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#1 Merci

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:38 PM

1. Ebbett and Raymond out, Schroeder and Vandermeer in.

2. Burrows can't be put with the Sedins again, he is way too needed on the 3rd or 2nd line, It's time he learned to succeed without them

3. Tell Ballard to smarten the front door up or he's gone for Corrado

4. Establish a consistent 2nd line Lapierre is centering, it is clear he is our best shot at some secondary scoring the way Malhotra and Ebbett play.

5. Keep Kassian with the Sedins



Sedin Sedin Kassian - Will do nothing but make Kassian develop fast


Higgins Lapierre Hansen - Essentially our 3rd line with Kesler back, get them cycling the puck, Hansen, and Higgins can both snipe some.


Weise Schroeder Burrows - With how Weise has played it is worth a shot to see if him and Schroder can make something happen.


Volpatti Malhotra Vandermeer - Hit people.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:40 PM

Vandermeer plays defence.

This team will be fine in the long run though; people just need to relax. I'm all for bringing in Schroeder at this point. Ebbett has shown he can be a decent contributor, but I'm tired of pissing around with what someone can potentially do. That and Schroeder needs a shot.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:42 PM

Vandermeer plays defence.


He can also play wing.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:47 PM

He can also play wing.


I'd rather have Raymond on the wing
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:49 PM

ya hes a winger as well how dont u knw this torts
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:49 PM

I agree these should be the lines next game

Sedins-Kassian
Raymond-Schroeder-Burows
Higgins-Lapierre-Hansen
Volpatti-Manny-Weise
Thats it lets establish chemistry
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:49 PM

raymond s a wasted of cap space hansen is the man for half the price
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:54 PM

sedin sedin kassian
burrows lapps hansen
higgins schroeder raymond
vandy manny weise
volpatti
woud be more appropiate send ebbett down he cost us the game with that penalty
our power play coach and defensive coach should be fired they are garbage we need new systems asap actually all the coaches need to go they remind me of sprout for team canada not adaptive at all way to predictable

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:57 PM

3. Tell Ballard to smarten the front door up or he's gone for Corrado

you realize that corrado came to training camp and didn't make the team right?
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:58 PM

1.GIVE JANNIK HANSEN THE PUCK.. HE CAN PRODUCE IF WE GIVE HIM THE CHANCE


2.GIVE JANNIK HANSEN THE PUCK.. HE CAN PRODUCE IF WE GIVE HIM THE CHANCE


3.GIVE JANNIK HANSEN THE PUCK.. HE CAN PRODUCE IF WE GIVE HIM THE CHANCE


4.GIVE JANNIK HANSEN THE PUCK.. HE CAN PRODUCE IF WE GIVE HIM THE CHANCE


5.GIVE JANNIK HANSEN THE PUCK.. HE CAN PRODUCE IF WE GIVE HIM THE CHANCE
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:01 PM

Agree with most of those points, but judging by these 2 games, here's what the players deserve:

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Weise - Lapierre - Hansen
Burrows - Malhotra - Higgins
Raymond - Ebbett - Volpatti

Edler - Garrison
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Tanev - Vandemeer
Ballard

Luongo
Schneider
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:02 PM

Why do people keep talking about Vandermeer as a forward? The guy is a bottom pairing defenceman.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:04 PM

Lapierre was on the second line at the end of last season so i say.
Sedins- Kassian
Burrows-Lapierre-Hansen
Higgins-Ebbett-Weise
Volpatti-Manny-Raymond
This is a lineup splitting up the talent however i really like when lapierre and burrows play together they have instant chemistry.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:06 PM

Do people even watch Ballard play? Do you close your eyes until you hear that he makes a mistake?

He's been great, and neither one of Vandermeer, Alberts, Barker, or Corrado will be beating him out of a spot anytime soon.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:09 PM

Agree with most of those points, but judging by these 2 games, here's what the players deserve:

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Weise - Lapierre - Hansen
Burrows - Malhotra - Higgins
Raymond - Ebbett - Volpatti

Edler - Garrison
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Tanev - Vandemeer
Ballard

Luongo
Schneider


Volpatti's arguably done more than Burr.

Why do people keep talking about Vandermeer as a forward? The guy is a bottom pairing defenceman.


