King of the ES Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Bernier won't be Luongo. Luongo is and will always be better. He was far better at Bernier's age than Bernier is, and it's not even comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Unlike Bernier, Schneider has played well enough to overtake the elite goaltender he is playing behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Dealing an overpaid, but young, budding players, such as Ellerby would make sense, if the Panthers are set on acquiring Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Respectfully, I do not believe the Canucks are looking at defensemen, impending UFA's, average small body forwards or any other spare parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eretz canucks Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 empires were built and destroyed in less time than it has taken to trade Luongo (seemingly) if we have learned anything about the canucks-nothing comes easy-Bure took 6-7 months to be traded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I'm not sure why a guy like Ellerby - or any D, for that matter - would be targeted in a trade. 5/6 of our D are signed until the next ice age, and Chris Tanev appears to be holding pretty firmly onto that last spot. Unless a guy like Ballard would be going the other way, but I'm pretty sure that the Panthers would not be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Yes. But if you can get a dynamic, potential franchise dman like Gudbranson, you do it. Gudbranson is a right-handed dman, and he would help. He's young, and could play at the top pairing one day. I don't know too much about Petrovic...high end talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 A step down from Gudbranson, but a big, physical defenseman that shoots right. Three things that the Canucks could use more of... Edit: Here's a talent analysis from Hockey Futures:" Petrovic is a physically dominant defender with a booming shot. Although he can move the puck out of his own zone, it is the physical game that Petrovic enjoys. He hits with authority, will drop the gloves with anyone, and punishes opponents in the corners. His offensive game is developing, and he has been adding weight and strength." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Luongo at 24 was also far better than Schneider was at 24, does that mean that he is and always will be better than Cory, too? At 24, Luongo was facing 40 shots per night as Florida's goaltender. Neither Bernier nor Schneider were lucky enough to have that opportunity. Situational advantage for Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xur Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Bozak is going to demand way too much for his new contract, and there is likely far better centres available via trade (players like Stephen Weiss, who is going to get the amount he deserves, not what he THINKS he deserves). So, no, long term and short term, that is a terrible deal. Pretty sad that all you do is eat up "insider" drivel in hopes of sounding as if you know anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Lucky enough to face forty shots.. WTF r u saying. He got the starting job because he's freaking elite. Goalies like luongo don't grow on trees. Luongo is and always will be better than Bernier and Cory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I'm not sure why a guy like Ellerby - or any D, for that matter - would be targeted in a trade. 5/6 of our D are signed until the next ice age, and Chris Tanev appears to be holding pretty firmly onto that last spot. Unless a guy like Ballard would be going the other way, but I'm pretty sure that the Panthers would not be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 That is true, he's made stars out of Vanek & Pominville already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 A step down from Gudbranson, but a big, physical defenseman that shoots right. Three things that the Canucks could use more of... Edit: Here's a talent analysis from Hockey Futures:" Petrovic is a physically dominant defender with a booming shot. Although he can move the puck out of his own zone, it is the physical game that Petrovic enjoys. He hits with authority, will drop the gloves with anyone, and punishes opponents in the corners. His offensive game is developing, and he has been adding weight and strength." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 ^^^^^^ Good post, oldnews. I agree with it all. It may even be a minor hold-up in the sense that Tallon maybe willing to include some lower tier guys like Shore and Petrovic along with Clemmensen and a roster player but that he and MG are having a battle of wills regarding whether it is someone like Matthias/Goc or a cap dump in Upshall. Shore as well, though I don't think he is quite ready to be a major factor for a post season run this year, looks very similar to Kesler at the same developmental curve. There is a lot to like about that. Petrovic, or even Ellerby, are cut from a mold that the Canucks have not had in a D prospect in a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 ^^^^^^ Good post, oldnews. I agree with it all. It may even be a minor hold-up in the sense that Tallon maybe willing to include some lower tier guys like Shore and Petrovic along with Clemmensen and a roster player but that he and MG are having a battle of wills regarding whether it is someone like Matthias/Goc or a cap dump in Upshall. Shore as well, though I don't think he is quite ready to be a major factor for a post season run this year, looks very similar to Kesler at the same developmental curve. There is a lot to like about that. Petrovic, or even Ellerby, are cut from a mold that the Canucks have not had in a D prospect in a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I think you have nailed a possible holding point there regarding the roster player - Matthias and Goc are very good value for their contracts and in the crucial C spot, whereas Upshall is harder to manage and fit in - I personally would take Upshall if there were a little sweetener added to the deal, or possibly if the deal included both Goc or Matthias and Upshall and returned a roster forward like Manny whom Tallon would only have to pay to season's end... he cut a similar deal taking Samuelsson and Sturm... I think another holding point may have been Florida's injury situation, which has been fairly dire to start the season and left them little option to move anyone off their roster - that may change a bit as they get players returning and can also better assess their young players' readiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Depth? Flexibility? Ballard would not have to be moved in the same deal or even this year at all to have acquiring Ellerby make sense fir the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 You're going to sit Ellerby in the press box for the entire year, unless somebody gets injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks fan in chicago Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Luongo and a second rounder for Kadri and a first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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