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#1 one-x

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:33 PM

Kesler missed quite a few games due to surgery last year and he never really was able to shake it off when he came back. Now he's had a couple more and I'm not sure if he'll be as good as he was a couple years back. Am I the only one nervous about him?

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:42 PM

Maybe a little but I think he'll be just fine.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:58 PM

I think he came back to early last season, and his play suffered the consequences, if we allow him to get to 100% I think he'll make a full recovery.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:14 PM

If he actually comes back at 100%, which he hasn't done for a while, I believe he'll do just fine.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:20 PM

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:24 PM

Nope, not a 40 goal scorer. Maybe a 30. But I have a feeling he is going to be rushed and start playing again. I hope not, really need him for the Playoffs.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:25 PM

Better than last season, but not as good as the season before(2010-2011 season).
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:34 PM

I think it's natural to be nervous about him. We all know that he's capable of being a super star from what we saw in his 40 goal season. All we can do is hope we can get the Kesler we know and love back, and not someone who's rushing himself and playing half injured. When Kesler is on his game, we get performances like we saw in Van vs. Nashville and the olympics (aka elite). When he's off his game, he seems to dive and hog the puck too much.

Every person and injury is different, so we'll see how it turns out. There's no way to really tell until we see him play again. The one bright side of the lockout was players like Kesler didn't feel the need to rush back into playing, so hopefully he got a lot more healing in than would've been the case if there was no lockout.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:47 PM

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:50 PM

He'll be lucky to be able to score at a 50 point, 25 goal pace. This guy finished last season TERRIBLY with 1 goal in the final 18 games and was invisible. If that's just after hip surgery I can't imagine how useless he'll be following two major surgeries to the same arm.

His shot will be a lot weaker and he won't hit as much thanks to wrist and shoulder surgery, and without enough time to rehab and train properly he won't be anywhere near as good as he can be. I hate to say it fans but Kesler is pretty much finished. At least he can kill penalties and play good defence, because I doubt he'll be scoring goals any time soon.

Ideally, we can get Kesler back to playing the set up man for Booth and Higgins. He is capable of a 50-assist season (he had a couple of seasons ago) so once he realises his wrist shot is too weak after these injuries he'll hopefully revert back to his playmaker abilities. Booth and Higgins are both capable snipers who need a playmaker and Kesler can be just that.
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:58 PM

Im really nervous about him. IMO, the Nucks don't have a good shot at the cup without Kesler at 100%. He's so critical to our offense and to AV's matchup game. Some guys seem to heal really well from injuries and come back without missing a beat (think Sami Salo), and other guys like Kesler just can't seem to regain their step. I hope I'm wrong but I think we're going to see another sub-par season from #17.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:58 PM

I dunno. I don't think it's as much a physical problem as it is a mental one. Players have come back from worse injuries just fine. His problems last year weren't so much because of any lack of speed or strength, but just the decisions he made while playing. He seemed frustrated and tried to force things that he couldn't do even at 100%.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:59 PM

I don't think he'll be able to get back to shape, but hopefully he can be close to it. 30-35Goals in a full season
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:00 AM

If the Canucks rush him back in the regular season no he won't be the same. If he rests up and gets up to full game speed and comes back when he's 100% he's going to absolutely dominate the playoffs.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:02 AM

The inside story will be told when the Canucks announce 2c.

Kes is about to be replaced with no return date imminent and no guarantees on his return to form.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:04 AM

During the offseason he'll be traded to Toronto for 2 first rounders and a second.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:14 AM

Be interesting to see if the Luongo sweepstakes goes to Florida.

A trade for Weiss out of Florida (who has indicated Florida will lose him at end of season) and Allen would bolster the Canucks situation.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:23 AM

If that's just after hip surgery I can't imagine how useless he'll be following two major surgeries to the same arm.

I hate to say it fans but Kesler is pretty much finished. At least he can kill penalties and play good defence, because I doubt he'll be scoring goals any time soon.


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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:00 AM

Good question. Definitely threads like these are needed.

I think he's gonna be OK.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:06 AM

Better than last season, but not as good as the season before(2010-2011 season).


Exactly. His wristshot was bogus due to his wrist. So he'll put up a better goal per game ratio than last year.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:17 AM

People need to remember that Ryan Kesler was signed as a 2nd line center, that can play a two-way game by shutting down the match up and putting 50 points. The first two seasons, he exceeded expectations partially because he played on the first unit power play with the Twins. He learned how to get in front of the net, and developed a wicked wrister that we probably won't see again. So what I am saying is:

As long as he can put up 50 points, and can shut down players, he will be worthy of his contract. Everything above is bonus. He's suppose to be a secondary offense on this team. The Twins are suppose to do most of the damage.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:24 AM

Kesler needs to become a playmaker, so no.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:57 AM

People need to remember that Ryan Kesler was signed as a 2nd line center, that can play a two-way game by shutting down the match up and putting 50 points. The first two seasons, he exceeded expectations partially because he played on the first unit power play with the Twins. He learned how to get in front of the net, and developed a wicked wrister that we probably won't see again. So what I am saying is:

As long as he can put up 50 points, and can shut down players, he will be worthy of his contract. Everything above is bonus. He's suppose to be a secondary offense on this team. The Twins are suppose to do most of the damage.


Have a little faith. Kesler's competitive spirit is exceptional, if there's a way for him to return to 40 goal scoring form, I believe he'll do what he has to do to make it happen.



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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:02 AM

i hope not

the guy needs to grow some balls and play like a man

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 08:31 AM

I think you bring up a important question. Personally I don't think he'll be the same, he won't be better than he was nor will he be as good as he was. Would I like him to be better? Of course but I think history show's that things aren't always the same after what Kesler has gone through. Combined with his stubborn ways he could be his own worst enemy. I still expect him to be very good, just not the same old Kesler.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 09:37 AM

It will be very frustrating for Kes to recover from two surgeries. I hope that he will be a more thoughtful player and less injury proned. I can't see Selke in his future, but he will still be an important part of the team. I think he will be a good 2nd line player for the duration of his contract.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 09:44 AM

I can see home getting back to being a 60-70 point player again (very good for a 2nd line center) but I doubt he'll ever score 40+ again

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:23 PM

Good question. Definitely threads like these are needed.

I think he's gonna be OK.


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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:28 PM

Im worried too, especially with the small amount of games this season.... I just hope he comes back 110% healthy that's it.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:28 PM

People said Malkin was done, and he came back to win the Hart. Fans are usually really short-sighted.

Are you CRAZY??? Trade Green for ONE first round pick?? He's restricted after this season.... He WILL get an offer sheet for 7-8 million from a number of teams regardless if he plays another minute for us or not. That offer sheet would be worth 4 first round draft choices.


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