oranges. Schneider has , at this point in time, more upside than Lou. He is far better technically, better positionally, adjusts quicker and much better lateral movement. If Lou were to revert back to how Melanson had him playing, it would be a more difficult decision but last year he returned to the Allaire camp. He is now, not the star goalie he was, and a groin never gets back to normal.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:25 PM

Kesler was still injured last year genius
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:28 PM

The exact same can be said for Kesler.

Hodgson was younger than Kesler, who's not the same Selke-superstar he once was.
Kesler hasn't been the same since hip surgery let alone wrist and shoulder surgery.
MG had been working on our center situation for a long time leading up to the trade deadline, he said it himself. He could have easily decided to try and trade Kesler instead of Hodgson to keep him happy.
Yes Kesler's been injured but he's not going to heal up, if he can't return to form following hip surgery he's not going to return to form after two surgeries on the same arm. Luongo on the otherhand just tweaked a groin, much easier to recover from.

At this point, there is no Kestler replacement in the Canuck system whereas Schneider is here and ready to go.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:28 PM

Saying Hodgson is a superstar in the making is a bit much, if you assess his game from an objective point of view there are holes that might prevent him from being that, also he isn't on pace with eberle.

The difference is Schneider is also one of the best goalies in the world, he is probably just as good as Lu, if Hodgson had scored 60 points or 70 points or something then I am sure we would have kept him too, Hodgson didn't do as much before his trade, as Schneider has before this pending Lu trade.

Edit: It is also premature to say that Kesler isn't the same player, we don't know yet he was injured, we have to wait till he is healthy and see what he can do.


Hodgson was and still is on pace to become a star in the league. Every player has "holes in their game", but just look at his body of work already. He won gold at the world juniors twice and was the best player there, outshining even Eberle over there. He tore up the OHL and still holds a bunch of Brampton franchise records. Then he plays at 0.5 points per game in the NHL at a 20 goal pace in his rookie season. Now in the AHL he's playing at over a point-per-game and probably would be scoring at the high pace Eberle is if he wasn't injured and had the 3 other best players in the league with him.

There is no way a rookie is going to score 60 or 70 points playing on a third line. Instead Hodgson was scoring at a 20 goal and 40 point pace which is miraculous for any 3rd liner in the league let alone a rookie. 60-70 points is unreachable, Kesler didn't even hit that with 20 minutes a game, whereas 20 goals from a 3rd liner is the benchmark and he reached that perfectly. He essentially played better than Kesler in his limited minutes all season long, as Kesler was obviously struggling that year following hip surgery, there's no denying that.

It is also definately not premature to say Kesler is a different player. He's already changed completely following his labrum surgery - broken down from the two-time 70 point player and 40 goal scorer to what we all saw last season. He was IMO the worst Canuck in the last 20 games of the season, injured or not, but all season long he hasn't ever looked to be the same dominant player he was in the 2011 playoffs. There's no questioning it - the physical game Kesler plays is taking its toll on him, he is not the same player he once was and you'd be blind not to see that. Now he's had two surgeries on the same arm so who knows how much more that will affect him, but the hip surgery has already done enough to slow him down.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:29 PM

There are similarities between the Hodgson trade and the pending Luogno trade. However, the comparison is not quite equal. I'm way more comfortable with Schneider as the starter than Hodgson as a 2nd line centre. Mainly because I believe that Schneider is more ready for his role than Hodgson. It would've been another season or two minimum before Hodgson could've possibly grabbed a top 2 centre roll here and it appeared he wasn't willing to wait that long, hence the trade. Late last year Schneider made it apparent he was ready for a number 1 roll, hence making Luongo expendable.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:31 PM

There is no comparison between a player and a goaltender. You are comparing apples and oranges. Schneider has , at this point in time, more upside than Lou. He is far better technically, better positionally, adjusts quicker and much better lateral movement. If Lou were to revert back to how Melanson had him playing, it would be a more difficult decision but last year he returned to the Allaire camp. He is now, not the star goalie he was, and a groin never gets back to normal.


