Italia2006 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 The difference between Finn and Petrovic long term isn't really anything. They both project to be the same thing, 3rd or 4th D-man, just 2nd pair guys. They just play difference styles. Petrovic brings more physicality, while Finn is a more reliable and fluid player. Offense is probably the same, or maybe Finn gets the edge in due to his advantage in skating. Finn is just not as far along, I like Petro more, but Finn could very well turn out to be the same. I know what kind of player he is. He is like Pahlsson, just a tad less defensively IMO, and a bit more offense. He is still defensive center but he can puts some points up now and then. Is he a big upgrade on Lappy though? Offense the same, Lappy is more physical, both are solid defensively. I just don't see a major upgrade. That's why I say if we can get a good two-way guy who is a clearly a nice upgrade, then I would look into it, if Goc is in the deal as one of the major assets, I would look at something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 That's why I think we make a 3 way deal. We need a young effective player that can help us out now. O'reilly in a 3 way deal. Colorado are thin on players and I'm sure they would listen. That is the other reason why I think this deal is taking so long. There will be more than one team involved in any Luongo deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Ok Smashian - don't see much point of going any further with you on this. Petrovic and Finn are quite different type players and Petrovic is a righthanded guy as opposed to Finn, Goc imo is not comparable to Pahlsson or Lapierre who, as much as I like both of them, aren't really two way players - simply not bottom six guys in the 30-40 point range while still getting the defensive zone starts and facing the toughest competition. I love Lapierre and Malhotra but I see them as ideal fourth liners who give us a depth advantage - Goc imo is the type of player who does the same on the third line - on the offensive side, the difference between potential 20 and 40 point players. IMO Goc is more comparable to Higgins and Hansen in the sense of the defensive and offensive balance to their games. The Canucks don't really need a major roster asset in a Luongo deal - the bulk of the return imo is best left in the form or prospects/futures, both for cap reasons and adding some organizational balance to the depth of prospect pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia2006 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I believe there will be more than one team involved in the Luongo deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia2006 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 O'Reilly would be ideal wouldn't he? A very well rounded young center. Luo to TO Gardiner to the AVs O'Reilly, Frattin to the Nucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I understand what Goc is, but there just isn't quite as much offense there as you think, not at the level of Higgins or Hansen, more like Lappierre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eretz canucks Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Excellent post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 That is the most sensible deal I've heard and I don't think it's too far off. We may have to add a bit to the deal but it would help out now and down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Gardiner isn't going anywhere, reading a few threads on HF only confirm my opinion. He is so underrated here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eretz canucks Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I like it- TO may be willing to part with Gardiner now that they have a glimpse of life without him and it's not so bad. They have Reilly coming up next year anyway. I'd send Higgins or Raymond to Avs or TO whoever feels most hard done by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I like it- TO may be willing to part with Gardiner now that they have a glimpse of life without him and it's not so bad. They have Reilly coming up next year anyway. I'd send Higgins or Raymond to Avs or TO whoever feels most hard done by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 O'Reilly would be ideal wouldn't he? A very well rounded young center. Luo to TO Gardiner to the AVs O'Reilly, Frattin to the Nucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 That is as close as it gets to being a perfect trade Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Booth - Kesler - Schroeder Frattin - O'Reilly - Kassian Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen Raymond, Malhotra, Volpatti, Weise Lovin' it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 O'Reilly would be ideal wouldn't he? A very well rounded young center. Luo to TO Gardiner to the AVs O'Reilly, Frattin to the Nucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Noone should even be talking about this until something actually happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Compliance Buy-out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 O'Reilly would be ideal wouldn't he? A very well rounded young center. Luo to TO Gardiner to the AVs O'Reilly, Frattin to the Nucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I like it but still not realistic. We'd need to add more. Raymond to the AVs, 2nd to TO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I don't know Stamkos, a trade like that might have flown in the 80s or 90s, or mmmmaybe more recently if Burke was involved, but in this day and age? oldnews' proposal was already a little out there but I think with Lu's contract a 3-way could be the way to go. This has made me reflect upon the fact that the day of the blockbuster, 3+ team trade has faded in tandem with the increasing restrictions of the salary cap era. There's just not that much room these days to float so many players around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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