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The Tide Has Turned in Vancouver: A Prediction


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#91 disisdayear

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:14 PM

In a sentence, I am officially predicting that the Vancouver Canucks will MISS the playoffs in 2013.

Here's why:

-Goaltending fiasco. Don't care about PC responses from the players or the GM, this will be a major distraction that will have an adverse effect on team morale. Awkward locker room. Poor allocation of cap dollars. I've said for a long time that the Canucks really missed the boat by not trading Schneider for something that could've seriously helped up in a Cup run last year, and it will for a long time be a regret of ours, IMO. Whatever we get for Luongo will be unexciting and we'll still have a relatively unproven goalie backstopping an alleged "team built to win now". Not a good combination.

-Complacency. Why didn't anybody go to Europe? Practicing with the UBC team is hardly an adequate preparation for the season. Makes me think that this bunch has largely lost their hunger. A 5-game post-season exit last year adds credence to this thought. By not going to Europe/Russia, the message in essence is that they'd rather stay in their posh Vancouver homes than be bothered to go try and compete to help stay sharp. Not a good sign. Of course, this doesn't include everybody, but the vast majority of the team chose to not play hockey in the downtime. I expect it to cost them.

-Calgary has gotten better. Added good scoring depth in Hudler, and late-season acquisition Cammalleri. Got rid of Jokinen, which is addition by subtraction. Got a proven PP QB in Wideman. Most importantly, a new coach. Would not surprise me at all to see the Flames win the division, somewhat like the Canucks did in '06-'07, out of nowhere and under AV's rookie year behind the bench.

-Edmonton has gotten better. Justin Schultz is going to be a star. I like the Fistric acquisition a lot. Dubnyk was very good at the Spengler Cup. Heavy momentum going into the year. Key guys are already in mid-season form.

-Minnesota has gotten better. Granlund, Parise, & Suter should all have an immediate and material impact.

David Booth's injury announcement yesterday just makes me more confident that this is one of those years where essentially everything's going to go wrong for the Canucks. The Jason Garrison signing is also one that I was/am vehemently against. Don't expect it to turn out good. Sami Salo's presence on the back end will be sorely missed.

And no, I am not "hating", so please don't suggest that I am. This is an opinion of mine that I am fully entitled to. Feel free to debate and/or include your own prediction.


Valid concerns King, but your conclusions strikes me as an over-reaction to the state of affairs for the Canucks. True, the issues that are raised are cause for concerns and in a shortened season, everything in magnified, so I suppose fans reactions should be the same.

The Canucks are dealing with injury issues and issues that are unique to them, but every single team in the NHL are dealing with multiple issues themselves. So, where does that leave us? We're probably not a lock on winning the NW division as I had thought a week ago, though I think even with Booth being out, a playoff seed in spots 5-8 is realistic.

I say this because:

(1) the first line should get more ice time (improving their productivity);
(2) the defense is deep and balanced;
(3) the goaltending, in spite of external chaos is still the best 1-2 tandem in the NHL;
(4) continuity in systems and veteran presence;
(5) and a core group of veterans who were embarrassed by their early exit in last year's playoffs.

I've suggested in past posts that the two keys to the Canucks success will be great goaltending and staying healthy (that's obvious, ain't it, Sherlock?)...if the CDC members will indulge me, I shall add the ability to weather the early season storm with the second line being out of commish as an added key element to our success (that's even more obvious, ain't it Sherlock?). I believe that as a collective group, the team should be able to deal with this for 3-4 weeks (tops), at which time, we will hopefully have injury issues resolved (and/or possibly have some reinforcements added).

