roland Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Kopitar didn't "overpower" him, he simply made a move to avoid the check. Is there anybody that's ever played the game that hasn't had that happen to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck hero Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 according to gillis, he wants the canucks to be younger and bigger... so raymond is too small.. and really should 't be back in the line up. if raymond is in the canucks then gillis reputation for bringing players in to vancouver is much worse than we can imagine..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Shirokov Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Raymond's a good hockey player. He puts up points, and defends well. He gets way too much flack around here. For all you people wanting him gone....just one question....who's gonna replace him? We don't have any young players, and I'd rather not pay David Clarkson 4.5+ million a year for pretty much the same production. There simply aren't that many available competent hockey players available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Higgins is our 2nd/3rd best defensive forward, have you seen him on the penalty kill and how manny times he's singlehandedly held the puck in the oppositions zone. Unlike Raymond Hansen can actually utilize his speed by averaging atleast 1 breakaway a game, sure he has trouble finishing but he is undoubtably one of our best forwards . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zejono Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 just send him to florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 If we are able to keep him and Hansen together (not on the top 6) then i'd definitely keep him, those two are great together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Not that I am defending Raymond, but by that logic we will keep one guy and that would be Luongo. Everyone was invisible in the playoffs. Raymond has always had potential, it is a shame he has only had one good year with a 50Pts season. He played much better last year but I think he is definitely a guy that can be replaced. Hansen is (to some extent) like a better more grittier Raymond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Boddee.....probably one of the least credible posters here, Loves Mason Raymond, the rest of us with a clue never want to see him in a Canucks jersey ever again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 according to gillis, he wants the canucks to be younger and bigger... so raymond is too small.. and really should 't be back in the line up. if raymond is in the canucks then gillis reputation for bringing players in to vancouver is much worse than we can imagine..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Well on that basis, out go the Sedins and Burrows because they are 5 years older than Raymond. But I suppose Burrows IS 2LBS HEAVIER AND 1INCH TALLER. Hey maybe Raymond can put on 3lbs in 5 years. The trouble with Gillis is he opens his mouth and spouts drivel. Nothing he says makes sense or is even credible. Teams don't get younger and bigger.............they get better in the playoffs. That's all that matters. If it takes an ageing Iginla or a small Parise then that's what it takes. If Gillis had the sense of a stick insect he would realise there is virtually nothing that will make any appreciable difference in our prospects and certainly no one approaching the calibre of Raymond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 On that basis you're seriously comparing Raymond to iginla and Paris's while trying to sound more credible and of less drivel than Gillis? What gillis has said is he believes the core which is the Sedins are good. The Sedins also have NTCs and produce in the playoffs. They're staying like it or not. Raymond is not a core player. Gillis's word for non core players was "periphery". It's the periphery players he wants to get younger, bigger and cheaper, hinting most likely to in house players on the rise. So when we are discussing what's good for the team for the future, you can't argue back with Iggy and Parise because A.) they're way better players than Raymond will ever be and B.) they'll never be Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride the red Pony Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Did you see how as soon as he was "mucked about" with changing line mates, his production fell. That's called "staring a gift horse in the face" When he is on a stable line with two guys who can pass he scores. Maybe, just maybe, the new coach will see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 What about Raymond??? Seroiusly..?? Did you watch the last half season and playoffs? He's a ghost when it matters, and has little to no chance of remaining a Canuck. His fate was pretty much set once Higgins re-signed. Raymond would do much better playing in the East. He has some skill that can be of value, but he is not the kind the Canucks need to help take them to the next level. I am happy that he did show signs of life for the first half season, and hopefully he generated some interest and we can swap his negotianting rights for anothers, or perhaps to move up a few spots in rounds 3-5 to get a player they have targeted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffHockey Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Says the guy who posted this........ /topic/342965-the-johnny-canuck-line-vandermeer-pinizzotto-sestito/page__view__findpost__p__11282391">The Johnny Canuck Line : Vandermeer-Pinizzotto-Sestito 06 April 2013 - 12:25 AM Our Top 9 is looking money once Kesler returns home. so this is a fourth Line i want to see to compliment all the skill and speed. Vandermeer-Pinizzotto-Sestito yes. call it the johnny canuck line. the makeover line. the kiss the Kumbaya Canucks rep goodbye line. in the tradition of Ryp, Gino, Tiger. The Return of Tough Canucks, I would like to see this as a Fourth Line Option for seek and destroy missions, targeting the other teams skilled players with thunderous bodychecks and smashing the opposing teams Defence into the ground, this line would play enough minutes to damage key assets (cleanly) 1) Sedin-Sedin-Kassian 2a) Higgins-Roy-Hansen 2a) Raymond-Kesler-Burrows Vandermeer-Pinizzotto-Sestito Three top lines getting key minutes and the Nuclear Option Standing by if any clowns want to get froggy with it and goon a Sedin. And then this.............. If Gillis takes this same core into next year it will be hard to remain a loyal fan. Not bad for a member since April 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BenDrinkin Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 He's an OK player, but disappears in the playoffs. Can any of his supporters provide any proof of the contrary? We are only interested in playoff wins, thus, why would we keep him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 He's an OK player, but disappears in the playoffs. Can any of his supporters provide any proof of the contrary? We are only interested in playoff wins, thus, why would we keep him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockNroLLa. Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 canucks wont sign him, unless he comes cheap...see him signing with the lames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bite me Burr Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 I hope he signs with an Alberta team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bite me Burr Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 How long must we suffer watching Raymond "hustle" around the perimeter doing nothing? He brings nothing to the game outside of a token PK role. What is the point of dressing this guy anymore? Waive him, trade him... anything. There are no positives to his game that make the team better for having him. I have had enough of this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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