Snake Doctor Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Grabner had a glimps of success in Vancouver, but look at the ice time he gets in Long Island. Let's see what Grabner does if he ever gets in the playoffs for them. I would bet he would easily be shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 he has to be one of the best gm's this team has had. he brings allot of stability. as for the louie trade he will never make everyone happy also his scouts and coaches would also be in on whats best for the team. the simple fact he hasn't panicked and sent him off for scraps speaks volumes to how he's trying to bring the best package back. the problem is like Nash theres a limited market of teams that need and can afford louie.not to mention louie's nmc. realistically a top six forward and a prospect are all i see coming back. how soon we forget ....by the time Nonis was done with this team he had AV playing the TRAP he missed the playoffs let jovo walk for NOTHING and filled the team with plugs isbister richie pyatt carney winrich 3 seasons van went from being a force to a joke under Nonis he will forever be brian burkes coat tails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereman Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 He was handed arguably the two most complete players in the NHL the paSt five years ... and certainly the most complete players in the history of Vancouver. (Sedins) And the best or second best only to lundqvist goalie in the league the past 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Nitwit=Nucknit's twin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex the Great Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Hamhuis n garrison wanted to play for their home team... its not like he made a tradr. MG is extremely over rated and should have been canned after our playoff exit. Either him or AV. Instead our best player in the series took the blame and got benched(Luongo). Mg has made too many bad decisions. Hope he's gone ASAP Unless he can get an elite player in return for Luongo he should be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Gillis is just as over rated as Brian Burke when he took over the ducks. Ducks already had the pieces in place to win the cup.. burky made a couple deals and was hailed as all mighty. Same as mg... except his team didn't win the cup. All theessential pieces where in place for mg to succeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Gillis was brought in during a time that this team wasn't in a rebuilding mode. It already had solid pieces in place. So to say that he shouldn't get credit because he didn't draft or sign all the players in the lineup is silly. He still has overhauled over 50% of this team in the last 5 years He basically took a team that was already good, and made them great. Something that Nonis couldn't get done here; which is why he was canned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I agree, but you can also make the argument that he really hasn't done much to really put them over the top. During their playoff run, other than Hamhuis, it was all Nonis/Burke guys. Again, I think he's done an average job, and I don't see anything he's done, or not done, that would warrant firing him.........that said, the goalie situation will be his legacy. If he doesn't handle it well, it could very well be the end of his time in Van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharnhayre Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Results since Gillis took over: Year 1: won division, 3rd in conference, 7th overall, lost in 2nd round Year 2: won division, 3rd in conference, 5th overall, lost in 2nd round Year 3: first overall, lost in finals Year 4: first overall, lost in first round Year 5: TBA those are some pretty solid results, how is that thin ice? Four straight division wins, never below 7th overall, averaging a second-round playoff appearance, that is pretty solid and we've had a legit shot at the Cup, been a contender every season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypee Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I agree, but you can also make the argument that he really hasn't done much to really put them over the top. During their playoff run, other than Hamhuis, it was all Nonis/Burke guys. Again, I think he's done an average job, and I don't see anything he's done, or not done, that would warrant firing him.........that said, the goalie situation will be his legacy. If he doesn't handle it well, it could very well be the end of his time in Van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanchik Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 You simply can't please everyone. The one's complaining about MG are the ones complaining when he first came on board. They are also the ones complaining about the team after both Presidents Cup seasons. They are the ones who used to call Nonis No-nuts and wanted Burke's head served on a platter. The one's who complain year after year over everything are probably the ones who never buy a ticket to watch the game at Rogers. They are also the bandwagon fans when the team does well. Just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Other than the fact that he's managed the cap masterfully over the last couple seasons. Basically the reason we have two presidents trophies. Ehrhoff was a pretty important addition to our run was he not? Not to mention Torres, Higgins, and Lapierre who all scored huge goals throughout the run. He's also the one that went out and got Sundin and Demitra for the second line, which ultimtely allowed Kesler to raise his game to another level. He was nothing more than a third line checker before that. He's done alot of great things that some fans either ignore, or they aren't even aware of. Either way I think it's safe to say his job is safe for the forseeable future. Thankfully Canucks fans don't get their way, otherwise we'd have a new coach and GM every season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 there's no point to bring "1 or 2 great players" with a crappy roster. MG has put in a cup contender for more years to come. We have one of the best line up in western conference. Skilled forwards with good & strong Ds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eretz canucks Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Though I think he's doing an ok job, the table was pretty well set for him before he got here, and he hasn't done a whole lot to improve on that. Burke/Nonis Sedins Kesler hansen Burrows raymond Edler Schneider Luongo Bieksa MG Hamhuis Ballard Malhotra Higgins Booth Barker Vandermeer Kassian Schroeder Ebbett Lapierre Volpatti Weise Alberts Garrison It can easily be argued that this is still, primarily, Nonis and Burke's team and that Gilli's only major contribution that have worked out have been Hamhuis, Lapierre, Higgins and, to some degree, Malhotra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Hamhuis n garrison wanted to play for their home team... its not like he made a tradr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Justin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Results since Gillis took over: Year 1: won division, 3rd in conference, 7th overall, lost in 2nd round Year 2: won division, 3rd in conference, 5th overall, lost in 2nd round Year 3: first overall, lost in finals Year 4: first overall, lost in first round Year 5: TBA those are some pretty solid results, how is that thin ice? Four straight division wins, never below 7th overall, averaging a second-round playoff appearance, that is pretty solid and we've had a legit shot at the Cup, been a contender every season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geebster Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Too many newer fans on here that forget what its like to have horrible GMs. Be thankful that we have Gillis. He's a great GM. All Gms make mistakes. You don't fire them becuase they make one or two questionable trades. He's done enough other great things for this team that vastly outweigh those deals. His job is about as safe as they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmotamed Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I rather he trades Schneider away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitwitt Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 Apparently the saying "what have you done for me lately" does really hold true in sports. Forget that he constructed one of the deepest, most statisticaly dominant teams the Canucks have ever had only two seasons ago. That means nothing now. Bunch of ungrateful ingrates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitwitt Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 You simply can't please everyone. The one's complaining about MG are the ones complaining when he first came on board. They are also the ones complaining about the team after both Presidents Cup seasons. They are the ones who used to call Nonis No-nuts and wanted Burke's head served on a platter. The one's who complain year after year over everything are probably the ones who never buy a ticket to watch the game at Rogers. They are also the bandwagon fans when the team does well. Just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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