tonimator#19 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Luongo, edler, raymond for Pietrangelo, Berglund, Elliot, 1st rounder We have too many left handed dman and edler just looks lost on the right side. Edler and Pietrangelo have similar size and skills with Edler having the better resume. Pietrangelo is also an rfa this year so that lowers his value a little bit. Berglund can play center and kesler can move to the right wing where he can use his shot more Offseason we get rid of ballard and dont resign higgins to make room for resigning Piet and Berglund dream trade but unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Lou is two steps up on Bure, one on Hodgson in his approach to wanting out. But he still wants out. You're making it sound like the way it was with Pavel Bure back in the day. Bure wanted nothing to do with us anymore. Luongo loves his teamates and loves the city. Luongo just wants to play and be a starter. If Luongo really wanted out of here, he would not play and sit out until he was traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beluga Whale Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Just because St.Louis' goalies are off to a bad start, they're trading for a goalie now? Some of you have pretty bad memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobopan Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 yeah theres not a chance in hell we go thru this entire Luongo trade ordeal to have him stay here..its not gonna happen. I think both sides are on agreement that ship has sailed. Its a matter of when not if. There's pro's and cons to having him stay here the rest of the season. Yes he's a hell of an insurance policy and yes he's outplayed Cory this season but at the same time i do think this has an effect on Cory's mindstate. I don't think its a matter of the pressure of being the number 1 guy but while Luongo's here he's still left looking over his shoulder. He knows he has 1 bad game and he's back on the bench. It might be wishful thinking but maybe once Luo is gone we can finally have most of the fanbase get behind 1 guy as we wouldnt exactly have anyone else to turn to. As well Luongo's value is probably as high as its going to get right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Just because St.Louis' goalies are off to a bad start, they're trading for a goalie now? Some of you have pretty bad memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I'm cool with keeping both goalies for this year unless a team overpays for one. If we're in need of a top six forward and a team is desperate for a D man maybe we can deal Ballard for one if he continues to play well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xur Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Gillis said on his interview with That's Hockey that he would consider keeping Luongo if Roberto approached him and asked to stay. I take from this 2 things. 1 Gillis acknowledges Luongo's skill and would keep him if Luongo actually wants to stay, and 2nd that Lu must have asked for a trade, because Luongo wouldn't have to tell the GM he changed his mind and wanted to stay with his NTC unless he had asked for a trade. Not that it really matters, but since no one has come out and publicly said Luongo asked to be traded, the CDC trollers like to shove that down people's throats as a fact that Luongo didn't ask for a trade. Gillis has now unofficially confirmed that Luongo leaving was in fact Luongo's choice, not Gillis'. That said it is unlikely that Luongo will remain a Canuck for very long. What may end up happening though is that Luongo is due the season following next to supply a list of 5 teams he is willing to go and that his NTC is not valid for those 5 teams. If Luongo is saying no to everyone but Florida and it is not allowing a trade to go through, having that mandatory list of 5 will obviously untie Gillis's hands in this matter. If indeed Luongo is saying no to the trade destinations, as has been reported, but never confirmed. So a possible 2 more years with a Schlongo duo in the net is fine by me, and it looks like the goalies are willing to live with it. Schpiderman will still get his chance to be the number 1 on the Canucks, but it may not happen right away. And if Luongo is so set on not sharing his starting position he will have to open up to going to possible destinations that he would normally refuse. The other problem with moving Luongo is the return of course. It may be hard to attract high end talent here knowing they may very well end up on the 4th line, even though they could be a first line player on other teams. We are seeing obvious strengths in the speed line, the Alex Sedin line is producing again, and seeing the opportunities generated by Kassian and Kesler, its hard to imagine these players won't be a permanent fixture. Higgins seemed to do well with that line, but of course I think Boothe will be better. It really only leaves us with the need for a need for special teams improvement (which could be done at the management level, not the player level), the 4th line and defense. Then if you consider Lappy and Higgy with Volpatti on the 4th, that is still not a major concern. By next year Lack should be ready to play in the NHL and that puts our needs down to a top defensemen. And lets be honest, if you got a top defencemen, you don't trade him unless they ask for a trade. And they are only going to ask for a trade if they are on a crappy