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#1 Lemieux

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:02 AM

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Luongold vs Schneider

Luongold pros:
GOLD medalist
Stanley Cup finalist
Stanley Cup Playoff experience
Blackhawks killer (yes, you can say that)

cons:
Too much mileage
Older (but not that old, really)

Schneider pros:
Manitoba Moose Saviour
Boston Bruins killer (at least for one regular season game)
fresh legs

cons:
no experience
mental strength unknown
could be prone to injuries (cramp in blackhawks series)
did i say no experience?

All in all, you take Luongold. This guy has done more for Vancouver than Captain Kirk and he's treated like Lindsay Lohan. The last time I checked Italian cars were still made in Italy! They are still very good!
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:03 AM

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:05 AM

Ask me after this season.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:08 AM

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:10 AM

Luongold vs Schneider

Luongold pros:
GOLD medalist
Stanley Cup finalist
Stanley Cup Playoff experience
Blackhawks killer (yes, you can say that)

cons:
Too much mileage
Older (but not that old, really)

Schneider pros:
Manitoba Moose Saviour
Boston Bruins killer (at least for one regular season game)
fresh legs

cons:
no experience
mental strength unknown
could be prone to injuries (cramp in blackhawks series)
did i say no experience?

All in all, you take Luongold. This guy has done more for Vancouver than Captain Kirk and he's treated like Lindsay Lohan. The last time I checked Italian cars were still made in Italy! They are still very good!


Nicely put. A fan who understands hockey unlike the bandwagoneers.
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You have to be a true bandwagoneer if you buy Mike's line about looking for the right deal to trade Luongo.

True fans and hockey diehards know, that is double talk for, "Luongo is a high ticket commodity now or next year, we'll keep him around just in case Schneider turns out to be a lemon and chokes games."

And choke he will.

I know this. I'm never wrong.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:13 AM

Luongo:
Gold medal on a STACKED team, and it was close.
Did not deliver NHL calibre goaltending during the finals
Inconsistent play duirng the playoffs
Gets lit up by Chicago a couple of times every series.
Terrible contract

Schnieder
Mental stregnth unproven, but I'll take it over a goalie we KNOW will melt down.
Could be prone to injurires, but Luongo has already had an injury destroy his game. He can't move laterally very well at all, and it showed on the 5 hole goal tonight.
Played great in the playoffs last year.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:19 AM

I'm not trying to bash Luongo here but I think you're underestimating Schneider. You forgot to mention his unreal stats, plus the cramp thing wasn't an actual injury. Also he has "less experience" not "no experience".

Bottom line, I think we have two great goalies and whoever is playing the best should get the starts.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:23 AM

Luongo:
Gold medal on a STACKED team, and it was close.
Did not deliver NHL calibre goaltending during the finals
Inconsistent play duirng the playoffs
Gets lit up by Chicago a couple of times every series.
Terrible contract

Schnieder
Mental stregnth unproven, but I'll take it over a goalie we KNOW will melt down.
Could be prone to injurires, but Luongo has already had an injury destroy his game. He can't move laterally very well at all, and it showed on the 5 hole goal tonight.
Played great in the playoffs last year.


-Didn't deliver NHL calibre goaltending in the SCF.. wtf? I'll partially agree, but the blame for the loss comes from the stat "8 goals in 7 games"

-Luongo's game is 'destroyed' ? ok dude relax, take off the bias glasses

-How do we 'know' Luongo will melt down? Now that he has more experience and better mental stability he might be even better than when we first got him (if possible)

Awful post in so many ways

Why can't you appreciate both our goaltenders for who they are, and what they've done?
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:26 AM

I'm not trying to bash Luongo here but I think you're underestimating Schneider. You forgot to mention his unreal stats, plus the cramp thing wasn't an actual injury. Also he has "less experience" not "no experience".

Bottom line, I think we have two great goalies and whoever is playing the best should get the starts.


11 GAA is a pretty unreal stat. But seriously, if he can't handle the pressure of a starting goalie in this market after a week of play we should trade his sorry ass and stick with Luongo till the end. In a normal season it would be fine for us to slump for a month and get red hot later, but we cannot afford that kind of growth this season.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:27 AM

please MG get rid of this distraction already.. its been far too long..
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:40 AM

This is why we can't have nice things have a PGT and a Luongo discussion thread.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:41 AM

11 GAA is a pretty unreal stat. But seriously, if he can't handle the pressure of a starting goalie in this market after a week of play we should trade his sorry ass and stick with Luongo till the end. In a normal season it would be fine for us to slump for a month and get red hot later, but we cannot afford that kind of growth this season.


