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#1 dudeone

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:12 PM

White Nationalist Party Among Sponsors Of Gun Appreciation Day

by Tommy Christopher | 12:18 pm, January 18th, 2013

http://www.mediaite....preciation-day/

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It’s Gun Appreciation Day Eve, the day before some Americans will mark the Martin Luther King Day/Obama inaugural weekend by visiting gun ranges, gun stores, and gun shows armed with copies of the U.S. Constitution, American flags, and “Hands Off My Guns” signs “to send a loud and clear message to Congress andPresident Obama.”

Although Gun Appreciation Day chairman Larry Ward assures people that Martin Luther King would have approved of his demonstration, the group’s sponsors include a White Nationalist party called The American Third Position, which “believes that government policy in the United States discriminates against white Americans, the majority population, and that white Americans need their own political party to fight this discrimination.”

The Southern Poverty Law Center has designated A3P a “white nationalist hate group,” and the Anti-Defamation League calls them a “white supremacist political party.”
Also from the Anti-Defamation League:


Publicly identified leaders of the A3P are its chairman William D. Johnson, a California lawyer who has run for office in Wyoming, Arizona and California; and four directors: Kevin MacDonald, an anti-Semitic professor of psychology at California State University-Long Beach; James Edwards, a Tennessee-based white supremacist who runs the Political Cesspool radio show; Tomislav Sunic, a white supremacist author and radio show host and Don Wassall, a white supremacist who founded the racist and anti-Semitic American Nationalist Union.


American Third Position is one of dozens of Gun Appreciation Day sponsors, and although there is no fee to become a sponsor, Gun Appreciation Day’s approval is required:


Obama, Feinstein and the rest gun grabbing, opportuniists are dead set on passing Gun Control Legislation this Month.


This is the ‘line in the sand’ moment for those of us that love the Constitution. Americans need to make a powerful statement that will put the fear of God in our politicians that are thinking about infringing upon our Second Amendment Rights.


If you have an Political or Member Organzation, Non-Profit, For Profit, PAC, Blog, Newsletter and/or Facebook Fan Pageand want to help spread the message of the first ever national Gun Apprecation Day we want to add your group to our website as a sponsor.


No cash required (we will accept contributions to help us buy ads Online and On Air) , we just ask that you spread the word to your memebers, fans and followers every day until and including January 19, 2013.


Simply fill out the form below and we will be in touch.


Most of the Gun Appreciation Day sponsors are gun retailers, or other firearms-related businesses, along with gun advocate groups. Oddly, GAD was able to snag the sponsorship of Men Who Support Women Against Gun Control, but haven’t yet landed Women Against Gun Control. The Angry Pepper, a Connecticut-based food company, is also a sponsor, as is Puerto Rico Armed Citizen, which appears to have signed up before American Third Position did.

Media Matters For America, who flagged the White Nationalist sponsorship, has a lot more information on American Third Position, but for my money, the Gun Appreciation Day sponsor that really says it all is this one:

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Not to make light of a serious medical condition, but if you were among the ranks of Half-Cocked-Americans, you’d probably be clinging to your stockpile of guns, too.

Update: Gun Appreciation Day has removed American Third Position from the event. From Media Matters:


In a statement responding to Media Matters’ report, Gun Appreciation Day wrote that while they have attempted to screen out groups “that might detract from the message,” “We mistakenly missed one. We have removed the group and reiterate this event is not about racial politics, it is about gun politics.” The statement:


The small hard working staff at Political Media, Inc has been working diligently throughout the Gun Appreciation Day Campaign. The volume of support we have received has been overwhelming. We decided to have an open registration for sponsorship for Gun Appreciation Day put a screening process in place to avoid associating the event or Political Media, Inc. with groups or businesses that might detract from the message.


We mistakenly missed one.


We have removed the group and reiterate this event is not about racial politics, it is about gun politics. We believe in equal rights of ALL Americans in every race, gender, religion, location and economic class to keep and bear arms as guaranteed to them in the Bill of Rights.