He had played on the wing too in his career. He can be both a 4th liner or bottom pairing defenseman. Like how Byfuglien can play forward or D.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:29 PM

Raymond is fine, but I did notice that Ebbett isn't really pulling his weight, or his calibur of play isnt there. I wouldn't mind Schroeder getting this time to practice in the NHL, as if it were pre-season, with the absence of Kes
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:42 PM

1. Ebbett and Raymond out, Schroeder and Vandermeer in.

2. Burrows can't be put with the Sedins again, he is way too needed on the 3rd or 2nd line, It's time he learned to succeed without them

3. Tell Ballard to smarten the front door up or he's gone for Corrado

4. Establish a consistent 2nd line Lapierre is centering, it is clear he is our best shot at some secondary scoring the way Malhotra and Ebbett play.

5. Keep Kassian with the Sedins

Sedin Sedin Kassian - Will do nothing but make Kassian develop fast

Higgins Lapierre Hansen - Essentially our 3rd line with Kesler back, get them cycling the puck, Hansen, and Higgins can both snipe some.

Weise Schroeder Burrows - With how Weise has played it is worth a shot to see if him and Schroder can make something happen.


Volpatti Malhotra Vandermeer - Hit people.


This is what I see:

1. I agree with Ebbett's scratch, but maybe after a few more games. Scratching Raymond for either of the two is plain folly.

2. Burrows is not doing well. I think he's playing the worst out of the top 9. I agree, put him on the 2nd with Raymond and _________.

3. I'm sorry, Ballard at his worst > Corrado. Cam Barker played a half-step behind and Alberts is too slow.

4. You suggest bringing up Schroeder in favor of Ebbett and then Lapierre centers the 2nd line? You want Schroeder to center a grinder line? Folly again. If anything Schroeder and Raymond need to play together, that pair was the only pair who showed chemistry in the scrimmmages.

5. Agreed, but not regardless of the situation.

Weise - Schroeder - Burrows is a terrible combo! Schroeder will pass to Burrows and then he'll lose the puck because he's struggling, and Weise will just skate around hitting people. That's a waste of playmaking talent.
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

Do people even watch Ballard play? Do you close your eyes until you hear that he makes a mistake?

He's been great, and neither one of Vandermeer, Alberts, Barker, or Corrado will be beating him out of a spot anytime soon.


agreed.. however that was a really minor league giveaway tonight..
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:46 PM

Has anyone else noticed we need more playmakers on this team??? Lots of guys can shoot, but not a lot of our guys make pro passes in the offensive zone... Even when Kes and Booth re back that's just a couple more shooters. we need to dump one of our top 6 shooters for a top 6 playmaker... In the mean time we NEED to give schroeder that chance, Ebbett has had two tough games and he knows it. I expect him to play on wednesday, but if he makes as many mistakes as he has already, he's going down for sure...

Also Everyone loves to hate Raymond and I think his biggest problem is his speed.. He's too fast for his own good. Not good at carrying the puck in or dump and chase cause he's weak on the boards. He needs to trail the play more. if he comes flying into the zone on a somewhat stationary D he can be effective, but not when he's forced to the outside. HE needs to slow down a step on the offense and then maintain his backcheck speed or improve it by saving energy in the Offensive end... He can shoot when he's got time and pretty well. I'd prefer to see him get passes in the slot than be stuck in the corners and end up on his butt. This also would help our D to have him skating no deeper than the hashmarks on the rush, even if we turn the puck over he can get back in a hurry to disrupt the transition play of the other team :D

Last thing is the canucks try and play a fast paced game. Fact is were slow. Not everywhere, but our top 6 is slow right now and this will go with time, but our older players are having trouble jumping right back into it... Makes me wonder how Jagr and Selanne can do it? They are crazy talented and put themselves in the best spot to succeed a lot it seems...
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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:52 PM

I've got a 6th, how about cry a lot ?
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:11 AM

We need to work on team defence.

And maybe call Shroeder up and mix up the lines a little bit. I know it's only 2 games in, but we're gonna need to score more goals than we have been. Especially against a team like Edmonton.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:18 AM

He can also play wing.

Alberts played wing for us when we were short forwards, but it doesn't mean we should sit one of our top 9 forwards just to give him a chance. Vandermeer can fill in if it's absolutely necessary, but we have better options if it comes to that. I'd rather call up Sweatt or Rodin or Archibald if that's what it really came to.
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