Buggernut Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Ah yes the Land of the Not-So-Free and the Home of the Afraid as my cousin (a Texan born and bred who volunteered for Vietnam and was wounded) - his take on what his country has become. The conspiracy nuts seem to hold sway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Don't class me as one of the conspiracy nuts. Just somebody who wants some assurance, and sees the occasional random shooting as the lesser evil compared to mass tyranny and dictatorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Don't class me as one of the conspiracy nuts. Just somebody who wants some assurance, and sees the occasional random shooting as the lesser evil compared to mass tyranny and dictatorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Keep in mind here that criticism of the Obama administration or believing in consistent checks against government (which means not blindly trusting government) means you're automatically placed in the "conspiracy nut" class. I'm not sure if it's a BC or a CDC thing in particular to think of things like this in American-esque polarised terms but nonetheless pretty mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 If the shoe fits... and it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Does the "shoe" fit on roughly 48%+ of the voting US populace? Far too mundane and passive aggressive of a term, but not surprising in the least coming from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 As my mentor and guru the late George Carlin has noted: Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 And such sentiments are in the forefront of the concerns of elected US politicians as well. Pretty clearly President Obama is “cynically and systematically using his position as President to lead the country.” God forbid, eh? Oh yeah and what is Obama facing according to a Republican Texas Congressman - impeachment and/or deportation because ya know he was not born in the US of A and his birth certificate is fake, eh? Responding to reports that President Obama is considering signing as many as nineteen executive orders on gun control, Republicans in Congress unleashed a blistering attack on him today, accusing Mr. Obama of “cynically and systematically using his position as President to lead the country.” Spearheading the offensive was Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas), who charged the President with the “wanton exploitation of powers that are legally granted to him under the U.S. Constitution.” Calling him the “Law Professor-in-Chief,” Rep. Stockman accused Mr. Obama of “manipulating a little-known section of the Constitution,” Article II, which outlines the power of the President. (my note the Law Professor-in-Chief crack was first used by Sarah Palin for which she was roundly ripped.) “President Obama looks down the list of all of the powers that are legally his and he’s like a kid in a candy store,” Rep. Stockman said. “It’s nauseating.” The Texas congressman said that if Mr. Obama persists in executing the office of the Presidency as defined by the Constitution, he could face “impeachment and/or deportation.” Noting that the President has not yet signed the executive orders on gun control, Rep. Stockman said that he hoped his stern words would serve as a wake-up call to Mr. Obama: “Mr. President, there’s still time for you to get in line. But if you continue to fulfill the duties of President of the United States that are expressly permitted in the Constitution, you are playing with fire.” http://www.newyorker...l#ixzz2IAiGaqEX Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 If I was Secret Service for the inauguration I would be feeling an heightened sense of impending disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 That doesn't answer the question at all.. how about answering directly without hiding behind quotes from other people. If you believe 48%+ of people are at this extreme end of the spectrum, you are in fact one of these people, because that itself is a conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Mass tyranny and dictatorship??? If the shoe fits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 The answer seems clear. A lot of stupid, uninformed and ignorant people wandering about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Keep in mind here that criticism of the Obama administration or believing in consistent checks against government (which means not blindly trusting government) means you're automatically placed in the "conspiracy nut" class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Question then becomes, what checks and balances are there on the military and police who do have them, and the governments who pull their strings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 What "chacks and balances are there anywher else in the world. The U.K.? France? Sweden? Japan? Here in Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 The pro-gun people really have nothing to fear because the Republicans are in the majority in Congress. I don't see how any of the legislative meaures will be able to pass Congress. The only reason the 1994 assault weapon ban succceded was that the Democrats controlled both houses. And because of the 1994 ban, the Republicans was able to gain control Congress for the first time in 60 years in the 1996 elections. In the 2014 elections, the Republicans will likely retain their majority or increase their majority in Congress. Every Democrat in conservative rural districts face the possiblility of losing their seats. Furthermore, the Democrats could even lose control of the Senate. So President Obama is really playing with fire with the gun control legislation. If he loses both houses, he will have difficulty in passing any legislation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks since 77 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Whats "whack a doodle" is that he places mental heath at the bottom of the list, yet evey one of these mass killings was done by a"whack a doodle".Nice prioratizing. Says it all for me. By the way, is whack a doodle a legal term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Parker Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 It's a step in the right direction....but with the amount of AR-15's and other assorted semi-automatic long guns, and high capacity magazines, already in circulation, and which fall under a 'grandfathering'....this isn't really even a band-aid, as much as it's the illusion of a band-aid. Essentially, the country of the United States, as it pertains to gun violence, is a airplane in a nose-dive.....and these 'protective' measures are seat-belts. I pose that an ongoing federal gun buy back program, well funded, well organized nationwide, that had a consistent and constant presence in as many towns and cities as it could logistically and financially possibly be in, would do more for taking more of these large calibered battlefield war tools so that there are simply less of a cache that could potentially be turned on the populace at large. I suppose every journey begins with a step, large or small....so at least there's that, with the measures announced today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Whats "whack a doodle" is that he places mental heath at the bottom of the list, yet evey one of these mass killings was done by a"whack a doodle".Nice prioratizing. Says it all for me. By the way, is whack a doodle a legal term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro Rock Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Ah come on nows folks, if regime change weapons were so bad, then why did Saint Obama authorize their sale to Mexican Cartels and Syrian "freedom fighters?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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