I can say the same thing about Hodgson - Kesler. Hodgson had FAR more upside than Kesler did at the time of his trade, he was a young 22 year old kid who had won just about everything he could have, set OHL records and his development was on pace to become a future star. Kesler on the otherhand had just come off hip surgery, wasn't playing as well as he did in 2011 and had nowhere to go but down.

If a tweaked groin can never return to normal how do you think major labrum, wrist and shoulder surgery will affect Kesler's game? I'd take recovery over a groin injury over that combo and rehab any day.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:34 PM

There are similarities between the Hodgson trade and the pending Luogno trade. However, the comparison is not quite equal. I'm way more comfortable with Schneider as the starter than Hodgson as a 2nd line centre. Mainly because I believe that Schneider is more ready for his role than Hodgson. It would've been another season or two minimum before Hodgson could've possibly grabbed a top 2 centre roll here and it appeared he wasn't willing to wait that long, hence the trade. Late last year Schneider made it apparent he was ready for a number 1 roll, hence making Luongo expendable.


Finally a sensible response, thank-you. I do agree with you in part, but I feel that the transition from a 20 goal scorer (Hodgson) from the 3rd line center to 2nd line center where he may have to score another 10-20 points wouldn't be anywhere near as difficult as a goalie going from playing 30 games to 60. The pressure on the goaltender is far greater than it would be on Hodgson, who would have Henrik Sedin to back him up and relieve him of any pressure anyway, whereas Schneider has no one to turn to. The goaltending position is obviously far more important and difficult in hockey as well, which is why Schneider would need to be further on in his development than Hodgson would be to move up a spot.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:46 PM

Hodgson was and still is on pace to become a star in the league. Every player has "holes in their game", but just look at his body of work already. He won gold at the world juniors twice and was the best player there, outshining even Eberle over there. He tore up the OHL and still holds a bunch of Brampton franchise records. Then he plays at 0.5 points per game in the NHL at a 20 goal pace in his rookie season. Now in the AHL he's playing at over a point-per-game and probably would be scoring at the high pace Eberle is if he wasn't injured and had the 3 other best players in the league with him.

There is no way a rookie is going to score 60 or 70 points playing on a third line. Instead Hodgson was scoring at a 20 goal and 40 point pace which is miraculous for any 3rd liner in the league let alone a rookie. 60-70 points is unreachable, Kesler didn't even hit that with 20 minutes a game, whereas 20 goals from a 3rd liner is the benchmark and he reached that perfectly. He essentially played better than Kesler in his limited minutes all season long, as Kesler was obviously struggling that year following hip surgery, there's no denying that.

It is also definately not premature to say Kesler is a different player. He's already changed completely following his labrum surgery - broken down from the two-time 70 point player and 40 goal scorer to what we all saw last season. He was IMO the worst Canuck in the last 20 games of the season, injured or not, but all season long he hasn't ever looked to be the same dominant player he was in the 2011 playoffs. There's no questioning it - the physical game Kesler plays is taking its toll on him, he is not the same player he once was and you'd be blind not to see that. Now he's had two surgeries on the same arm so who knows how much more that will affect him, but the hip surgery has already done enough to slow him down.

Hodgson>short legs= big hole in NHL.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:53 PM

Offence wins games defense wins championships Cliche I know, but true look at the last couple stanley cup winners. All had very solid D and held teams to low scoring with D and goal tending. Kesler is better on D than hodgson and probably always will be, since we are not trying to win a Stanley cup in 6 years when hodgson is in his prime we traded him for someone who can fill a role and be good defensively. We do need to score goals to win games and stay healthy, but we can do that with a little luck. There's no magic combination that guarantees a cup. Van is simply putting themselves in the best possible position to succeed based upon their knowledge of the league and what it takes to win, which is extensive.