Gun Appreciation Day also wrote on its Facebook page: “Guys, the screening process of our sponsors was apparently not deep enough – We have corrected the problem, but you should know the left wing media called us out on it as they should have. We know better and I apologize for not catching this…but we are forging ahead – This is about Gun Liberty for all.”
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:14 PM

White Nationalist Party Among Sponsors Of Gun Appreciation Day


Of course they are......... <_<
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:18 PM

I'd like to hear dudeone's position on this, seeing as all there is from said poster is a copy-and-paste of articles.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:47 PM

I'd like to hear dudeone's position on this, seeing as all there is from said poster is a copy-and-paste of articles.



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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:52 PM

^Classic^
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:45 PM

Gun Appreciation Day chairman Larry Ward assures people that Martin Luther King would have approved of his demonstration


Of course he would have.

How did he die again?
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:48 AM

Oh no, the White Nationalist Party supports a Gun Appreciation Day, well that settles it, gun ownership is racist now. :frantic:
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:59 AM

White nationalists may also oppose child molestation. Would that make opposing child molestation bad?
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 12:02 PM

White nationalists may also oppose child molestation. Would that make opposing child molestation bad?


When "nationalist" is synonymous with "supremest", then I say bad, bad, a thousand times bad ..
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 12:07 PM

When "nationalist" is synonymous with "supremest", then I say bad, bad, a thousand times bad ..


Nationalism itself is a pretty dumb concept.
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 05:26 PM

Oh no, the White Nationalist Party supports a Gun Appreciation Day, well that settles it, gun ownership is racist now. :frantic:


I doubt that too many rational people believe that, however, it can't help the cause when yet another branch of the lunatic fringe jumps aboard the NRA bandwagon...
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:01 PM

I doubt that too many rational people believe that, however, it can't help the cause when yet another branch of the lunatic fringe jumps aboard the NRA bandwagon...

And you wonder why people like this ^ aren't given any credence in US politics?

Don't ever have to worry about assault rifles or guns in general going anywhere with that attitude.

You try far too hard to be insulting and are bad at it.

Edited by zaibatsu, 19 January 2013 - 06:01 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:05 PM

And you wonder why people like this ^ aren't given any credence in US politics?

Don't ever have to worry about assault rifles or guns in general going anywhere with that attitude.

You try far too hard to be insulting and are bad at it.

Who exactly was I "insulting"? Or do you disagree that White supremacists are part of the lunatic fringe?
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:08 PM

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Who exactly was I "insulting"? Or do you disagree that White supremacists are part of the lunatic fringe?


Trying to reason with the some folks here is like trying to reason with a cranky toddler who has pooped his pants, needs a nap and whose Ritalin dosage needs adjustment ..
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:20 PM

Trying to reason with the some folks here is like trying to reason with a cranky toddler who has pooped his pants, needs a nap and whose Ritalin dosage needs adjustment ..


Yet I continue to try.

I have to wonder if Z really thinks I'm here to do nothing but "insult" him and other gun rights activists. I really do attempt rational debate, but unfortunately, there are elements within the NRA and other 2nd amendment proponents that are worthy of nothing but derision. (Alex Jones, Wayne Lapierre, etc.) In some cases, one needs to call a spade a spade...

Unfortunately, instead of debate, I get random responses, accusing me of being a "bully" and "insulting"... of course, vitually every response is punctuated with the obligatory lol emoticon, as if to suggest that whatever remark that was made struck him as uproariously funny....
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:29 PM

Yet I continue to try.

I have to wonder if Z really thinks I'm here to do nothing but "insult" him and other gun rights activists. I really do attempt rational debate, but unfortunately, there are elements within the NRA and other 2nd amendment proponents that are worthy of nothing but derision. (Alex Jones, Wayne Lapierre, etc.) In some cases, one needs to call a spade a spade...