I find the King's over-reaction (on issues that are valid) and subsequent drama that it has caused (surprisingly, that of Deb the Moderator who in her role as moderator shouldn't be fanning the flames herself...evidently, she's lost her objectivity) to be amusing...there's never a dull moment on the board.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:15 PM

ok if no one is going to say it... i will...... saying players don't have the drive because they didn't go to Europe is stupid... i consider any north american born player that went a sell out...i can understand European born players wanting to go home and play..... but some have family to think about and didn't want to disrupt there kids if this very thing happened...

no desire because of a quick exit in last years play-offs. that is explained by the team... they were on cruse control from the game against Boston in January to the play-offs ..imo is that they are a good team and cruised to the play-offs .. it wasn't a fight and it wasn't very hard...it took them a series to get into it the year before...that Chicago series got them into play-off mode... the 11-12 play-offs the kings had been playing play-off hockey from January just to make the play-offs..the canucks learned there lesson.. it won't happen again..there is no goalie controversy.. that is trumped up by the media... they are both being paid and they will both play...what is there to be distracted about...nothing....it is a non issue to me.

and just because a player goes down with injury doesn't me that's the end of the season...it just gives the guys waiting in the minors an opportunity to show they deserve a chance...

your whole post is looking at the worst possible scenario of everything... i for one am not worried...
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:24 PM

So, King of ES, let me get this straight...this is the starting lineup of the team you think will win the NW:

RW - Jarome Iginla
Just turned 35, and currently injured.

C - Roman Cervenka
Never played a game in the NHL, or on North American ice.

LW - Mike Cammalleri
Hasn't scored more than 50 points in a season since 2008-09.

D - Jay Bouwmeester
Three seasons with Calgary now (246 games), and a total of 12 goals. -21 last year.

D - Dennis Wideman
Career -39.

G - Mikka Kiprusoff
Had a great year last year, but the year before was fairly average. Is 36 now, so some decline isn't totally out of the question. Nobody to back him up if he falters.


...Whereas, this is the starting lineup of a team that will not make the playoffs:

RW - Alex Burrows
Elite penalty killer, who has also averaged over 27 even-strength goals a season in last 4 years.

C - Henrik Sedin
Recently won Hart and Art Ross. 1.17 point-per-game average in last 3 seasons.

LW - Daniel Sedin
Even more recently won Pearson and Art Ross. 1.18 point-per-game average in last 3 seasons.

D - Dan Hamhuis
Defensive specialist, but in 146 regular season games with Vancouver, already has 10 goals and a +58.

D - Kevin Bieksa
Not only +20 better than Wideman last season, also had only 2 less points despite having less than half the PP time.

G - Cory Schneider
Best goalie stats in the league for the last 2 years combined, just entering the prime age for goaltenders. If he falters early, we happen to have a perrenial allstar to take over for him.


Is that right? Now that I see it in writing...sure, makes total sense!
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:27 PM

So, King of ES, let me get this straight...this is the starting lineup of the team you think will win the NW:


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Is that right? Now that I see it in writing...sure, makes total sense!



I told ya............he is Jay Feaster ::D
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:28 PM

So, King of ES, let me get this straight...this is the starting lineup of the team you think will win the NW:

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Is that right? Now that I see it in writing...sure, makes total sense!


Thanks for that, I see it now, too!

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:34 PM

Having two great goalies (given no trades) is NOT a reason to not make the playoffs!

Injuries on the second line might be more of a problem, but I still expect them to make it, just not as high a seed as they have for the last couple years.


This is actually a very important factor. We will be playing a HUGE amount of back to backs this season. Having 2 starters could be more of a blessing than a hinderence
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:55 PM

Nothing's wrong with it, but you're not going to be in game shape. This team doesn't have any chemistry issues, most have been a part of the core since the Burke/Nonis era. Chemistry isn't the issue. Complacency is. I'd be a lot more confident if most of the team had already been playing some sort of competition.


Do you even know the definition of complacency? Its a feeling of contentment or self-satisfaction, especially when coupled with an unawareness of danger, trouble, or controversy. Do you actually believe that the players are content with how there season ended? And are so confident that they will win that they didnt train for the season?

You act as if every player in the NHL was playing over seas, when in fact very few were, outside of the high profile players.

