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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

I don't care that he doesn't like Obama, but you do have to question why he would speak ill of the man during his pre-inauguration. Yes it's within his rights, but it still makes him come across as a bit of a tool.
In the end, its the organizers fault, as they probably should have done some research that would have led to them realizing that might happen.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:13 PM

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Every clock is right twice a day apparently .. I do not disagree with everything he says .. and he has every right to say it .. I just question his timing .. sort of like mocking the Apache with a rain dance when you are on their Reservation, or yelling ni**er while walking down a street in Harlem .. self serving "artists" are a dime a dozen .. I consider Obama and the Dems the better of two bad choices ..


I don't understand why you keep pushing the idea that Fiasco is an idiot of some kind. He is a vocal promoter of change to status quo, he was given a stage and expected to promote the status quo, he took advantage to spread his message. A message we both agree on. This is akin to criticizing the Occupy protesters for suing after being handled by police. The entire point is to defy the authority. His timing was impeccable. Look at the amount of attention he's generating for his message. I would wager you've never heard of this guy before this took place. Yet he's been nominated for three Grammies and is respected among Hip Hop listeners and critics (hardly a 15 minutes of fame type, by the way).

Obama is the better of two choices, but that's akin showing respect to a thief because the other guy's a murderer. Obama works to maintain the status quo, and his biggest challenge is keeping his supporters happy without addressing the underlying issues that ran the country into the mess it's in. America is dysfunctional, giving any kind of credence to the inauguration only works to further legitimize the system. Fiasco should be applauded for openly opposing the system, not called an idiot for doing it (while agreeing with his political message, no less).
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:20 PM


I don't care that he doesn't like Obama, but you do have to question why he would speak ill of the man during his pre-inauguration. Yes it's within his rights, but it still makes him come across as a bit of a tool.
In the end, its the organizers fault, as they probably should have done some research that would have led to them realizing that might happen.

Since when does the venue of criticism matter, unless it were at Obama's private residency? The most effective use of critical speech is done at the least convenience.. not most. Why do you think after pelting of Bush's caravan during his inauguration, and open protests/criticism, they immediately instituted "free speech zones" henceforth at events like this? Boy do some people not get it.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:22 PM

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:23 PM

Since when does the venue of criticism matter, unless it were at Obama's private residency? The most effective use of critical speech is done at the least convenience.. not most.


Just kind of rude to attack a guy during an event in his honour that you were invited too. Not a big deal or anything, like I said, just makes him look like a bit of a tool.
Fair enough though, as most things to do with politics do tend to throw manners and politeness out the window.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:30 PM

Here's the whole song. He may not be the first hip hop artist to say the things he says, but he's one of the few able to take his ideas into mainstream. Ideas that, if listened to are entirely agreeable for anyone who sees through the "veil".


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:33 PM

Yup. If the event organizers were that stupid to hire him knowing his brand of music. Personally I admire him for sticking to his "guns". All the media is doing is selling his music for him for free. Smart man.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:34 PM

Yup. If the event organizers were that stupid to hire him knowing his brand of music. Personally I admire him for sticking to his "guns". All the media is doing is selling his music for him for free. Smart man.


It's even better than his music has substance, something lacking in virtually anything getting airplay these days.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:36 PM

I don't understand why you keep pushing the idea that Fiasco is an idiot of some kind. He is a vocal promoter of change to status quo, he was given a stage and expected to promote the status quo, he took advantage to spread his message. A message we both agree on. This is akin to criticizing the Occupy protesters for suing after being handled by police. The entire point is to defy the authority. His timing was impeccable. Look at the amount of attention he's generating for his message. I would wager you've never heard of this guy before this took place. Yet he's been nominated for three Grammies and is respected among Hip Hop listeners and critics (hardly a 15 minutes of fame type, by the way).

Obama is the better of two choices, but that's akin showing respect to a thief because the other guy's a murderer. Obama works to maintain the status quo, and his biggest challenge is keeping his supporters happy without addressing the underlying issues that ran the country into the mess it's in. America is dysfunctional, giving any kind of credence to the inauguration only works to further legitimize the system. Fiasco should be applauded for openly opposing the system, not called an idiot for doing it (while agreeing with his political message, no less).


My quote.. "Senor Fiasco is either not the "brightest penny in the roll" or he is a self promoting tool" .. I choose "self promoting tool" ..
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:42 PM

My quote.. "Senor Fiasco is either not the "brightest penny in the roll" or he is a self promoting tool" .. I choose "self promoting tool" ..


He's a self promoting tool because he stayed true to his message when he was invited to play on a larger platform? He's done things over and over that have hurt his commercial opportunities. Get a clue before throwing around your uninformed opinions.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:43 PM

My quote.. "Senor Fiasco is either not the "brightest penny in the roll" or he is a self promoting tool" .. I choose "self promoting tool" ..


And that's a shame.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:43 PM

He's a self promoting tool because he stayed true to his message when he was invited to play on a larger platform? He's done things over and over that have hurt his commercial opportunities. Get a clue before throwing around your uninformed opinions.


I shall express my opinion any time I like .. who died and made you the great arbitrator?
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:44 PM

And that's a shame.


There is a time and place for everything .. IMO he abused his position .. I am obviously not so anti-Obama as some here ..
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:00 PM

Just kind of rude to attack a guy during an event in his honour that you were invited too. Not a big deal or anything, like I said, just makes him look like a bit of a tool.
Fair enough though, as most things to do with politics do tend to throw manners and politeness out the window.

Take lesson from Tim Thomas, refuse the invitation and put a bizarre rant on your Facebook page.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:14 PM

Take lesson from Tim Thomas, refuse the invitation and put a bizarre rant on your Facebook page.


And then get mad when people ask you about it.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:19 PM

I guess wardrobe malfunctions or getting your buddy to shoot you in the ass at a night club is getting old.

And in the end he might as well have said....derp derp......I'm an idiot. good use of your rights....lol

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:38 PM

I'm surprised the usual suspects here haven't accused him of racism!
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:55 PM

So many people here are so quick to judge, If you ever have taken the time to listen to Lupe's music, He's always been about rapping about positive things, touching subjects that actually effect society, He's actually one of, if not the only rapper that puts out good music, not every rapper is like lil' wayne and the crap you hear on radio...If anything blame the dude that hired him...props to Lupe, who refused to sign with JayZ because he wanted to have total control over his content.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:23 PM

Have a listen and try to understand, Love the fact that this dude kept true to himself no matter how big the event was or not...


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:25 PM

He rapped the same verse for 30 minutes, was asked to change songs, refused, and was promptly kicked out. Anyone singing any lyric would've been kicked out too in that situation. 'Alright, this sucks. Goodbye.'

Half an hour is extremely long for a singer to sing the same bloody verse, btw. What i don't get is why, as a rapper, he couldn't at least drop some freestyle anti-Obama rhymes during that half-hour? Not bored enough with himself? Or maybe the computer doing the rapping for him broke. Either way, Booooo!

Oh but i'm sure Lupe's concern for Gaza strip is legit and heartfelt. 'He gives a crap, but he ain't found it on no map?'

Grammy-nominated... I remember when that actually meant something. Actually, no i don't.




Did he seriously rap that same verse repeatedly for 30 minutes!?

I like Lupe... And that is hilarious if true.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:32 PM

Really? A 911 comment? What an idiot.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:03 PM

What a fiasco!!
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:14 PM

What a fiasco!!


He just sounded "loopy" to me ..
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:32 PM



read the lyrics if you dont want to listen
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:58 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPSrpv9lJBA

read the lyrics if you dont want to listen


It was this song and album that turned me on to Lupe.
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