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Jordan Schroeder

If Schroeder doesn't play a game this season, Will he request to be traded?

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when the nucks talk about following the redwings model, this is what they are talking about. develop young players properly,form a team with front end strength and ballance, have nhl ready players waiting in the wings. this is a club young players can be proud of. even if they dont get a starting roll.

i hope this thread was not started by an agent, father, freind or player. that would show, much like other players we know, they are not part of the team.

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Because he's seen a bunch of young players in this organization not get the opporunity and then get traded to better ones. Hodgson is now potentially the #1 C for Buffalo and we all know how much more Grabner flourished in NYI while getting a massive pay day. Might have the mindset of wanting to escape a team where youngsters aren't given real shots at making the roster.

All the more reason to giving him a shot. 4 years is a long time and you want to develop a player just for him to leave because you never gave him an opporunity?

He might feel like it's now or never to make the NHL and establish himself and get his career going.

Fair or not fair he's probably getting impatient and that not going to be good thing if he truly feels like he deserves a shot.

Ie. Grabner and Hodsgson.

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If he doesn't play a game this season then he should be traded. He's ready and if he's not the right fit move him.

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It's really tough being a contender isn't it?

When this team sucked and prospects had any easy time making the team it was, "We need to sign some quality UFA's" or "we need trade prospect/picks for guys that can actually help now". Now that we're a contender and it's, "They're not being fair to our prospects".

Canucks fans....never happy.

As a contender prospects are most valuable as depth players. To make a contender they need to play head and shoulders above guys who are waiver eligible. Otherwise you unnecessarily risk losing your waiver eligible players and hurting your depth in thge process.

Schroeder has to sieze his opportunities whether in camp or as a call-up. No prospect will be handed a spot on a contender.

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If the third line spot between Higgins and Hansen isn't good enough for him, he's welcome to take his wares elsewheres.

My guess would be that he's not under the impression that he's too good for that - but who knows - you're essentially asking us what Schroeder would want. Only he could answer that.

If he did want a trade, it's probably best to convert him into a different prospect.

As it stands however, the Canucks run a meritocracy, and he still needs to earn a position. He hasn't proven that he's clearly a better option than Ebbett at this point, and the current context is not ideal to drop Schroeder into. If Kesler were healthy, I think a shot on the 3rd line would be a better possibility, but from AHL to 2nd line center? I trust AV's judgement - and I think he'll be back on the roster very quickly in any event. It's not as simple as "AV won't give the rookie a chance."

Btw, Hodgson got an excellent opportunity in Vancouver - and he's not ready to be a top line C in the NHL - that's way over his head - hello matchup nightmares for the young center.

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He'll barely be 23 by the time the next season starts up. He's plenty young. Of course if he has a solid season or better down on the farm and the staff still decides to send him back then you must question what the hell they're doing.

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If he does, then fine. We don't need a player like that. You have to pay your dues, sure he has been in the minors for a few years now but if you are not good enough to play for the team you don't ask for a trade. You work harder and 'force' yourself into the NHL.

Anyways, he shouldn't be too annoyed/frustrated - he is bond to get more ice time in the minors then the in the NHL. We should develop our prospects instead of rushing them. If Schroeder was ready for the NHL, he would be playing. Obviously the management thinks he needs more time to develop.

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I thought he played head and shoulders over Ebbet, either way I would probably send Alberts out of town and keep Shroeder / Ebbet on the team, you can try Schroeder out for 3 games see where he's at and send him down if needed.

I'll be interested to see how Jensen does in camp next year, probably won't make the team but hopefully he raises a lot of eyebrows

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If he does, then fine. We don't need a player like that. You have to pay your dues, sure he has been in the minors for a few years now but if you are not good enough to play for the team you don't ask for a trade. You work harder and 'force' yourself into the NHL.

Anyways, he shouldn't be too annoyed/frustrated - he is bond to get more ice time in the minors then the in the NHL. We should develop our prospects instead of rushing them. If Schroeder was ready for the NHL, he would be playing. Obviously the management thinks he needs more time to develop.

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Hodgson couldn't even hold onto the 2nd line spot last year on a team desperate at center.

Grabner only siezed the opportunity when it was gifted to him by a bottom feeder. He couldn't even "earn" a spot with Florida who was desperate for offense.

Prospects need to sieze their opportunities. Particularly on a contender where those opportunities are often few and far between.

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I know I would. This organization expects everyone to just stay in the minors until their 26.

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Actually...

1. Hodgson pretty much did seize his chance to stay with the team last year as a second line centre. His trade had more to do with his relationship with the team than his ability on ice.

2. Grabber still scored 30+ goals that year on NYi didn't he? O don't use the bottom feeder as an excuse. He was the top 3 +/- on NYi for two straight year. The important thing is that he did perform when given the chance.

Some players will only perform and develop in a real gaming environment. Burying prospects in minor for years is NOT an ideal practice for EVERY players. Some of them would need to given a chance in order to succeed.

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Actually...

1. Hodgson pretty much did seize his chance to stay with the team last year as a second line centre. His trade had more to do with his relationship with the team than his ability on ice.

2. Grabber still scored 30+ goals that year on NYi didn't he? O don't use the bottom feeder as an excuse. He was the top 3 +/- on NYi for two straight year. The important thing is that he did perform when given the chance.

Some players will only perform and develop in a real gaming environment. Burying prospects in minor for years is NOT an ideal practice for EVERY players. Some of them would need to given a chance in order to succeed.

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Actually...

1. Hodgson pretty much did seize his chance to stay with the team last year as a second line centre. His trade had more to do with his relationship with the team than his ability on ice.

2. Grabber still scored 30+ goals that year on NYi didn't he? O don't use the bottom feeder as an excuse. He was the top 3 +/- on NYi for two straight year. The important thing is that he did perform when given the chance.

Some players will only perform and develop in a real gaming environment. Burying prospects in minor for years is NOT an ideal practice for EVERY players. Some of them would need to given a chance in order to succeed.

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Funny that suddenly the +/- is everything when talking of Grabner now that his most recent season is -18 (on one of the crappiest team with the worst goaltending). I'm sure if (name deleted) was a fan of someone with -18, you wouldn't hear about it, as it wouldn't be beneficial to his arguement.

Bottom line is Grabner is a bonafied NHLer and MG let him go, with a 1st rounder and a plug for a $4mil Dman who has never found his niche in Van thanks to AV.

Back on topic, JS will get his chances. His spirit will need to be incredibly noble, though,in order to override his shortcomings.

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Funny that suddenly the +/- is everything when talking of Grabner now that his most recent season is -18 (on one of the crappiest team with the worst goaltending). I'm sure if (name deleted) was a fan of someone with -18, you wouldn't hear about it, as it wouldn't be beneficial to his arguement.

Bottom line is Grabner is a bonafied NHLer and MG let him go, with a 1st rounder and a plug for a $4mil Dman who has never found his niche in Van thanks to AV.

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I don't follow the NYI very much so I don't know what circumstances may have contributed to his +/-.

I think we can all agree that judging a player based on +/- is pure folly, though. Unless it's extreme one way or the other.

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