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#31 disisdayear


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:03 AM

As far as the second line goes, it'll probably be Ebbetts ahead of Schroeder. The hints that AV/MG have been dropping about the short season limiting the team's opportunities to experiment leads me to think that AV (in particular) would have a higher level of comfort with Ebbett than Schroeder.

With that in mind, I don't see any distinction between the second and third lines...it's more like we have a line 1 (Sedins/Burrows), and lines 3A, 3B and fourth line. Henrik's line will probably end up playing 23 minutes a game, and lines 3A/3B will probably play 15 minutes each. If Daniel, Henrik and Burrows ends up taking a bunch of minor penalties, we are going to be hooped. We will be more dependent on the defence to generate offensive plays than ever.

For anyone who attended the scrimmages, was there indication that AV is going to employ the trap? The scores in the two scrmmages woud suggest that they were trapping. As mentioned by someone, we'll probably end up seeing this brand of hockey for the first month...yawn.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:40 AM

Totally agree with the lines you made.

We need the chemistry on the 1st, 3rd and 4th - don't split them up (in the beginning of the season).

And we also need another veteran on this weak 2nd line in Ebbett. Kassian may not be most improved but he is tough hopefully he is good enough to slot in the 1st or 3rd line to move Burrows or Hansen to make the second better the season goes on.

PS we will buy out Luongo (in the summer) and make room for Edler and maybe another FA....?

We will not buyout Lou! Why would you buy him out and gain nothing when he has value? We would be better off trading Lou for a 6th round pick then buying him out.... :picard:

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:43 AM

Quick question:

What would you rate the lines once Kesler and booth return, also hoping we have a full lineup?
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:15 AM

Ballard - Tanev gets an A+ from me as a third line pairing. If they were a first pair, I'd give them a C, but honestly, how many teams have a better #5-6 pairing then that?

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:23 AM

After watching the scrimmage last night, I expect this on Saturday:

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen
Raymond - Schroeder - Kassian
Weise - Malhotra - Ebbett

Edler - Garrison
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Tanev


Sedins will play around 18-19 minutes, 2nd line and 3rd line split the time perfectly, around 16 minutes each, last line plays just around 10 minutes.

Top 4 defencemen all play around 22 minutes, bottom pairing plays around 16-18 minutes.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:34 AM

Vandermeer is a defenceman not a forward...

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:44 AM

I agree that there are not many questions left. The Sedins and Burrows as the top line is agiven and I think the 2nd line (2nd scoring line, maybe not the 2nd line in terms of TOI) has been decided with the play of the Raymond-Schroeder-Kassian line in tonight's scrimmage. As for the bottom 6, we know that Higgins and Hansen work well together and so do Malhotra and Weise. Basically, the only spots up for debate are the 3rd line center spot and the 4th line left wing spot. The 3rd line center spot is a question only because Lapierre hasn't looked that great but he's really the only option for the spot at the moment so it's moot point. That leaves the 4th line LW spot, which I think is open to Darren Archibald, Aaron Volpatti or Andrew Ebbett.

The defense is set. Absolutely no questions there. The Garrison - Edler pairing has been dynamite in camp, the Hamhuis - Bieksa pairing has already been established and Ballard and Tanev have seemed perfect together since last year.

As for goaltending, the only question is how many games will both Schneider and Luongo get? Will Schneider get the lion's share of the games like a normal #1 or while Luongo is here will there be a platoon, like last year?

D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Schroeder - Kassian
Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen
_______ - Malhotra - Weise

Edler - Garrison
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Ballard - Tanev


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:49 AM

Ebbett should not be second line center. He plays best as a grinder getting points by going to the net. Schroeder is a play maker and Raymond has never played with a playmaker only other shooters. Look what happened tonight when someone was passing him the puck in good areas... I know it's just a scrimmage, but with Kassian in front of the net and schroeder making plays to raymond this line could be quite effective skill wise. They are fast so the back check is good, but I'm worried if teams will force them to dump the puck in as they have almost no board presence.. sept kass. If we want Kass and Raymond to have decent numbers we have to play them with schroeder. Ebbett will put up a few numbers, but mainly grind it out goals... We have enough grinders give the young gun a chance he makes smart plays and is responsible defensively :D SOLID LINE!

Schroeder = Let's see what happens...

Ebbett= I wish Kesler was back...

There are styles of games where Ebbett can play better the JS, but JS can work the 2nd PP which is way more important as we struggle at times with 5v5 goals and then swap to a awful PP :(

JS can play at this level the physical side isn't there yet, but he will learn what he can and cannot get away with on the ice
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:05 AM

Vandermeer is a defenceman not a forward...

Maybe one of the defenders is injured so Vandermeer can slot in.

Remember that Rome and Alberts also have played forward under AV.
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