Say all you want about the trades that have happened and will happen. We all know that if the canucks trade Lu and win a cup this year we will call Gillis a genius and if they keep him and win a cup it's exactly the same. simply the GM is suppopsed to give the team the best chance they can to win fitting under the cap and using available players. We lacked some scoring in the playoffs, and we also lacked healthy bodies both of the past years. When we made our run we had a dominant offense when everyone was healthy and as soon as we get to the finals and there's suspensions and injuries we start not producing. Thanks to NHL officiating we were denied our first cup. Henrik said it best: "This is the only league in the world where the rules change as the season goes along" paraphrasing that. Hard for a GM to control the officials. Perfect example is how an 8 seed who had a terrible year can squeak into the playoffs and absolutely dominate teams that had their number almost every game during the regular season...

Tell me you don't think that is ridiculous??
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:25 PM

Shut the hell up


why don't you shut the hell up. Like who do you think you are tough guy
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:29 PM

I think after being off for a while, getting away from the game and all the talk about him in this town, Luongo is going to be a rejuiced and motivated player and will have some good years going foward. Like Lundqvist and Thomas did after being in the league for a while now and in their later years, Luongo will be steller wherever.

Luongo is a superstar goalie that when we got him, every team wanted him and he is still is considered a top elite goalie, he ain't no few season good washed up goalie.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:30 PM

Schneider actually wants to play for the Canucks....
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:09 PM

Hodgson>short legs= big hole in NHL.


This, he doesn't have the speed to keep up with other stars defensively, that's why we need Kesler, having Hodgson instead of Kesler makes us a WAY easier team to play against.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:11 PM

I can say the same thing about Hodgson - Kesler. Hodgson had FAR more upside than Kesler did at the time of his trade, he was a young 22 year old kid who had won just about everything he could have, set OHL records and his development was on pace to become a future star. Kesler on the otherhand had just come off hip surgery, wasn't playing as well as he did in 2011 and had nowhere to go but down.

If a tweaked groin can never return to normal how do you think major labrum, wrist and shoulder surgery will affect Kesler's game? I'd take recovery over a groin injury over that combo and rehab any day.

Whether Kesler ever returns to his previous form has to be a concern for the team. No arguement there !
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:12 PM

Coho is soft Kesler is rugged. If our top line of the Sedins are a couple of punching bags (very talented punching bags) it makes sence to want to counter weigh there softness with some sandpaper on the second pretty hard to win a cup with your top 2 lines unwilling to get into the dirty areas. Say all you want about Coho's skill set I agree he has alot of potential but he could never surpass Kesler to play a second line role on this team because he can't match Keslers willingness to play a hard game. That said for that matter wouldn't make a great playoff 3rd line center either nor would he be happy in that role playing checking minutes against other teams pf's was not his strength and teams would smell that and attack it. Giving him sheltered ice time in the playoffs is not an option. Hence the only option was to move him it made sense to me perfectly. That said Kassian may not have the polish of Coho and probably wont have as good a career imo but he is 100% a better fit for this team because there is no one standing in his place where he could peak thus has the option where Coho didn't to flourish on THIS team.

For this reason Coho and Luongo are not comparable. Schnider can offer something Luongo hasn't mental toughness. That said I still believe that Luongo is the better goalie however Schnider may be better for this team. The canucks seem to play with more confidence infront of him. just my opinion
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:12 PM

I think after being off for a while, getting away from the game and all the talk about him in this town, Luongo is going to be a rejuiced and motivated player and will have some good years going foward. Like Lundqvist and Thomas did after being in the league for a while now and in their later years, Luongo will be steller wherever.

Luongo is a superstar goalie that when we got him, every team wanted him and he is still is considered a top elite goalie, he ain't no few season good washed up goalie.

Unless he fixes his technical and positional issues, he will remain a middle of the pack goalie.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:17 PM

Saying Hodgson is a superstar in the making is a bit much, if you assess his game from an objective point of view there are holes that might prevent him from being that.
The difference is Schneider is also one of the best goalies in the world, he is probably just as good as Lu.....

