Canuck Surfer Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Lou and Jensen to Washington. Forsberg, Orlov and Ribeiro ? If not Orlov cuz too much ask, Alzner... Why does Washington bite? Currently have two goalies below .900 save %, could bring up Jensen right away. They're missing a decent winger or they would not have Ovechkin playing his off wing. They're also not gelling with Ribeiro as a top 6 centre even as much as he is playing well; might as well get that goaltending and challenge MoJo to step into a role as 2C behind Backstrom. Jensen ain't Forsberg, but a great concession and they also leave themselves cap space to fill any other holes! (Currently $6.3 under cap). edit note; last game MoJo was also playing wing with Backstrom and Brouwer. Sort of wastes Backstrom as a top line centre. He would come back to form if playing with Ovechkin again... Open to feedback as to adding a goalie in return? That puts us 6 deep at centre for a play off run with Hank, Kess, Ribeiro, Schroeder, LapDog and Manny. It provides $5 mill in cap relief next year (Ribeiro is a $5 mill rental), upgrades Jensen to Forsberg and scores us a great young D! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Hamhuis - Edler Garrison - Bieksa Ballard - Tanev Our defense is playing great right now so it isn't a concern. A guy like Brouwer or a top six center is someone we should target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Neuvirth Mojo for Lu and Raymond is the offer... Would you guys accept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Im stated my opinion to say Tom Wilson is a risk at this point. Just like you have no problem saying your opinion on several topics on here. Surpised your interested in Tom Wilson considering didnt you make a thread that wasnt the greatest towards Kassian, are they not similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Brouwer Laich Holtby Luongo Raymond Schroeder 2nd Sedin Sedin Burrows Booth Kesler Hansen Brouwer Laich Kassian Higgins Lapierre Weise/Volpatti Hamhuis Bieksa Edler Tanev Ballard Garrison Schneider Holtby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus099 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Actually I was a friend of the familly...does that help you at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Forsberg, Alzner, and a few picks or prospects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Brouwer and Laich both have tons of playoff experience and have shown up when it counts, both are big and can score timely goals. Schroeder and Raymond have been fantastic, against terrible teams. Once we face mega top lines in the playoffs you really want Raymond and Schroeder being the shut down 3rd line? Maybe Schroeder has a place on the 2nd wing, and so does Mason Raymond. That doesn't matter at this point, we probably have 5 potential 2nd line wingers to go with Kesler and Booth, what we don't have is veteran in their prime big gritty scoring for our 3rd line. Schroeder, and Raymond are both expendable in this situation. We upgrade these two into Brouwer and Laich. You have to work with what you have and essentially we have a 2nd line in development of Schroeder and Raymond, it doesn't play the way we will need it to with Kesler back. It is the same scenario as Hodgson being on the third. It may not look good on paper but when our 4th line is Higgins/Lapierre/Weise and our third line is Brouwer/Laich/Kassian You will see the difference it makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 With ovi on the block, could it be conceivable that a lui for ovi trade be possible? With spare parts going both ways... With oveckhin it would be a fresh start and would ease the Sedins off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia2006 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 With ovi on the block, could it be conceivable that a lui for ovi trade be possible? With spare parts going both ways... With oveckhin it would be a fresh start and would ease the Sedins off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Brouwer and Laich both have tons of playoff experience and have shown up when it counts, both are big and can score timely goals. Schroeder and Raymond have been fantastic, against terrible teams. Once we face mega top lines in the playoffs you really want Raymond and Schroeder being the shut down 3rd line? Maybe Schroeder has a place on the 2nd wing, and so does Mason Raymond. That doesn't matter at this point, we probably have 5 potential 2nd line wingers to go with Kesler and Booth, what we don't have is veteran in their prime big gritty scoring for our 3rd line. Schroeder, and Raymond are both expendable in this situation. We upgrade these two into Brouwer and Laich. You have to work with what you have and essentially we have a 2nd line in development of Schroeder and Raymond, it doesn't play the way we will need it to with Kesler back. It is the same scenario as Hodgson being on the third. It may not look good on paper but when our 4th line is Higgins/Lapierre/Weise and our third line is Brouwer/Laich/Kassian You will see the difference it makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Schroeder is not "expendable" we are talking about a 22 year old who is showing alot of upside and that he is already an NHL player. That's not something you trade for a one-shot thing, or risk it all move like acquiring both of them would be. Especially for a team with such a bare cupboard like we have. Brouwer is redundant, right now when healthy Higgins in on the 4th line, he is a fully capable 2nd/3rd line guy. If we feel the need to send JS down (even though I wouldn't) we could just trade Raymond for a center that could play on the 3rd or use Lappy. We don't need them (Brouwer especially) and I doubt they would give us Laich, and maybe not even Brouwer either. We have depth, unless we can add a good 2way center that is a for sure upgrade on Lappy, we should just shoot for all futures with this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertuzziJr 2.0 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Got to be honest, The idea of a Luongo and Booth plus for Ovechkin plus gets me excited. Having lines like the lines below would give us a few lines that can give us really great scoring depth Sedin - Sedin - Burrows/Kassian Kesler - Schroder - Ovechkin Hansen - Lappy (washington player) - Kassian Normal 4th line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 We don't have depth in the bottom 6. Raymond and Schroeder will not perform the way they are now in a playoff setting. If anything, Luongo Raymond 2nd Laich Hotlby Orlov I know you like Schroeder but he's too small, let's upgrade our size and experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 That Shore/Petrovic combination is sorta comparable to my Frattin/Finn combination, although I would take Petrovic over Finn and Frattin over Shore. (Sorta the best of both) But good post. Wouldn't mind those two, I really like Petrovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOL_dre Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 There is no way GMMG is dumb enough to trade for a 9 Million plus dollar left winger. It just doesn't work with the current cap let alone when the cap goes down next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 There is no way GMMG is dumb enough to trade for a 9 Million plus dollar left winger. It just doesn't work with the current cap let alone when the cap goes down next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 ".. We are going to make good decisions, were not going to do anything short term, were not going to blow anything up, we like the people here, were just going to be smart about how we do it" - George McPhee So it doesn't sound like they will give up anything massive, I don't see Forsberg, Kuznetsov, or any top piece coming our way, but if the reference to making decisions is what I think it is, I think they will look into ti more, and maybe someone like Orlov is on the table, and they aren't scared to trade 1st's. They have little time to make a move, are they really going to just let this season go? This is great for us right now as the Caps are dead last in the league. Edit: Lebrun said, "They need saves, I'm sorry, but Holtby and Nuevirth have been terrible" He also added that they want to keep with there vision of getting younger and to keep core young pieces in place, also he said they don't seem interested in moving the 1st. Maybe I was wrong about the first, but for Luongo, perhaps Orlov could be had, he is good but he isn't the absolute cream of the crop (Kuznetsov, Forsberg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 As much as I'd have liked to see Frattin in a deal, the rest of the pieces from Toronto are certainly hard to get to thrilled about - not much there that fits aside from their high picks. Aside from Petrovic being one of the prospects I'd most like to see, Shore also has the positives of being a two way center who is right at that NHL ready point - you can just never assume the health of players, and having another quality center imo is more important than a RW and OHL defenseman in the Leafs proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He is like Pahlsson, just a tad less defensively IMO, and a bit more offense. He is still defensive center but he can puts some points up now and then. Is he a big upgrade on Lappy though? Offense the same, Lappy is more physical, both are solid defensively. I just don't see a major upgrade. That's why I say if we can get a good two-way guy who is a clearly a nice upgrade, then I would look into it, if Goc is in the deal as one of the major assets, I would look at something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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