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#31 Trebreh

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:05 PM

Sedins will retire here, once their contract expires i can see them signing a 2-3 years extension till Gaunce or whoever we have is ready to take over.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:13 PM

Maltby played a full season 4 times in his 19 year career. Henrik has played 82 games in 9 out of his 11 years in the NHL...Nuff Said. :picard:
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:08 PM

I think they already said after this contract they will only sign a one year deal. Wouldn't be surprised if they signed way under value to take a shot at the cup (if we have a chance).
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:21 PM

I believe including this season and next on their contract, they have 5 more seasons before they decide to return to MODO. I hope I am wrong and we see them on the team until they are 40, but I do see them leaving around 37-38
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:27 PM

While I do agree that they haven't scored at their regular pace to end the season last year and to begin this season (only two games), don't forget that the Canucks have only had one strong scoring line since the Sedins dominated points wise.

Kesler has suffered several injuries and his performance suffered due to them. Raymond had a poor year coming back from a severe back injury. And Booth never produced as hoped. You could argue that Booth played well and got his chances, but no one can claim that he put up the goal and point totals that Canucks fans hoped for.

This makes it easy for other teams to focus defensively on the Sedin line leading to a drop in totals. Furthermore, Kesler wasn't the dominant presence in front of the net on the pp that he was before his injuries.

The Sedins should have a couple more dominant seasons left in them before they are considered 2nd line forwards rather than receiving 1st line minutes.

The Sedins will never be traded so don't even consider that. They will retire Canucks or, I hate to even think about it, sign somewhere else as free agents.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:42 PM

The Sedin's play the type of game that won't be hindered by age. They are rarely hit hard enough to cause injury and play a keep away game that will keep them producing for a long time. The type of people I would worry about are Kesler, Booth, Kassian etc.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:13 AM

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:23 AM

Their game is not based on speed or physicality which are the two leading means in early retirement either due to age or injury. They are finesse, efficiency based players. Those types seem to last forever in the league. It is not hard to shut down the Sedins come playoffs because teams know that we truly only have one line capable of winning a series. There is still a piece missing from the top 6.

Personally i hope that Kassian can keep up the high level of play he has shown through 2 games allowing Burrows to play with Kesler and Booth. Kesler and Burrows are fantastic together and that says a lot as Kesler is not good with many people.

Sedins are not going anywhere. They have spent their career here and deserve to retire here. This isnt NHL video games where you trade off whatever you want, whenever you want. There are politics and morality involved. You trade the Sedins and no star will want to play here as they see it as a sign that the GM doesnt care about the biggest names on a team.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:00 PM

OMG the topics on this board are really inane lately. Swedes retire early? Do some research. There are so many Swedish players that continue to play into their late 30's.

Geez, even Sami (38) is still playing and look at the injuries he's had. Swedes are notoriously physically fit and the Sedins are just that. When they retire, I suspect it will be because they lack the enhusiasm, not the physical ability.

I also think that the dip in their numbers last year was due to the SCF hangover. I fully expect their numbers to improve this year. Better than a pt per game season.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:18 PM

Lol change your name, you're a disgrace to number 66

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:32 AM

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I think this is a very good point and should be talked about. The Canucks are not going to win a Cup with the Sedins at the helm. They put up numbers during the reg season but disappear into the ether come playoffs when it really matters. Champions step up in big games under pressure...the Sedins shut down. Opposing teams toy with them. Now's the time to trade them too while they still have some value.

We need some big, skilled Canadian bodies in those positions.


I'm tired of this crap.

Tired of the "Sedins disappear in the playoffs".
Stats don't lie, as far as points go:
Henrik:
74 in 99 playoff games.
792 in 940 regular games.
Only a 10% difference.
Daniel:
67 in 96 playoff games.
758 in 906 regular games.
Only a 15% difference.
Sorry, you are all wrong - they don't "disappear"...10-15% difference isn't "disappearing".
By comparison, Crosby has 13% lower production, Ovechkin 17% and Thorton 23%.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:07 PM

I'm tired of this crap.

Tired of the "Sedins disappear in the playoffs".
Stats don't lie, as far as points go:
Henrik:
74 in 99 playoff games.
792 in 940 regular games.
Only a 10% difference.
Daniel:
67 in 96 playoff games.
758 in 906 regular games.
Only a 15% difference.
Sorry, you are all wrong - they don't "disappear"...10-15% difference isn't "disappearing".
By comparison, Crosby has 13% lower production, Ovechkin 17% and Thorton 23%.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:55 PM

I'm tired of this crap.

Tired of the "Sedins disappear in the playoffs".
Stats don't lie, as far as points go:
Henrik:
74 in 99 playoff games.
792 in 940 regular games.
Only a 10% difference.
Daniel:
67 in 96 playoff games.
758 in 906 regular games.
Only a 15% difference.
Sorry, you are all wrong - they don't "disappear"...10-15% difference isn't "disappearing".
By comparison, Crosby has 13% lower production, Ovechkin 17% and Thorton 23%.

Thanks for posting the facts. CDC is so full of morons that perpetuate the myths conjured up by other morons.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:11 PM

I'm tired of this crap.