There is nothing that suggests the players are satisfied or content considering how the last couple of years have played out. You have no idea how the players have been preparing for camp.
The Twins have been pegged as 2 of the hardest working players in the off season. Burrows has never been known to show Kassian was training at the Nike center all summer, and then played in the AHL. Lappy has put on 15 lbs of muscle and has never been stronger. Schneider, Raymond, Hanson all played over seas.

With your constant showing of discontent, it is really hard to take any of your arguments seriously.

Especially when you say things like:"...Calgary will win the division."

Just stop
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:01 PM

It's an impressive feat to call having what may be the best goalie tandem in the League "a fiasco." The only real downside to keeping both goalies this season is the cap hit, and given the dearth of available backups, both players may be too valuable to move right now. (As it stands, it looks like Joe Cannata would be the backup if we moved Lu or even Schneider.)


That's certainly not the only downside. Schneider is not happy with Luongo being here, Luongo is not happy with Luongo being here. I don't care what they say in front of the camera, any reasonable person should be able to figure that out. It's Mark Sanchez & Tim Tebow.

If Schneider is outshone by Luongo, that makes it look stupid to trade Luongo.

If Luongo is outshone by Schneider, that makes Luongo's perceived value even lower, which translates to a lesser return.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:02 PM

I don't buy too much into the prediction thing especially when the season hasn't even started yet. I'll make my preiction and opinions when I have some credible stats to go off of. As for most players not going overseas to play, yes that could bite us in the behind, but we'll just have to see.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:04 PM

I had to laugh at the notion that Calgary will be one of the reasons for Canucks missing the playoffs. Yeah...okay. Hudler has turned the franchise around.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:04 PM

That's certainly not the only downside. Schneider is not happy with Luongo being here, Luongo is not happy with Luongo being here. I don't care what they say in front of the camera, any reasonable person should be able to figure that out. It's Mark Sanchez & Tim Tebow.

If Schneider is outshone by Luongo, that makes it look stupid to trade Luongo.

If Luongo is outshone by Schneider, that makes Luongo's perceived value even lower, which translates to a lesser return.


Must be nice to have that speshul gift of ESP. I betcha if you took this talent of yours to the networks you could get your own reality show on Lifetime and everuthin'.......

Perhaps we should just appreciate the fact that we have two, TWO, stellar goalies and let the season play out?

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:04 PM

So, King of ES, let me get this straight...this is the starting lineup of the team you think will win the NW:

RW - Jarome Iginla
Just turned 35, and currently injured.

C - Roman Cervenka
Never played a game in the NHL, or on North American ice.

LW - Mike Cammalleri
Hasn't scored more than 50 points in a season since 2008-09.

D - Jay Bouwmeester
Three seasons with Calgary now (246 games), and a total of 12 goals. -21 last year.

D - Dennis Wideman
Career -39.

G - Mikka Kiprusoff
Had a great year last year, but the year before was fairly average. Is 36 now, so some decline isn't totally out of the question. Nobody to back him up if he falters.


...Whereas, this is the starting lineup of a team that will not make the playoffs:

RW - Alex Burrows
Elite penalty killer, who has also averaged over 27 even-strength goals a season in last 4 years.

C - Henrik Sedin
Recently won Hart and Art Ross. 1.17 point-per-game average in last 3 seasons.

LW - Daniel Sedin
Even more recently won Pearson and Art Ross. 1.18 point-per-game average in last 3 seasons.

D - Dan Hamhuis
Defensive specialist, but in 146 regular season games with Vancouver, already has 10 goals and a +58.

D - Kevin Bieksa
Not only +20 better than Wideman last season, also had only 2 less points despite having less than half the PP time.

G - Cory Schneider
Best goalie stats in the league for the last 2 years combined, just entering the prime age for goaltenders. If he falters early, we happen to have a perrenial allstar to take over for him.


Is that right? Now that I see it in writing...sure, makes total sense!


Any reason why your analysis didn't go beyond the 1st line?

Who's on our 2nd line, again?

