Buggernut Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The wording of the article is quite misleading. Nobody's "targeting" anyone's kids, but Obama himself and the security arrangement he has going for himself and his family, compared to those of the average common people. (Yeah, I know the risks aren't the same, but the latter's isn't zero either.) I've wondered myself, with the laws against castle doctrine, does 24 Sussex Drive have armed guards ready to shoot and kill intruders on sight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The wording of the article is quite misleading. Nobody's "targeting" anyone's kids, but Obama himself and the security arrangement he has going for himself and his family, compared to those of the average common people. (Yeah, I know the risks aren't the same, but the latter's isn't zero either.) I've wondered myself, with the laws against castle doctrine, does 24 Sussex Drive have armed guards ready to shoot and kill intruders on sight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Republican Governor Chris Christie seems to view it differently and says it is "reprehensible" for the National Rifle Association to run an ad bringing President Barack Obama's daughters into the gun-control debate as noted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Then using the children in SH as fodder for gun control should be in the same light, but unsurprisingly, it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks since 77 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 While I understand the need for presidential protection, I fail to see the need for protection for previous presidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Ditto .. he is positioning himself in the middle for now .. will be interesting to see how far right the wing-nuts can pull him before it is all over .. maybe he will run as a Dem .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Light Racicot Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Who would need to bother following the NRA when people here do such a great job of it? The NRA is not "targeting his kids" -- that kind of flat out lie is about as much journalistic integrity I'd expect from typical polarising media and their unnecessary dramatics. They know anything the NRA says will fire up their opposition, so I wonder why they need to add Jerry Springer spin to their story. Clearly the NRA is criticising Obama about his policy of guards and firearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Nope, apples and oranges but continue with your NRA talking points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Oh darn, the anti-gun lobby talking points guy says I use NRA talking points. Carry on with the hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dittohead Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The Knee Jerk Reaction from both sides is retarded. wow. It's a 3 ring circus. Lefties and Righties all use children to push their agenda. I don't own a gun but I want one now and if i had one I would'nt want the government to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Your problem is employing bizarre analogies and comparisons. I am not anti-gun. I grew up with guns and was trained to use both long guns and handguns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The Knee Jerk Reaction from both sides is retarded. wow. It's a 3 ring circus. Lefties and Righties all use children to push their agenda. I don't own a gun but I want one now and if i had one I would'nt want the government to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I don't care if you grew up with guns. Bizarre = things you disagree with, just like apples and orangutans, and yes given your complete lack of respect for the second amendment, and your fear mongering about how guns are inherently dangerous due to their presence in a household, you are most certainly anti-gun. Your gimmick is just as easily identifiable as the NRA's. Bingo, and indeed politicians have been quoted as saying they would use government to do just that. In at least three states (this was last I checked a week or so two ago), representatives have said they would both pass state laws refusing to acknowledge federal gun bans of any type, and simply not enforce any federal gun ban of any type, as well as any executive order declaring such weapons illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Statistics say otherwise, but then, what do facts really mean when one has an "agenda"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 It has been shown, proven, posted yet those who don't want to hear it are sitting with their fingers in their ears yelling "Lalalalalala" as loudly as they can. Proof, facts mean nothing to this crowd (the pro-automatic, we must own asault weapons at all cost group) as they are firmly mired in their own denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeone Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Christie: NRA ad with Obama daughters ‘reprehensible’ By Olivier Knox, Yahoo! News | The Ticket – 3 hrs ago http://news.yahoo.co...