Unfortunately, instead of debate, I get random responses, accusing me of being a "bully" and "insulting"... of course, vitually every response is punctuated with the obligatory lol emoticon, as if to suggest that whatever remark that was made struck him as uproariously funny....


Perhaps you will eventually make it to his "Ignoble Roster of The Ignored" .. there are several of us who relish our exclusion .. it means we can comment without any response being "spewn" back at us ..
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 06:50 PM

Trying to reason with the some folks here is like trying to reason with a cranky toddler who has pooped his pants, needs a nap and whose Ritalin dosage needs adjustment ..



:lol:


It has all become clear now
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:00 PM

When "nationalist" is synonymous with "supremest", then I say bad, bad, a thousand times bad ..


Completely missed the point.
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:02 PM

Completely missed the point.


Keep shooting, tho .. you will eventually hit something ..
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:09 PM

Judge Finds California Boy Responsible in the Killing of His Neo-Nazi Father

http://www.nytimes.c...azi-father.html


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Jeff Hall held his 6-month-old daughter in April 2011. Days later, his son Joseph shot and killed him. Joseph, 12, was found guilty of murder on Monday.


By IAN LOVETT


Published: January 14, 2013


RIVERSIDE, Calif. — The young son of a neo-Nazi knew right from wrong when he shot and killed his father, and he is therefore responsible for second-degree murder, a judge ruled on Monday.


Joseph Hall was 10 years old when he shot his sleeping father in the head in 2011. Now 12, he could be held in state custody until age 23.


Because Joseph was so young at the time of the murder, the case hinged on whether he understood that shooting his father, Jeffrey Hall, 32, was wrong.


The judge, Jean P. Leonard of Riverside County Superior Court, said that after the shooting, Joseph put the gun under his bed; he did not cry when the police arrived, even as other family members were sobbing; and testimony indicated that he might have told his younger sister days before that he planned to shoot their father.


“These actions show the court that he knew his actions were wrong and did not want to get caught,” Judge Leonard said in court Monday.


The trial, which began in October but was delayed for months and resumed last week, offered a rare glance into the life of a young boy whose family hosted monthly neo-Nazi meetings at their home.


Joseph had been violent since he was a young child, according to testimony, beginning before his father joined the National Socialist Movement. Joseph hit his sisters and his stepmother, stabbed classmates at school with pencils and once tried to strangle a teacher with a telephone cord.


After he had been kicked out of half a dozen schools for violent behavior, his stepmother, Krista McCary, and Mr. Hall home-schooled him, Ms. McCary testified at the trial.


“He was very impulsive and very violent towards the other children and teachers,” Ms. McCary said. “Hitting, kicking, biting, scratching, stabbing with sharp objects, hitting with objects.”


Mr. Hall also beat Joseph regularly for years before the murder, the judge said on Monday.


Michael Soccio, the chief deputy district attorney, said he hoped the court would get Joseph help. “Joseph is a little boy, and his life has been very, very sad,” Mr. Soccio said after the ruling. But he added: “I also would have been concerned had Joseph been released. I think he’s a very dangerous boy.”


Sitting quietly in court, slight and blond and wearing glasses and a button-down shirt, Joseph showed no visible reaction when the judge found the allegations against him — the murder charge and one count of using a firearm — to be true.



If he ends up in state custody, Joseph would be the youngest person in the StateDivision of Juvenile Justice, which houses minors who have committed serious crimes, a state official said.

Matthew J. Hardy, the public defender representing Joseph, said it would be “a complete tragedy” if the boy were sent to state custody. Mr. Hardy said he planned to appeal the ruling.

Mr. Hardy had argued that the environment in the Hall home glorified violence and that, given his young age, left Joseph unable to understand right from wrong.

During the trial, Mr. Hardy showed a photograph of Joseph holding a toy gun, giving a Nazi salute and smiling beside a hooded Klansman.

The day before the murder, a reporter attended a neo-Nazi gathering at the Hall home. During the meeting, Joseph sat quietly on the stairs. He said he was having fun, even showing off a new belt bearing a Nazi insignia.

