WL Canuck Fan Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Funny that suddenly the +/- is everything when talking of Grabner now that his most recent season is -18 (on one of the crappiest team with the worst goaltending). I'm sure if (name deleted) was a fan of someone with -18, you wouldn't hear about it, as it wouldn't be beneficial to his arguement. Bottom line is Grabner is a bonafied NHLer and MG let him go, with a 1st rounder and a plug for a $4mil Dman who has never found his niche in Van thanks to AV. Back on topic, JS will get his chances. His spirit will need to be incredibly noble, though,in order to override his shortcomings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Schroeder will play multiple games with the Canucks this year so this thread is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 And who's going to take him? Florida? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 isn't it hilarious how the montreal canadians do it for years and they're geniuses, the redwings do it for years and they're geniuses.. but the second the canucks shelter young players, they're ruining prospects and running them out of town lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedz Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 i might be blind, but Schroeder isn't on the Wolves or the Canucks roster PANIC!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cIutch Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 course not , guys still young as hell and by monday morning he might even be called up if one center goes down we need him depth wise this season , even if hes never played a game , think about it players are going to go down , and the team knows it thats why gillis said that he expects Schroeder to come up this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I don't follow the NYI very much so I don't know what circumstances may have contributed to his +/-. I think we can all agree that judging a player based on +/- is pure folly, though. Unless it's extreme one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 He will be back up, just salary cap reasons, he clearly played well enough to earn a shot, and AV liked what he saw. I will start to get worried if he goes 2-3 weeks without a call up, but I expect him to be called up sometime next week honestly, unless Ebbett scores in every game & plays exceptional or something. Edit: I don't think he would request a trade anyways, the guy is loaded with character IMO, and he has worked very hard for a long time. I don't see any issues like there was with Cody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 course not , guys still young as hell and by monday morning he might even be called up if one center goes down we need him depth wise this season , even if hes never played a game , think about it players are going to go down , and the team knows it thats why gillis said that he expects Schroeder to come up this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cIutch Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I don't follow the NYI very much so I don't know what circumstances may have contributed to his +/-. I think we can all agree that judging a player based on +/- is pure folly, though. Unless it's extreme one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allkill326 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd71 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 He's an RFA this summer. I'm unsure of the rules under the CBA about the status of ELC players who don't play in the NHL. But if they don't bring him in this year I can't see them qualifying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmgOmgOm_g Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Schroeder was sent down because the Canucks would've been over the 23-man roster limit. Schroeder was the only player that was elligible to be sent down without having to pass through waivers. He'll obviously get some starting time soon. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underachieving Hero of CDC Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 OP hit the nail on the head. The Canucks have been absolutely abysmal when it comes to letting their "valued" prospects have a chance to show their worth in the NHL. We saw it with Grabner, we saw it with Hodgson, we're seeing it now with Sauve and Connaughton. Even if you look further back you see how the Sedins were always given much less icetime as youngsters than their stats suggested they should get. If Cory Schneider weren't such an incredibly patient, team-player type of guy would he have wanted out after being forced to play 2nd fiddle for 2 years to a guy he was clearly outperforming? I get that the Canucks are a deep team and that they have other options that help them win "now", but if we don't throw a few games at these kids once in a while how long can we expect them to stick around? Its also good for their development to see what the NHL game is all about. There are other deep teams in this league that are giving their youngsters a look and reaping the rewards from it as well. The Canucks on the other hand are looking at having a ridiculously bad team once thise core group retires because we've alienated all our prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 He'll stick it out, he's bound to get a chance when Henrik retires in 4-5 years. But by that point Gaunce might already be ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Younger players coming up often hit a ceiling with the organization which drafted them. Look at Pittsburg. Are they bad managers of their assets because Staal asked to be traded because he saw that he wasn't going to be anything more than a 3C in their organization? regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Edit: I don't think he would request a trade anyways, the guy is loaded with character IMO, and he has worked very hard for a long time. I don't see any issues like there was with Cody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Just can't help yourself,can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 The +/- isn't everything, but the poster that claimed Grabner was top 3 two years in a row was wrong. He simply wasn't. And, to say that 32 points is a "bonafied" NHL player is giving 32 points a lot of credit. Especially a player playing in a top 6 role. Grabner at -18 certainly shows no abilities as checking line player, or 4th line crasher, so top 6 it is. I'd be wanting a little more than 32 points from my $3M player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB_3 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 I wish we would of played him insted of ebbet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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