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#31 WHL rocks

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:06 PM

You are quite attached to a player that the Canucks signed to a 2-way contract less then 2 weeks ago.


Attached to a player?? What makes you say that?

I'm talking about the team and it's needs not the player's name.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:09 PM

How quick yo forget. Hamhuis, our best Dman tried to lay a hit on Lucic and was out for the SCF. I guess Lucic's size and toughness had nothing to do with Hammer's injury.

Brown ran around and had his way with the Canucks and all of CDC was up in arms. Countless threads on Brown's ugly mug.

Only an ignorant NHL fan would say Canucks aren't soft. Even Vandermeer him self said the word around the league is Canucks can be pushed around and he could help in that department.

Every hockey fan in Canada knows Canucks are soft.


That's great.

Lucic and Brown also happen to be very useful players, the latter of whom managed to average a PPG in his team's Stanley Cup run.

I'm not saying the Canucks aren't "soft"; I'm saying that it means absolutely nothing. The only negative about waiving Vandermeer is that Barker becomes our #8 defenseman.

Edited by Intoewsables, 21 January 2013 - 01:09 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:11 PM

How quick yo forget. Hamhuis, our best Dman tried to lay a hit on Lucic and was out for the SCF. I guess Lucic's size and toughness had nothing to do with Hammer's injury.

Brown ran around and had his way with the Canucks and all of CDC was up in arms. Countless threads on Brown's ugly mug.

Only an ignorant NHL fan would say Canucks aren't soft. Even Vandermeer him self said the word around the league is Canucks can be pushed around and he could help in that department.

Every hockey fan in Canada knows Canucks are soft.


Almost every player in the league would agree.
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I haven't been a supporter of the Canucks for long. Mainly because firstly I know nothing about NHL and secondly ESPN America only started showing NHL 3 years ago.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:11 PM

That's great.

Lucic and Brown also happen to be very useful players, the latter of whom managed to average a PPG in his team's Stanley Cup run.

I'm not saying the Canucks aren't "soft"; I'm saying that it means absolutely nothing. The only negative about waiving Vandermeer is that Barker becomes our #8 defenseman.


Yeah you guys are right, this guy is not what Canucks need on the team.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:11 PM

It's funny how long it took for people to read the 2-way contract information posted way earlier in the thread. He does not have to go through waivers.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:13 PM

Yeah you guys are right, this guy is not what Canucks need on the team.



Yeah, fighting gets us far in the playoffs. Great point. We have other players who can fight who actually fill a role on this team. Vandermeer is a good #7 but you're treating this as if we've lost some superstar because of his "toughness". :lol:
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:17 PM

Yeah, fighting gets us far in the playoffs. Great point. We have other players who can fight who actually fill a role on this team. Vandermeer is a good #7 but you're treating this as if we've lost some superstar because of his "toughness". :lol:


Your argument about fighting in the playoffs is ignorant. Did you see one of the Canucks players doing to other superstars what Marchand did to Sedin? He slaped Sedin around like a rented mule. No you don't . You know why that little squid Marchand can? Because of the toughness on the Bruins.

Just ask the Canucks players how important they think it is to have a guy like Vandermeer on the team. It wasn't MG who thought about signing him, it was the players.

Bieksa (assistant Captain) went to MG and lobbied him to sign Vandermeer after consulting with other Canucks players.

Edited by WHL rocks, 21 January 2013 - 01:21 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:23 PM

It's funny how long it took for people to read the 2-way contract information posted way earlier in the thread. He does not have to go through waivers.

:picard:

Two-way contracts have nothing to do with waivers. Waiver eligibility is determined by age and professional (AHL/NHL) games played.

Two-way means one salary is paid if playing at the NHL level and a different salary is paid if playing at the AHL level.
http://en.wikipedia....wo-way_contract
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Kassian.... Taylor Pyatt 3.0

Lies. He's more of a Steve Bernier. Hopefully his talent level goes up so he can become like a Taylor Pyatt.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:27 PM

It's funny how long it took for people to read the 2-way contract information posted way earlier in the thread. He does not have to go through waivers.


You are mistaken. Please re check your source.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:33 PM

I would have sent Ebbett packing, first off if Schroeder is coming up then we don't need him and even if he isn't we don't need him and who in their right mind would clame Ebbett!?
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:34 PM

vandermeer has a 2 way contract right? Does that mean he can't be picked up? (i have no idea so it would be great if someone can clarify that for me)
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:35 PM

His Lack of Sterling play has prevented him from Joslin for a position on the Canucks. He should be Mullen his play over the next few weeks or else he and the horse he Rodin on will be Friesen for the rest of the season in Chicago instead of in the Hunt for the Stanley Cup in Cannata.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:35 PM

vandermeer has a 2 way contract right? Does that mean he can't be picked up? (i have no idea so it would be great if someone can clarify that for me)


Read a couple of posts in this thread and you would know. Miller did a pretty good job of explaining with link just a couple of posts above yours.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:36 PM

Hamhuis hip checked a bigger guy, Murray. He didn't get injured. It had nothing to do solely with his size.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:42 PM

Almost every player in the league would agree.