Around 4 a.m. the next day, Joseph pulled his father’s .357 handgun — which he called “the bad gun,” the judge said — down from the shelf in his parents’ bedroom. He walked downstairs, where his father lay sleeping on the couch, and shot Mr. Hall in the head.

After the police arrived, Joseph was escorted to a squad car, where he talked with Officer Michael Foster. He asked questions like “Do people get more than one life?” Officer Foster said.

“He was sad about it,” Officer Foster said in testimony. “He wished he hadn’t done it.”

Edited by dudeone, 19 January 2013 - 07:12 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:14 PM

Guns and stupidity .. what a mix .. when you combine the two you do wean the gene pool it seems ..
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Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:35 PM

Conservatives Don't Like This West Point Report on America's Violent Far-Right

DAVID WAGNER JAN 18, 2013

http://www.theatlant...ar-right/61181/

Aren't conservatives supposed to be hawkish on terror? They tend to be when it comes to foreign terrorists, but many are taking umbrage at a new West Point report on violent far-right extremists home-grown right here in the U.S. Earlier this week, the Combatting Terrorism Center (CTC) at America's leading military academy published an extensive report on the "dramatic rise in the number of attacks and violent plots originating from individuals and groups who self-identify with the far-right of American politics." Christian fundamentalists, Militia movement groups, Skinheads, neo-Nazis, and violent anti-abortionists were all cited in the report, titled Challengers from the Sidelines: Understanding America's Violent Far-Right. These factions may harbor different ideological goals, but as this chart shows, they've all ramped up their violent tactics in trying to achieve them:
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"Although in the 1990s the average number of attacks per year was 70.1, the average number of attacks per year in the first 11 years of the twenty-first century was 307.5, a rise of more than 400%," writes Dr. Arie Perliger, Director of Terrorism Studies at the CTC.
In short, this report makes a convincing case about extremists trying to inflict harm upon innocent Americans, and it's full of alarming data and clear policy recommendations. Conservatives love appealing to these kinds of studies when arguing that we need to get tough on terror, right? Well,not in this case. One Republican congressional staffer—who thinks only Muslims can be terrorists—told The Washington Times' Rowan Scarborough:


If [the Defense Department] is looking for places to cut spending, this junk study is ground zero. Shouldn’t the Combating Terrorism Center be combating radical Islam around the globe instead of perpetuating the left’s myth that right-wingers are terrorists?


The National Review's John Fund also wants to change the subject to terrorists in other parts of the world:


The world is beset by terrorists—witness the American hostages taken in Algeria this week—but portions of our federal government continue to obsess about alleged home-grown threats from the "far right" ... My sources inside Congress tell me they continue to worry that efforts to monitor domestic Muslim extremists as well as interdiction efforts against radical Islamists crossing the U.S. border are sometimes put on the back burner. The government denies this, but it seems to me its protestations would be more persuasive if it spent less time producing half-baked warnings about the danger of "right-wing extremists."


World Net Daily's Michael Carl extensively quotes blogger Pamela Geller in his article on the report. "This is another appalling attempt to demonize loyal Americans and whitewash the Islamic threat," Geller says. "West Point probably is working on orders from higher ups. Or else it has bought into the dominant PC culture." Over at Newsmax, Christiana Lilly buries the lede—turning a story about far-right terrorists into a story about liberals:


The U.S. Military Academy at West Point released a paper calling far right groups anti-federalists while describing liberals as “future oriented,” the Washington Times reports.