We all want Schneider to be good,maybe half as good as Luo when Luo was groin injury free would suffice.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:17 PM

Coho is soft Kesler is rugged. If our top line of the Sedins are a couple of punching bags (very talented punching bags) it makes sence to want to counter weigh there softness with some sandpaper on the second pretty hard to win a cup with your top 2 lines unwilling to get into the dirty areas. Say all you want about Coho's skill set I agree he has alot of potential but he could never surpass Kesler to play a second line role on this team because he can't match Keslers willingness to play a hard game. That said for that matter wouldn't make a great playoff 3rd line center either nor would he be happy in that role playing checking minutes against other teams pf's was not his strength and teams would smell that and attack it. Giving him sheltered ice time in the playoffs is not an option. Hence the only option was to move him it made sense to me perfectly. That said Kassian may not have the polish of Coho and probably wont have as good a career imo but he is 100% a better fit for this team because there is no one standing in his place where he could peak thus has the option where Coho didn't to flourish on THIS team.

For this reason Coho and Luongo are not comparable. Schnider can offer something Luongo hasn't mental toughness. That said I still believe that Luongo is the better goalie however Schnider may be better for this team. The canucks seem to play with more confidence infront of him. just my opinion



Nailed it.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:24 PM

Now before anyone rants on me for being a "Luongo Lover" or "Hodgson Fanboy" hear me out and try to think of this objectively as possible.

Last season we had 3 very viable centers - Henrik, Kesler and Hodgson. Henrik, the veteran, is one of the league's best forwards and our captain and has proven himself consistently over the last odd decade. Kesler, not quite as old as Henrik but as big a leader and part of this team as he. Then there's Hodgson, the high draft pick and superstar in the making. He had done it all up to this point - performed exceptionally at big tournaments, put up stellar numbers in junior leagues and was basically on-par with Eberle in terms of development. Then this kid scores at a 20 goal, 40 point pace in his first season with the Canucks to prove himself. However, we trade Hodgson and keep Henrik and Kesler.

Now my question is, why are we trading Luongo but keeping Schneider? These goalies are in a very similar if not exact same predicament. We had Luongo (our former captain), one of the best goalies in the world and a veteran, and then Schneider - a guy who like Hodgson had played well in minor leagues. Schneider then plays in the NHL in limited game time and produces great numbers, similar to how Hodgson did. Nothing spectacular, he only played around 30 games, but his NHL success in limited time was very comparable to Hodgson's success in limited minutes.

My response to "oh but Luongo crapped the bed in the playoffs and looked shaky all year" is simple - how great was Kesler when it mattered most? 1 goal in his final 18 games of the season. That is on most other teams grounds for a swap, just brutal and a big reason we didn't beat Los Angeles. Kesler had a terrible season last year, Hodgson had a great one yet we didn't trade Kesler and keep Hodgson in the #2 center spot. Why not? Because Kesler won a Selke? Because Kesler had 2 good 70-point seasons? Hodgson was more than capable of playing a #2 center spot role and would eventually take our #1 spot without a doubt.

Now look back at Luongo. Luongo was also a superstar goalie and had a couple of stellar seasons. Yet we want to trade him, why? If you want to keep Henrik and Kesler over Hodgson, you should want to have Luongo in net over Schneider. It is an identical situation yet everyone's minds have been warped by the media and how our players have been portrayed - Kesler the superhero who plays with emotion and scores in big games and Luongo as the fragile goalie whose burned out. On the contrary, Kesler is the one coming off 3 major surgeries (the definition of fragile and burned out if you ask me) and Luongo is the one who single-handedly took this franchise to Game 7 and played big in the Gold Medal Game.

So simply, with all of that in mind, why Schneider over Luongo when we stuck with Kesler and Henrik over Hodgson?


He single-handedly took us to game 7?


Lost all respect for your post right there.


EDIT: Actually I take it back, because Luongo threw away game 6 which is why there was a game 7 LOL.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:32 PM

I don't understand why this guy needs to write an essay every time he posts, especially when he's usually wrong.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:39 PM

I wish we had traded Schneider earlier, now it feels to late, and thus if anyone will be traded it will likely be Lu. It's gonna hurt a lot though.
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