Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 how many of you donated to his charity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni_14 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I never liked him even when everyone thought he was telling the truth...but my cousins bought Livestrong bracelets, t-shirts...his autograph off of Ebay...when they found out he was lying it hit them as hard as it would a 5 year old learning Santa Claus isn't real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 how many of you donated to his charity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 sorry to sound heartless, but maybe that's the price of learning a lesson to not buy into celebrities so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 how many of you donated to his charity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 No one is making the claim that the world is a worse place because he is in it...where are you getting this from? And "their victories would have been just as tarnished"...you know this how? That's right you don't...his cheating is the issue here, not the fact that he won a lot or anyone is trying to make an example of him. Other cyclists were caught doping in between the time Lance started lying his ass off and the time he decided to come clean...while there are impure elements in cycling, I'd bet that they are in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Miguel Indurain won 5 consecutive Tour de France races. He is a member of the Cycling Hall of Fame and never once tested positive for anything resembling PEDs. He won a lot too, but the difference is Indurain didn't make a spectacle of himself. If Lance had not been so flamboyant and defiant he might not have gotten caught at all. I mentioned Indurain because he is an example of a clean cyclist who was successful. Lance Armstrong wasn't "made an example of"...he made his own bed...and now he has to lie in it. Greg LeMond is another example of a cyclist with a clean record, who is a revered member of the professional cycling community who never made a big deal out of himself when he was riding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Not me, not a dime. My volunteer time and my dollars go to 'local' cancer charities here in Canada, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Its time for Lance to take his Money and go live in an obscure country where he won't be recognized easily and live out his days away from anything that resembles a spotlight. Good lessons for all those who place celebrities onto pedestels, believing that their accomplishments somehow make them better people. I personally have had zero interest in competative cycling and I actually believe that there should be two of every sport (One where roids etc are legal and another where none is) I know this is not realistic but hey if some people want to destroy their bodies for profit and other's entertainment they should be allowed to do so somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Miguel Indurain won 5 consecutive Tour de France races. He is a member of the Cycling Hall of Fame and never once tested positive for anything resembling PEDs. He won a lot too, but the difference is Indurain didn't make a spectacle of himself. If Lance had not been so flamboyant and defiant he might not have gotten caught at all. I mentioned Indurain because he is an example of a clean cyclist who was successful. Lance Armstrong wasn't "made an example of"...he made his own bed...and now he has to lie in it. Greg LeMond is another example of a cyclist with a clean record, who is a revered member of the professional cycling community who never made a big deal out of himself when he was riding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I agree that it's his flamboyancy that got him caught; but is that not the same reason why he was such a high profile. Lance Armstrong brought competative cycling to a world stage. Before his over the top tale, the following for cycling was made up mostly of enthusiasts. Now everyone and their dog knows about Lance and the Tour. As successfull as those other athletes are, they were never as famous as Lance. I'm not saying that they're wrong to persecute him in the way they are. I'm saying that all of this hype is due to his fame, which was majorly created by his attitude and a mountain of lies. Is it such a strech then, to believe that International Cycling Organizations are using this as an opportunity to crack down on doping? If they are, would that not be considered being "made an example of"? Not that it's a bad thing, but it seems to fit the bill for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I agree that it's his flamboyancy that got him caught; but is that not the same reason why he was such a high profile. Lance Armstrong brought competative cycling to a world stage. Before his over the top tale, the following for cycling was made up mostly of enthusiasts. Now everyone and their dog knows about Lance and the Tour. As successfull as those other athletes are, they were never as famous as Lance. I'm not saying that they're wrong to persecute him in the way they are. I'm saying that all of this hype is due to his fame, which was majorly created by his attitude and a mountain of lies. Is it such a strech then, to believe that International Cycling Organizations are using this as an opportunity to crack down on doping? If they are, would that not be considered being "made an example of"? Not that it's a bad thing, but it seems to fit the bill for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 He only brought attention to it because he was an American who won. I am pretty sure cycling had already been a big deal in Europe. Edit: He brought it to the American stage, not the world stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Light Racicot Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Phelps's infamous "bong photo" nearly did him in already. People made SUCH a big deal about this. Damn man...I'd smoke a bong with Michael Phelps...haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Hartnell's Mane Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yeah I remember that one. Ridiculously overblown incident in my opinion too. To me, smoking a bong is as taboo as drinking beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni_14 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 He only brought attention to it because he was an American who won. I am pretty sure cycling had already been a big deal in Europe. Edit: He brought it to the American stage, not the world stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni_14 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Lol it wasn't my money...I don't give a damn...lol I told them well let's see so far that's Alex Rodriguez and now Lance Armstrong that have disappointed you...that's twice now you've been duped by "celebrities". If it were me, there wouldn't be a third. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 not to derail this thread... but I think people worship celebrities/athletes too much to the point where they forget that these are people we are talking about, so they are subject to flaws (and in some cases, major flaws.) Even if your hero was a parent, even they have flaws and aren't perfect. So to expect nothing but perfection from these people/heros is just setting yourself up for disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni_14 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I agree. Tiger Woods is a perfect example. He cheats on his wife a few times and its the top story on every news outlet for a week. Like who cares, its such a trivial matter compared to what else is going on in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 actually... that whole thing made him MORE of a hero to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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