And yes, you better believe Drudge sirened it:


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Edited by dudeone, 19 January 2013 - 07:37 PM.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 07:46 PM

MON JAN 21, 2013 AT 11:07 AM PST


Gun Appreciation Day shootings


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David Waldman


http://www.dailykos....n-Day-shootings

This won't require a lot of explanation. I decided to count as many incidents as I could of firearms being discharged on "Gun Appreciation Day," and what happened as a result. After hearing the news of five woundings in separate accidental shootings at three different gun shows during the day, I got curious about how many other incidents, both intentional and unintentional, might have happened during the day.
I'm sure that my list is not comprehensive. All I did was search Google news. Still, I came up with a list of 109 separate incidents in 35 states and the District of Columbia, killing a total of 40 people and wounding 70 more.
Additional methodology note: For the purposes of this list, I have defined gun "incidents" as those in which there was a discharge, intentional or otherwise. There is one exception on the list: an incident in Las Vegas, NV in which an elected state representative brandished a gun and threatened to shoot the Speaker-elect of the Nevada state legislature. I thought that merited consideration, though strictly speaking, that might open the list to the inclusion of armed robberies and the like, even if no shots were fired. Though it's certainly well within reason to argue that such incidents should be included, they threaten to make the list unmanageable, and perhaps dilute its impact. But the subject is certainly open for discussion.
If it makes conservatives feel any better, the state legislator arrested is a Democrat.
Take in the full list, below the fold.


ORIGINALLY POSTED TO DAVID WALDMAN ON MON JAN 21, 2013 AT 11:07 AM PST.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 07:59 PM

^ DailyKos -- no further explanation required.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:14 PM

^ DailyKos -- no further explanation required.

Are the facts incorrect?
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:27 PM

Are the facts incorrect?

I guess the purpose of showing a usual day in America with negative connotations has no underlying intent to you, but then again, it agrees with your beliefs, so no point in questioning the premise.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:57 PM

Chicago woman loses 4th child to gun violence

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Updated: 01/27/2013 08:21:21 AM PST

http://www.mercuryne...rss/ci_22461469

CHICAGO -- At least five people were gunned down Saturday in Chicago, including a 34-year-old man whose mother had already lost her three other children to shootings.

Ronnie Chambers, who was his mother Shirley's youngest child, was shot in the head while sitting in a parked car on the city's West Side. A 21-year-old man who was also in the car was wounded, police said.

Shirley Chambers, whose two other sons and daughter were shot in separate attacks more than a decade ago, was left grieving again on Saturday, WLS-TV reported (http://bit.ly/VCSh8i ).

"Right now, I'm totally lost because Ronnie was my only surviving son," Chambers said.

Shirley Chambers' first child, Carlos, was shot and killed by a high school classmate in 1995 after an argument. He was 18. Her daughter Latoya, then 15, and her other son Jerome were shot and killed within months of one another in 2000.

"What did I do wrong? I was there for them. We didn't have everything we wanted but we had what we needed," she asked Saturday.

Chambers said despite this latest tragic chapter in her life, she's not bitter or angry.

"They took my only child. I have nobody right now. That's my only baby," she said.

A few hours after Ronnie Chambers was killed, a gunman opened fire on three men near a South Side eatery, killing two of them and wounding the third, police said.

On Saturday afternoon, detectives were called to the scene of another shooting in which a man in his 30s and a teenager were shot to death. There had been no arrests.

Chicago's homicide count eclipsed 500 last year for the first time since 2008. As grim as it is, Chicago's homicide rate was almost double in the early 1990s -- averaging around 900 -- before violent crime began dropping in cities across America.

Last year's increase, though, stood in sharp contrast to New York, where homicides fell 21 percent from 2011, as of early December.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 03:16 PM

I guess the purpose of showing a usual day in America with negative connotations has no underlying intent to you, but then again, it agrees with your beliefs, so no point in questioning the premise.

So you have no real answer. OK.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 04:32 PM

On another note, the Communist Party USA supports Obama's gun control agenda. When you have big tent parties, you're going to have extremists on both sides, but thanks to the overwhemingly liberal dominated mainstrain media in the U.S., most people are only going to hear about one of them.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:57 PM

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Pretty much describes the articles and blogs Wetcoaster cites. A victim of his own self-inflicted ignorance.


Now who does that remind me of? .. :shock:
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