:bigblush:

And BTW, I never said that Calgary "would" win the division, I said that I would not be surprised. A new coach can and often does have a profound effect.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:12 PM

Must be nice to have that speshul gift of ESP. I betcha if you took this talent of yours to the networks you could get your own reality show on Lifetime and everuthin'.......

Perhaps we should just appreciate the fact that we have two, TWO, stellar goalies and let the season play out?


Two stellar goalies that are annoyed and frustrated with the situation, and who will both be under insanely heavy pressure, yes.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:16 PM

Who's on our 2nd line, again?


No point talking depth when comparing to Calgary................since Calgary doesn't have any.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:18 PM

No point talking depth when comparing to Calgary................since Calgary doesn't have any.


Baertschi looked pretty good last year. Glencross is pretty good. Hudler. Tanguay.

More than you think.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:20 PM

When I originally saw this topic I thought it would be a post about how the tide has turned and the Canucks would win the cup this year.. Guess not :o
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:23 PM

Baertschi looked pretty good last year. Glencross is pretty good. Hudler. Tanguay.

More than you think.


More proof you are Jay Feaster :lol:
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:24 PM

OK King, but here's what we're doing....we're holding you to this and, when it falls apart (your theory that is) then it's ban time? (your inner troll is shining through)


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:25 PM

Edm will be better but somehow doubt they can move into a playoff position.
Flames need major work, even fans seem to think that selling Iginla for the long overdue rebuild is in order.
Minny will be much better but did Suter benefit from Weber and Nashville's team D?
Colorado also didn't improve to the point of challenging the top IMO.
In this shortened season having 2 #1 goalies will be a huge benefit.
Having a few injuries now may also be of value; when others are starting to feel some burnout fresh legs will be like trade deadline additions.
Complacent? Guess that bum Crosby should have gone to Europe, now he'll just be a floater with KoBS logic.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:34 PM

More proof you are Jay Feaster   :lol:


LOL!

I think Calgary is marginally better than last year. But all their key players are past their prime, and a year older. And contrary to what King seems to think, Hudler is NOT a superior player to Jokinen. At best, it's a wash. But for Calgary, who is paper thin at center, my guess is it will be a downgrade.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

King is a pessimist as it allows him not to not get that emotionally invested but I have to somewhat agree with him on this one. Not saying that we're for sure going to finish in the basement but we could very well be fighting for a playoff spot on the last day. I've commented such in the last couple of days as well. Number one we are starting the year without a single second line player on our team, except maybe Burrows who is on the first line. We are missing a third line center and have 2 or 3 youngsters that could see the line-up starting day. Unless the Sedins are absolute heros it's going to be a very tough, claw through the muck year.

The only thing that may save us is if we keep Lou and platoon he and Schnieder in net all year. We have the system and players to win close games, which is what we've done in the past. Too many changes and uncertainty for me to be comfortable. The only other thing that may save us is that our division is very mediocre. We could pull a SE division and make the playoffs as the third seed while coming in 9th or 10th in the conference pointwise.

In this new age of parity where the NHL hands out points like candy (shootouts) and we are only playing 48 games be ready for the whole conference to basically be tied come playoff time. 2 or 3 wins could be the difference between 5-10 spots in the standings.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:39 PM

How does this guy clearly dislike a team so much, yet spend so much time talking about them?
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:43 PM

Some of you need to grow some balls or a thicker skin. You may not agree with the OP's post but it was well thought out and, of course, he's entitled to his opinion.

@King of the ES: Although you make some good points that I agree with, I ultimately think this team is too good not to make the playoffs. They may not be the dominant force in the regular season that they have been the last few years, but they have enough great elements that they will be one of the top 8 teams in the West come the playoffs.

One point of yours I disagree with is that having the Luongo/Schneider tandem is going to be a distraction. The thing with this situation is that both Roberto and Cory are being the ultimate professionals and are accepting and understanding of the situation. We're so used to primadonna's in this league whining and complaining and demanding trades that we just assume that there is unrest in the locker-room but in reality, and this is just my best guess as I'm not actually IN that locker-room, Luongo is taking the high road and Schneider continues to respect the presence of a renowned goalie like Luongo while he's still here.