--politics.html Blunt-speaking New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, thought to be eyeing a 2016 run for the Republican presidential nomination, blasted an NRA ad that mentions President Barack Obama's daughters as "reprehensible" and warned it "demeans" the powerful gun-rights group. "To talk about the president’s children, or any public officer’s children, who have—not by their own choice, but by requirement—to have protection, and to use that somehow to try to make a political point is reprehensible," Christie said. "The president doesn’t have a choice, and his children don’t have a choice, of whether they’re going to be protected or not," the governor said. "It’s awful to bring public figures' children into the political debate. They don’t deserve to be there." He added that "for any of us who are public figures, you see that kind of ad, and you cringe, you cringe." Christie's remarks are unlikely to endear him to those conservatives he already annoyed by praising Obama for the federal government's response to superstorm Sandy. But the NRA ad—which could either be about the Obama daughters' Secret Service protection or the armed guards at their posh D.C. private school—has drawn sharp criticisms for bringing the girls into a debate about gun violence. The NRA has said it's a legitimate criticism of Obama, who has expressed skepticism about the organization's call for armed guards in schools in the aftermath of the school shooting in Newtown, Conn. "They’ve got real issues to debate on this topic. Get to the real issues. Don’t be dragging people’s children into this, it’s wrong, and I think it demeans them and it makes them less of a valid, trusted source of information on the real issues," Christie said. The governor made it clear that, if he decides to run in 2016, his kids won't have much of a say in the decision. "My children had no choice, realistically, in what I decided to do with my career and what effect that’s had on their lives, in making them somewhat public figures, and making them subject to protection from the executive protection unit," he said. "My kids don’t have a choice about that. "My children had no choice that I wanted to run for governor. I mean, I pretended that they did, I asked them what they thought. But in the end they had absolutely no choice in whether I ran for governor or not," he said, to chuckles from his audience. "They knew that, by the way, when I was asking them, which is why they didn’t spend a whole lot of time answering," he quipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeone Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Ann Coulter Scolds NRA’s LaPierre: When Asked If You Want Fewer Children Killed, Answer Is ‘Yes’ Conservative columnist Ann Coulter appeared on MofoPolitics on Friday where she scolded National Rifle Association’s Wayne LaPierre for his organization’s response to the tragic slaying of 26 in Newtown, Connecticut, on December 14. Coulter said that LaPierre’s hedging and defensive appearanceonMeet the Press following the attack did nothing to advance his organization’s goals. His answer to questions about not wanting more mass shootings should always be “yes,” and to then highlight the fact that only an armed populace has been able to prevent shootings like what happened in Connecticut. “The NRA needs a better spokesman,” Coulter said. “I was watching Wayne LaPierre on Meet The Press this weekend and — is he the only gun rights supporter who has not read John Lott‘s book?” Coulter said that when NBC News anchor David Gregory was hammering LaPierre on his organization’s objective when asked if he supports fewer children being killed, his answer was not confidence-inspiring. “There was hemming and hawing,” Coulter said. “The answer is — get this right-wingers, get this gun supporters — yes, yes, yes.” Coulter said that the only mechanism for preventing mass shootings is to have an armed populace, which is a topic of discussion that should be in LaPierre’s comfort zone. She said that, with mentally disturbed people pushing strangers onto train tracks in New York City twice in one month, there is room to attack the political left for their tolerance of with mental disorders. “Can we lock some of these people up,” Coulter asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I don't care if you grew up with guns. Bizarre = things you disagree with, just like apples and orangutans, and yes given your complete lack of respect for the second amendment, and your fear mongering about how guns are inherently dangerous due to their presence in a household, you are most certainly anti-gun. Your gimmick is just as easily identifiable as the NRA's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Ann Coulter Scolds NRA’s LaPierre: When Asked If You Want Fewer Children Killed, Answer Is ‘Yes’ Conservative columnist Ann Coulter appeared on MofoPolitics on Friday where she scolded National Rifle Association’s Wayne LaPierre for his organization’s response to the tragic slaying of 26 in Newtown, Connecticut, on December 14. Coulter said that LaPierre’s hedging and defensive appearanceonMeet the Press following the attack did nothing to advance his organization’s goals. His answer to questions about not wanting more mass shootings should always be “yes,” and to then highlight the fact that only an armed populace has been able to prevent shootings like what happened in Connecticut. “The NRA needs a better spokesman,” Coulter said. “I was watching Wayne LaPierre on Meet The Press this weekend and — is he the only gun rights supporter who has not read John Lott‘s book?” Coulter said that when NBC News anchor David Gregory was hammering LaPierre on his organization’s objective when asked if he supports fewer children being killed, his answer was not confidence-inspiring. “There was hemming and hawing,” Coulter said. “The answer is — get this right-wingers, get this gun supporters — yes, yes, yes.” Coulter said that the only mechanism for preventing mass shootings is to have an armed populace, which is a topic of discussion that should be in LaPierre’s comfort zone. She said that, with mentally disturbed people pushing strangers onto train tracks in New York City twice in one month, there is room to attack the political left for their tolerance of with mental disorders. “Can we lock some of these people up,” Coulter asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Ann Coulter.........fits into the same category as Rush Limbaugh..........one sees her name associated with an article and you already know what it's going to consist of........crap........more crap..........covered in .........wait for it............crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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