So trade the goalie who is almost as good, if not better then Luongo right now, so that...What? in 5 years we can still complain about Luongo's contract?

People need to relax, it's one game, Luongo has had plenty of bad ones too. It's not like he was an all-star in net today either.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:41 AM

i cant believe the stupidity of some people

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:43 AM

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Ok just to say something, fans need to stop with the Luongo was on a stacked Canadian Olympic team excuse. EVERY FREAKIN TEAM WAS STACKED! So that cancels that out.

Luongo didn't start the Olympics, he took over from Brodeur because Brodeur with the same stacked team, almost lost to the Swiss. They freakin took us to shootout and almost won!

Brodeur with the same stacked team lost to U.S.A in round robin.

The proof is there and clear.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:20 AM

Give Luo the start tomorrow night
I would say it would be smart to play the goalie who is playing better
Give both of them at least twenty starts each though just to keep them both happy
Like to tell you the truth Luongo got us to game 7 of the finals and he choked in the final game
But at least he got us there
Schneids lost the series against the Kings last year although his game 5 performance was a lot better than
Luos game 7 performance.
Like its good to have two all star goalies...so stop dissing one or the other
In my opinion Schneids is not ready to be a starter yet
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:31 AM

Luongo:
Gold medal on a STACKED team, and it was close.
Did not deliver NHL calibre goaltending during the finals
Inconsistent play duirng the playoffs
Gets lit up by Chicago a couple of times every series.
Terrible contract

Schnieder
Mental stregnth unproven, but I'll take it over a goalie we KNOW will melt down.
Could be prone to injurires, but Luongo has already had an injury destroy his game. He can't move laterally very well at all, and it showed on the 5 hole goal tonight.
Played great in the playoffs last year.


Trying to find negative within everything positive that Lu has done really looks desperate.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:35 AM

did anyone see those goals against luongo? its not like he did any better. our team played better infront of him after the change in net. how many home openers has luongo started on a short season with pretty much brand new forward lines infront of him playing crap hockey? oh thats right never. the goalie situation isnt our prob. its everyone else out infront of them ... and as far as i can see no we dont have 2 great goalies we have 2 good goalies who look great when the pres trophy winners are playing infront of them.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:36 AM

Give Luo the start tomorrow night
I would say it would be smart to play the goalie who is playing better
Give both of them at least twenty starts each though just to keep them both happy
Like to tell you the truth Luongo got us to game 7 of the finals and he choked in the final game
But at least he got us there
Schneids lost the series against the Kings last year although his game 5 performance was a lot better than
Luos game 7 performance.
Like its good to have two all star goalies...so stop dissing one or the other
In my opinion Schneids is not ready to be a starter yet


Just going to through this out there since Schnieds lost the series against the Kings while Luongo got us to game 7.

In the three games Schnieds played against the Kings he let in 4 goals.

Luongo gave up 4 goals or more in one game in 8 of the 2010 playoffs.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:36 AM

You say this after one game, just one game. :picard: :picard: :picard:
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:38 AM

Oh no, this is starting already? Schneider's only the been the undisputed #1 for one game! And he didn't even play the whole thing!
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:48 AM

Luongo:
Gold medal on a STACKED team, and it was close.
Did not deliver NHL calibre goaltending during the finals
Inconsistent play duirng the playoffs
Gets lit up by Chicago a couple of times every series.
Terrible contract


He had two shutouts. That's NHL calibre goaltending. Problem was, like you say, he was inconsistent. When he wasn't great, he was terrible. But he did deliver NHL calibre goaltending, just only 3/4 of the time.

Terrible contract how? Cap hit? No. Length? Yes.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:10 AM

Stupidest thing I've seen in weeks is someone calling Luongo a "blackhawks killer". They still call him 7uongo in Chi-town.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 03:18 AM

Hey guess what buddy!

Last time I checked they are on the same team.

If you wanna make a LuonGOLD vs Schneider thread

Do it when one of them get traded and the teams they play on are going head to head.

Pretty sneaky guy doing it after Schneiderman gets shelled.

You are very very sneaky sneaky.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:58 AM

GDT, PGT or the 8M Lu/Scneids threads already in existence please.
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