Baggins Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I agree, but you can also make the argument that he really hasn't done much to really put them over the top. During their playoff run, other than Hamhuis, it was all Nonis/Burke guys. Again, I think he's done an average job, and I don't see anything he's done, or not done, that would warrant firing him.........that said, the goalie situation will be his legacy. If he doesn't handle it well, it could very well be the end of his time in Van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5minutesinthebox Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I agree, but you can also make the argument that he really hasn't done much to really put them over the top. During their playoff run, other than Hamhuis, it was all Nonis/Burke guys. Again, I think he's done an average job, and I don't see anything he's done, or not done, that would warrant firing him.........that said, the goalie situation will be his legacy. If he doesn't handle it well, it could very well be the end of his time in Van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gumballthechewy Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yup. It was the tone of a lot of these super fans who could or would not see that this guy was going to be a decent player in the NHL, but he was not then (and maybe never will) be in the category of Sedin or Kesler. I hope he does (relatively) well in Buffalo, and I think the Canucks did well in trading him. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Gillis is just as over rated as Brian Burke when he took over the ducks. Ducks already had the pieces in place to win the cup.. burky made a couple deals and was hailed as all mighty. Same as mg... except his team didn't win the cup. All theessential pieces where in place for mg to succeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 It's funny when people say that coho and grabner had no place on team when in reality they were never given a chance. I remember watching countless times Grabner would just rocket past defensemen for breakaways when they were already in position yet he still blew right past them over the blueline with his crazy skating. CoHo in limited minutes was scoring well and developing nicely and then gets traded for Kassian who is no where near where Coho was in terms of adapting and fitting in. IMO I would rather have COHO and Grabner right now because our Depth on D is great even without Ballard and Kassian does nothing for us. We need those guys. In the end though everything that happened definitely happened and I have come to terms with it all and really don't care long as the Canucks ice a playoff team and make a good run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Seriously, nit-picking on Kassian already? He barely was wearing the Canucks jersey for half of a season! It takes time to develop a player, give him a chance! I'm sure he will improve during this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 If he blows this Loungo deal by not getting a scoring winger, a real prospect and a draft pick then he should be toast. He has already thrown away 2 very good players in Grabner and COHO for a bottom 6 forward, a number 7 dman and a "project". could you imagine if those 2 players were in the lineup today. Granted he's made some nice aquisitions in Hamius and Garrison, but is it just me, he seems not able to pull the trigger on landing a true top 6 forward(Booth is not a top 6, post concussion). comments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 It really doesn't matter that you'd like to keep CoHo. The kid wasn't happy with his position on the team. With him, his father, and his agent harping on management about his ice time, it was only a matter of time before he was moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Another blogger fed and conquered by media spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 How does every single thread become about Hodgson somehow? Some people really need to let it go. It's really getting pathetic. I can't imagine how you would deal with a breakup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Sure,Kassian.I am willing to believe you. Give the board one -as in ONE- quote from Hodgson that stipulates that. O-N-E. 1 UNO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 How does every single thread become about Hodgson somehow? Some people really need to let it go. It's really getting pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Sure,Kassian.I am willing to believe you. Give the board one -as in ONE- quote from Hodgson that stipulates that. O-N-E. 1 UNO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Grabner was waiver eligible with our entire top six coming off a career year. Given his penchant for showing up to camp in poor shape, he wasn't going to make this team out of camp. He'd have to clear waivers to be sent to the farm just as he had to in Florida. He took to long to develop and was in position to be lost for nothing. Moving him was the smart move. It really doesn't matter that you'd like to keep CoHo. The kid wasn't happy with his position on the team. With him, his father, and his agent harping on management about his ice time, it was only a matter of time before he was moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Another blogger fed and conquered by media spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The opposite proves it? I see ..... nothing. GM's have their media plants to spin their stories.They run the show. You can move on. Move on. Hodgson will always have been a Canuck and the circumstances surrounding his being traded will always be debated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Tweeted by his own agent. Who also talked about the situation on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The opposite proves it? I see ..... nothing. GM's have their media plants to spin their stories.They run the show. You can move on. Move on. Hodgson will always have been a Canuck and the circumstances surrounding his being traded will always be debated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The opposite proves it? I see ..... nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 They also don't remember what it is like having a bad goalie. They just don't appreciate anything. If they were here when Nonuts was in charge, completely unable to make any deal that might help the team they would know. Aside from the Luongo deal, which took a lot of people by surprise, most of his moves were complete failures. Noronen, Smolinski, Carney, Weinrich...drafted PATRICK WHITE in the first round. These newer posters probably became fans in the last few years when the Canucks were strong and so they just dont understand what it was like before, going from failure to failure with bad goalies. Constant playoff collapses nowhere near what has happened in the last few years. Granted the WCE days we played exciting hockey, we did not exactly keep goals out or win with much efficiency. The team we have had the last few years is the best overall team I have ever seen on the Canucks, and yes I'm going back to the 80's when I say that, not to 2001 or 2002. You nitwits cant completely write off signings like Hamhuis or Garrison and then pine for Burke or Nonis when their signings were more often a Jan Bulis or Brian Smolinski than a Higgins, Lappierre, Malhotra, Hamhuis, Torres, Samuelsson, Ehrhoff, Garrison, etc etc. Gillis has done a LOT here, and going into a season nowadays is to be excited for the team and not just for some Nazzy/Bert plays or an end to end rush from Bure. We should appreciate what we have here for God's sake because this type of team is rare, and any long term Canuck fan knows that down to their bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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