That all being said, it won't be a complete shock to me either if the Canucks do miss out. There are certainly some things working against them this year, their decimated 2nd line being one of the major ones.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:46 PM

I think Calgary is marginally better than last year.



Every team is marginally better than last year at this time of the year though.


And then the puck drops.

Just ask Jay Feaster about last year :lol:
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:49 PM

Your threads are almost as bad as those by Mr. Reputable...


I sometimes wonder if Mr. Reputable, Nucknit, and King of the ES are the same person...
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:51 PM

That's certainly not the only downside. Schneider is not happy with Luongo being here, Luongo is not happy with Luongo being here. I don't care what they say in front of the camera, any reasonable person should be able to figure that out. It's Mark Sanchez & Tim Tebow.

If Schneider is outshone by Luongo, that makes it look stupid to trade Luongo.

If Luongo is outshone by Schneider, that makes Luongo's perceived value even lower, which translates to a lesser return.


Any reasonable person...

The problem with that analysis is that it appears Luongo and Schneider are actually roommates on the road. If they weren't getting along, that would not be the case.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:51 PM

Some of you need to grow some balls or a thicker skin. You may not agree with the OP's post but it was well thought out and, of course, he's entitled to his opinion.


Is this your first time reading a King of ES thread?

He has no actual desire to have a real conversation about the team. Every single post he makes is some sort of critisism of this team at every level.

Any person who has this little faith in a team would not be a fan of them. He's a troll. And all he likes to do is get a reaction from Canucks fans.

Not to mention this topic has already been discussed time and time again.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:54 PM

AV didn't create this, Mike Gillis did. Mike Gillis had ample time to trade Schneider, which is all that we needed to do. This team, plus whatever return we got back from trading Schneider (ideally at the deadline of 2012, or off-season 2011 - would've been something great), plus Luongo in net, equals strength.

Instead, we've ended up with two frustrated and annoyed goaltenders, an awkward locker room, and a distraction that will follow us around for the entire year until dealt with.


I will point out again this is baseless and asinine. They are not frustrated, they are not annoyed, the locker room is not awkward, and there is no distraction. Every single report and quote has been contrary to this drivel.

For me this is where King is trolling, he's making up negative crap in hopes that the situation blows up so he can be right about the Luongo "trade", or lack there of.

At least let the first week play out so you can make a seemingly unbiased decision ... why donchya?

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:54 PM

Is this your first time reading a King of ES thread?

He has no actual desire to have a real conversation about the team. Every single post he makes is some sort of critisism of this team at every level.

Any person who has this little faith in a team would not be a fan of them. He's a troll. And all he likes to do is get a reaction from Canucks fans.

Not to mention this topic has already been discussed time and time again.


Admittedly, I have no idea who King of the ES is. If he has a history of trolling and 100% negativity, it wasn't evident to me in this thread, but at least now I know why you guys are responding the way you are.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:58 PM

For crying out loud, can everyone please stop with the "they're friends" argument? It is just ridiculous. Luongo's 34 years old and will not want to be Schneider's backup. If they are indeed "friends", this is the exact thing that will create a divide in their friendship. Open your eyes! Lu's not going to sacrifice the last few great years in his career to be "a nice guy".


I don't know how old you are but your showing great immaturity here. As I've pointed out before and I can even agree that Luongo probably wouldn't rate the situation as a 10/10 but in case you haven't reached 34 yet, by time you do you start learning more about life. This is not something you would let ruin a relationship for at this age. It's called maturity, everyone knows MG is working on making everyone happy. Some things take time and at 34 you don't need to stomp your feet and pout, you realize other people count too. Something you seem to not quite understand.

Edited by Dogbyte, 16 January 2013 - 02:58 PM.

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