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#1 nuck luck

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:53 AM

I was hoping to try something a little different and bring the minds of CDC together to try and figure out the riddle in the middle.....

It's easy for any of us to claim or denounce any trade rumors...we all do it and we all have been blindsided by previous trades. I hate reading people's posts on impossible trade scenarios so this might edumacate me and others....If we analyze it a little further ...we might have a pretty solid hypothesis?

I can't say I follow every team closely and there's a lot more people on CDC who follow the NHL a lot closer than I do.... I think (together) we might be able to deduce who the potential team could be?

Gillis gave us a tasty little morsel recently:


“We have a potential deal in place with one team that has to do something with another player that they have — and it’s not who anybody thinks it is — and so we have to wait. (But) we’ve been offered packages that don’t fit what our plan is, what we need,” said Gillis.

Let's try and figure out the scenarios:

1) He is talking about another team trying to trade, buyout or deal with one of their goalies to make room for Lou. So, I would deduce that this has got to be a goalie who is not performing with a high cap. A goalie that we wouldn't want as a backup. A goalie that they are 'hoping' will turn things around....if not, the "wait" is over.

I'm still thinking it's the Flyers...but NYR & Detroit are another possibility! There are plenty of players on these teams that I would love to see on our second line... One thing with Philly and Detroit, they are in desperate need of puck moving D-men! They could kill two birds with one trade if they dealt with us....Lou & Ballard :) Everybody has been thinking about the Flyers so it wouldn't be a surprise... I had never thought about Detroit and NYR, this would surprise me.

2) Another team is trying to dump salary for Lou and it's not a goalie.... Which teams have an abundance of forwards?

3) Which teams have a current RFA that they are having difficulties signing?

4) Which teams will have serious cap issues next year and will be forced to trade, buyout or lose players because of it?

5) Which teams have rookie forwards that are playing great and would be able to replace their top 6? The team could be waiting to see if that rookie is the real thing before they make a move...

6) Which team has a top 6 out or that just returned from IR? Maybe they had a replacement for him that is no longer needed because the injured player is 100%?

7) Any other scenarios? Because Gillis said "that they have...", I'm assuming that he's already playing on that team.

Out of all the teams that could fit the bill in the above scenarios....which team's goalie is not performing or retiring soon? Who needs an upgrade? and couple this with, which of these teams have an abundance of forwards?

Edited by nuck luck, 22 January 2013 - 09:57 AM.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:59 AM

How is this trivia?

Q: What book written in 1939 by EV Wright does not contain a single letter "e" in its text? This is trivia.

Edited by Scott Hartnell's Mane, 22 January 2013 - 10:07 AM.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:02 AM

Flames maybe? Probably not though.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:11 AM

How about we don't trade Lou...
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QUOTE (bugmo @ Jul 23 2009, 12:09 AM) And you are an idiot who can't see things for the way they are. It's people like you who make it seem okay for the canucks to have a non playoff making team every year. Gillis supporter go jump off the Patullo.

This was said to me and it makes me laugh everytime I read it.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:15 AM

Rangers and Red Wings? C'mon now...

He also says " - and it's not who anybody thinks it is - " yet there have been Philly rumours floating around for a week. Why then would it be Philly? And why couldn't you just post this in the pinned Luongo Trade Discussion thread?
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:16 AM

And why couldn't you just post this in the pinned Luongo Trade Discussion thread?


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:40 AM

maybe he's thinking modo. noone expects that
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:41 AM

I think this option is intriguing:

"3) Which teams have a current RFA that they are having difficulties signing?"

This makes me think of Colorado and their attempts to re-sign Ryan O'Reilly, who they obviously want back pretty bad. Once they re-sign him they have Stastny - Duchene - O'Reilly.

My guess is if Colorado could only have only 2 of the 3 Stastny is the odd man out (and he carries a cap hit of 6.6). Could we see Colorado take Luongo as an upgrade on Varlamov who is an RFA after the 2013/14 season? If they feel they can move him somewhere at a later date then Luongo might have some appeal to them.

Maybe this leads to Stastny coming to Vancouver in a deal? The obvious problem is that his cap hit may make this unrealistic after this season when the cap decreases... Unless this turnover MG has mentioned brings our cap down significantly:

Edit: MG also said its someone no one is talking about, I don't think anyone's talking about the Avs? Also, being a division rival may make this undesirable on second thought...

Pass it to Bulis@passittobulis
"Next year I think we’ll have more turnover, because the cap changes & we have younger players we feel will be ready to make the step." --MG

Edited by Drummin' Canuck, 22 January 2013 - 10:56 AM.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:21 AM

I was hoping to try something a little different and bring the minds of CDC together to try and figure out the riddle in the middle.....