team. And Luongo doesn't want to play on a crappy team. So IMO this leaves prospects and picks. And there is not a smorgasbord of proven prospects in the mix that could be moved. It is possible that in the end, the best deal that we could hope for Luongo that is actually attainable is 14 picks over 2 years. It was rumoured that gillis asked Burke for this. I think it may have been 15 picks, can't remember. In the end it is most likely that Luongo will be here for at least another couple seasons, and Schneider too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 ^^ Gillis, AV and Luongo have all confirmed in the past that Luongo asked to be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Gillis said on his interview with That's Hockey that he would consider keeping Luongo if Roberto approached him and asked to stay. I take from this 2 things. 1 Gillis acknowledges Luongo's skill and would keep him if Luongo actually wants to stay, and 2nd that Lu must have asked for a trade, because Luongo wouldn't have to tell the GM he changed his mind and wanted to stay with his NTC unless he had asked for a trade. Not that it really matters, but since no one has come out and publicly said Luongo asked to be traded, the CDC trollers like to shove that down people's throats as a fact that Luongo didn't ask for a trade. Gillis has now unofficially confirmed that Luongo leaving was in fact Luongo's choice, not Gillis'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningWild Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 There are 30 starting NHL goaltenders in the league. Teams have only played approx 13 games this yr, 7 of those 30 starters have been injured already (or 1/4 of the leagues starters). Those are ridiculous numbers. Can anyone imagine what those numbers will look like in say .... 20 more games? I'm really glad Gillis has decided to keep both goalies. If you're a team going for the Cup this yr (NYR, Bos, Chi, etc etc) - you're grade A screwed if your goalie goes down. The chances of your goalie going down are incredibly high this season. Canucks are pretty much the only team who isn't screwed if a goalie gets injured this yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhuis2 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Not happening, but might as well have some fun . Schneider+Bieksa for Pietrangelo or Luongo+Tanev for Pietrangelo Never going to happen, the kid is an absolute star and should be a perennial Norris candidate for his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allkill326 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Not happening, but might as well have some fun . Schneider+Bieksa for Pietrangelo or Luongo+Tanev for Pietrangelo Never going to happen, the kid is an absolute star and should be a perennial Norris candidate for his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Not happening, but might as well have some fun . Schneider+Bieksa for Pietrangelo or Luongo+Tanev for Pietrangelo Never going to happen, the kid is an absolute star and should be a perennial Norris candidate for his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 How about Schneider + Higgins for Johansson + 2nd + Alzner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Not happening, but might as well have some fun . Schneider+Bieksa for Pietrangelo or Luongo+Tanev for Pietrangelo Never going to happen, the kid is an absolute star and should be a perennial Norris candidate for his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklas Jensen Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Schneider Schroeder for Gudbranson and huberdeau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertuzziJr 2.0 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I'm cool with keeping both goalies for this year unless a team overpays for one. If we're in need of a top six forward and a team is desperate for a D man maybe we can deal Ballard for one if he continues to play well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 So two Schneider trade threads, both locked. When will people learn Schneids won't be traded??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winthecup Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 There are 30 starting NHL goaltenders in the league. Teams have only played approx 13 games this yr, 7 of those 30 starters have been injured already (or 1/4 of the leagues starters). Those are ridiculous numbers. Can anyone imagine what those numbers will look like in say .... 20 more games? I'm really glad Gillis has decided to keep both goalies. If you're a team going for the Cup this yr (NYR, Bos, Chi, etc etc) - you're grade A screwed if your goalie goes down. The chances of your goalie going down are incredibly high this season. Canucks are pretty much the only team who isn't screwed if a goalie gets injured this yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonimator#19 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 The Canucks scored 8 goals in 7 games against the bruins.. are we still all forgetting that series? Also we couldn't score at a high enough rate against the kings last year. Our problem is scoring !!!!! When we play another physical team like boston, or L.A the sedins will be shut down once again and then we'll have to count on our secondary scoring. Gillis needs to get a top 9 forward in exchange for luongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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