Yes, including Canucks players. That's why they lobbied MG to sing Vandermeer.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:42 PM

It's funny how long it took for people to read the 2-way contract information posted way earlier in the thread. He does not have to go through waivers.

:picard: This is how NHL games have made people understand two-way contracts. It only means he gets paid a different amount if he plays in the AHL. Because of his age he is waiver eligible.
http://en.wikipedia....wo-way_contract
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:43 PM

Yeah you guys are right, this guy is not what Canucks need on the team.



ya we sure wouldnt want a guy that laughs fighting Milan Lucic.... :lol:

exaclty what weve been missing. Kassian shouldnt be the top heavy
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:45 PM

Glad Schroeder will finally get his shot, should have happened 2 games ago, cant wait for Wednesday
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:46 PM

Big mistake.

Alberts and his 1.225 million cap hit should have been waived. Vandermeer brings the same things to the table, while being a very good fighter and half the cap hit.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

LA and Boston didn't win the cup because they were "tougher" than everyone else, but nice try.



Well they were certainly tougher than us...
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

ya we sure wouldnt want a guy that laughs fighting Milan Lucic.... :lol:

exaclty what weve been missing. Kassian shouldnt be the top heavy


Yeah, the same Lucic who single handedly destroyed Buffalo's season and bullied the whole team into submission. This guy laughs while fighting him and Canucks of all teams in the league don't need him. lmao
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:54 PM

Yeah you guys are right, this guy is not what Canucks need on the team.



After seeing what Kassian did to Eager last night I dont think Vandy is an absolute need.

We have what he can bring, and we need to change on the 2nd line, not a huge fan of potentially losing Vandy either but Schroeder is a bigger need and he is the odd man out unfortunatley.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:03 PM

I knew it would be vandermeer on waivers. Most people kept assuming it would be Barker.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:05 PM

I would have sent Ebbett packing, first off if Schroeder is coming up then we don't need him and even if he isn't we don't need him and who in their right mind would clame Ebbett!?

ebbett can play two forward positions so there is some value. he's not a go to guy in any situation though. schroeders gonna be a nice boost for the PP. anyway, i woulda liked to have seen barker sent to chicago. he needs to be playing IMO. Vandy does too to a lesser extent so hopefully he clears and brings some leadership and toughness to the wolves. If vancouver lacks grit and toughness, chicago DEFINITELY does too.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:09 PM

I knew it would be vandermeer on waivers. Most people kept assuming it would be Barker.


Yeah, it seems like management always makes the unobvious decision....

Lets just hope it's Schroeder coming up.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:11 PM

After seeing what Kassian did to Eager last night I dont think Vandy is an absolute need.

We have what he can bring, and we need to change on the 2nd line, not a huge fan of potentially losing Vandy either but Schroeder is a bigger need and he is the odd man out unfortunatley.


Usually I agree with you but not on this Smass. Kassian did get a couple of shots in before being spun around and thrown to the ice by Eager. He did draw blood but the fight was a tie.

After seeing Kassian's play last night I'd rather him be on the ice than sitting in the penalty box for 5 min fighting and 2 min for instigating.

Especially right now when we are missing 2 key forwards. I'd rather have Vandy as 7th D, agitate a couple of opposing stars and get into a scrap and lay the law down. Hopefully he could get one of the opposing team's better players to drop the gloves ie: Lucic and take him out of the game for 5 mins.

Edited by WHL rocks, 21 January 2013 - 02:15 PM.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:30 PM

Yeah, it was just a couple shots by Kassian, but one of them freakin' destroyed Eager. He left and never came back. It pissed Eager off so much he was trying to punch Zack in the back of the head.

That's why Kassian was waving his arms around. He knew the damage he did.

Now...When are people going to realize it IS important to have a heavy on your team. This league is not so PC that it doesn't matter. Just look at how we've been pushed around, and by who, in the last couple years.

In the NHL it will ALWAYS be important to have a guy who can stand up for his teammates. Anyone saying otherwise is just not paying attention.

The Canucks have been soft and I'm sick of it.

Someone should have beat down that punk Marchand. Someone should have absolutely killed Duncan Keith.

Kassian is a guy that can do it. But I agree, we have too many guys who haven't embraced that role. I would have loved to have Vandemeer here. One tough guy is good, two is way better. They can back each other up.

Anyway, with any luck he'll be back. That footage of him smiling and fighting Lucic should have been enough to keep him here in the first place.

I, for one, am sick of people taking liberties with our stars and not having to answer for it. Whatever you think about fighting, that is what's happening. No one should ever get away with touching one of the Sedins without answering the bell.

You don't believe me, just ask Gretzky, or for that matter, look up Lidstrom's comments about the subject from last year.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:30 PM

How long does the period to claim a player last?
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:33 PM

It's Vandermeer people. He's basically Andrew Alberts with above average fighting abilities.

Might as well send him to the Wolves until we actually nee him.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:50 PM

What's the new rule on re-entry waivers? Is there still such a thing? Or are teams off the hook for paying half a claimed player's salary?
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