It's easy for any of us to claim or denounce any trade rumors...we all do it and we all have been blindsided by previous trades. I hate reading people's posts on impossible trade scenarios so this might edumacate me and others....If we analyze it a little further ...we might have a pretty solid hypothesis?

I can't say I follow every team closely and there's a lot more people on CDC who follow the NHL a lot closer than I do.... I think (together) we might be able to deduce who the potential team could be?

Gillis gave us a tasty little morsel recently:


“We have a potential deal in place with one team that has to do something with another player that they have — and it’s not who anybody thinks it is — and so we have to wait. (But) we’ve been offered packages that don’t fit what our plan is, what we need,” said Gillis.

Let's try and figure out the scenarios:

1) He is talking about another team trying to trade, buyout or deal with one of their goalies to make room for Lou. So, I would deduce that this has got to be a goalie who is not performing with a high cap. A goalie that we wouldn't want as a backup. A goalie that they are 'hoping' will turn things around....if not, the "wait" is over.

I'm still thinking it's the Flyers...but NYR & Detroit are another possibility! There are plenty of players on these teams that I would love to see on our second line... One thing with Philly and Detroit, they are in desperate need of puck moving D-men! They could kill two birds with one trade if they dealt with us....Lou & Ballard :) Everybody has been thinking about the Flyers so it wouldn't be a surprise... I had never thought about Detroit and NYR, this would surprise me.

2) Another team is trying to dump salary for Lou and it's not a goalie.... Which teams have an abundance of forwards?

3) Which teams have a current RFA that they are having difficulties signing?

4) Which teams will have serious cap issues next year and will be forced to trade, buyout or lose players because of it?

5) Which teams have rookie forwards that are playing great and would be able to replace their top 6? The team could be waiting to see if that rookie is the real thing before they make a move...

6) Which team has a top 6 out or that just returned from IR? Maybe they had a replacement for him that is no longer needed because the injured player is 100%?

7) Any other scenarios? Because Gillis said "that they have...", I'm assuming that he's already playing on that team.

Out of all the teams that could fit the bill in the above scenarios....which team's goalie is not performing or retiring soon? Who needs an upgrade? and couple this with, which of these teams have an abundance of forwards?


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:28 AM

Rangers and Red Wings? C'mon now...

He also says " - and it's not who anybody thinks it is - " yet there have been Philly rumours floating around for a week. Why then would it be Philly? And why couldn't you just post this in the pinned Luongo Trade Discussion thread?


This is just meant to talk about something different instead of complaining about the first two games of the season. If your not interested than just move on....and I did make a post about the possibility of Philly being interested in a trade, I got a lot of reactions like this :picard:

A) You quoted "...and it's not who anybody thinks it is.." - So do you think the Rangers and Wings are interested?

B) I quoted "I'm still thinking it's the Flyers...." - It could be a trade for a player we all thought would never be involved in a trade, "...and it's not who anybody thinks it is..."

C) I never mentioned anything about trading Lou, I'm discussing what GMMG said.... and surprise surprise...it's about the Canucks! This is why I didn't pin this in the Trade Loungo thread.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:30 AM

How about we don't trade Lou...


I like having both of them here...and after the first two games, I'm not disappointed.

Back to your comment, I didn't mention anything about trading Lou?
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:32 AM

LOL yeah 'cause the Rangers want to spend $12.2m in cap on 2 goalies.

Or we want to bring back an extra $1.5m in cap for our goalies.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:34 AM

I think this option is intriguing:

"3) Which teams have a current RFA that they are having difficulties signing?"

This makes me think of Colorado and their attempts to re-sign Ryan O'Reilly, who they obviously want back pretty bad. Once they re-sign him they have Stastny - Duchene - O'Reilly.

My guess is if Colorado could only have only 2 of the 3 Stastny is the odd man out (and he carries a cap hit of 6.6). Could we see Colorado take Luongo as an upgrade on Varlamov who is an RFA after the 2013/14 season? If they feel they can move him somewhere at a later date then Luongo might have some appeal to them.

Maybe this leads to Stastny coming to Vancouver in a deal? The obvious problem is that his cap hit may make this unrealistic after this season when the cap decreases... Unless this turnover MG has mentioned brings our cap down significantly:

Edit: MG also said its someone no one is talking about, I don't think anyone's talking about the Avs? Also, being a division rival may make this undesirable on second thought...

Pass it to Bulis@passittobulis
"Next year I think we’ll have more turnover, because the cap changes & we have younger players we feel will be ready to make the step." --MG


I'd love one of the Av's young guns...
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:34 AM

How is this trivia?

Q: What book written in 1939 by EV Wright does not contain a single letter "e" in its text? This is trivia.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:44 AM

He's going to Chicago because I was stupid enough to take Corey Crawford in my pool.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:25 PM

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