Tired of the "Sedins disappear in the playoffs".
Stats don't lie, as far as points go:
Henrik:
74 in 99 playoff games.
792 in 940 regular games.
Only a 10% difference.
Daniel:
67 in 96 playoff games.
758 in 906 regular games.
Only a 15% difference.
Sorry, you are all wrong - they don't "disappear"...10-15% difference isn't "disappearing".
By comparison, Crosby has 13% lower production, Ovechkin 17% and Thorton 23%.

How dare you post facts! This is the CDC after all where one does not post actual truths but rather a place where one posts inaccurate misconceptions, lies, media influenced stereotypes or at the very least misinformed opinions.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:29 PM

These guys look like they are very tired. You can just see it from their faces. Given the propensity for Swedes to retire early, I wouldn't be surprised if they are out when their contracts are over. I think this is the 4th year in their 5-year contracts. Perhaps you could sign them to another 2 year deal worth 6mil each, but I don't know if they will have the legs to keep up with the pace by then. The team should be built to win now. With Weiss, Volpatti, Ebbett etc., it doesn't look like they have a truly competitive team. They need some toughness with skills (think of somebody like Kirk Maltby).


Weiss? The Florida Panther who is about to become a UFA? Or did you mean Weise?
And Volpatti? The dude we waived last season who was claimed by Washington?

Smoke more weed before posting, seriously.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:14 PM

I'm tired of this crap.

Tired of the "Sedins disappear in the playoffs".
Stats don't lie, as far as points go:
Henrik:
74 in 99 playoff games.
792 in 940 regular games.
Only a 10% difference.
Daniel:
67 in 96 playoff games.
758 in 906 regular games.
Only a 15% difference.
Sorry, you are all wrong - they don't "disappear"...10-15% difference isn't "disappearing".
By comparison, Crosby has 13% lower production, Ovechkin 17% and Thorton 23%.


More supporting evidence for you bud:



Hank scored the longest Canuck playoffs OT goal ever.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:20 PM

Why can't Hank shoot more often:


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:23 PM

Holy passes!


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:42 PM

Kudos to all those in this thread supporting Henrik and Daniel

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:45 PM

Weiss? The Florida Panther who is about to become a UFA? Or did you mean Weise?
And Volpatti? The dude we waived last season who was claimed by Washington?

Smoke more weed before posting, seriously.


Look at the date he posted this.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:46 PM

I'm tired of this crap.

Tired of the "Sedins disappear in the playoffs".
Stats don't lie, as far as points go:
Henrik:
74 in 99 playoff games.
792 in 940 regular games.
Only a 10% difference.
Daniel:
67 in 96 playoff games.
758 in 906 regular games.
Only a 15% difference.
Sorry, you are all wrong - they don't "disappear"...10-15% difference isn't "disappearing".
By comparison, Crosby has 13% lower production, Ovechkin 17% and Thorton 23%.


Thank you! This is what I've been saying!
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:52 PM

they'll be here until 40+


Agreed!


The twins may have peaked offensively, but their overall game likely will keep improving nd with different roles and more responsibility next season under Torts this will only show the overall game they have as being top players in the League.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:07 PM

There's no reason the Twins can't take less money and be solid 2nd liners on this team later in their career similar to Selanne.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:52 PM

I read the title as;



Sedins - Hong Kong?




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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:18 PM

These guys look like they are very tired. You can just see it from their faces. Given the propensity for Swedes to retire early, I wouldn't be surprised if they are out when their contracts are over. I think this is the 4th year in their 5-year contracts. Perhaps you could sign them to another 2 year deal worth 6mil each, but I don't know if they will have the legs to keep up with the pace by then. The team should be built to win now. With Weiss, Volpatti, Ebbett etc., it doesn't look like they have a truly competitive team. They need some toughness with skills (think of somebody like Kirk Maltby).


wow.

The subject/topic is fair for discussion, but your points are really lame. They look tired in June? Really.... I wouldn't mind if you posted this during the season, when they were actually playing. Because then we can all judge by looking at their games. And you seem to pull facts out of no where.. Alfredsson was still playing last season and he was 40. Lidstrom retired when he was 42. Sundin retired when he was 38.

Also, I love how you spend all your post saying Sedins are tired old and slow and then you suggest we should rebuild with someone like Maltby whos 40 years old.
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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:10 AM

holy timewarp, batman!

Oh wait, it's just a necro...

CDC at its finest: can't remember what the date is.
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Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:08 AM

They will become 60 point players. Good in the regular season but not great, and completely invisible come playoff time.
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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:23 PM

Weiss? The Florida Panther who is about to become a UFA? Or did you mean Weise?
And Volpatti? The dude we waived last season who was claimed by Washington?

Smoke more weed before posting, seriously.


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 02:29 PM

really tough one.

they peaked at 29-30.

usually a player has a good 5 years after they peak before they no resemble their usual selves. Most players peak around 26 or 27, making 31 or 32 the last year they can truly be close to the same player.

So... they can probably last to 34 or 35 before tailing off by that logic. But lots of exceptions both ways.

I don't see them as the same players they were 2 years ago, but I don't think it is wrong to expect another 2-3 years of top play from them. Henrik seems better than Daniel at this point?
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