allkill326 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 You do realize that the Canucks have won just as many Stanley Cups as the Leafs since 1969. You do realize that the Canucks have had more city riots since that time.............................what exactly are you trying to prove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I say wait and if Higgins doesn't pick it up, and Raymond plays the way he has, maybe offer Higgins for Clutterbuck. To Minnesota: Chris Higgins, Kevin Connaution To Vancouver: Cal Clutterbuck, Tyler Graovac 2 birds with 1 stone for us, as we would bring in more energy in physicality in Clutterbuck aswell as Tyler Graovac who has been playing very well with Brendan Gaunce. They get Higgins who aside from this slump has been very good for us, and it would add more scoring perhaps in the area Clutterbuck would play, with still maintain some grit and two way play. And then a defensemen (which is probably the weakest part of their organization) who will likely be capable of cracking there line-up next year. As for us we can target Dimitry Orlov in a Luongo trade to Washington and that would give us an upgrade on Connaution for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allkill326 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Would hate to move Higgins. Would prefer to move more youth - but they're not worth as much (sorry, couldn't help myself). Connauton, Weise. Clutterbuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Truth. For all the time spent ripping Gallagher and Botchford here in Van, we're still cowed into hating the Leafs by CBC and the TO media with their blowhard opinions. The team on the ice today and this season has been competent if not excellent, and watching Carlyle patrol the bench was impressive after years of Wilson. Burke is gone, and much as we (I'd) like to see Nonis cough up every decent prospect for Lu, he's not caving to pressure. Toronto might be making the first serious effort at a turnaround in years. Personally I don't want to be one of the opposing fans hating them blindly, but I'm not surprised others here are. As always though, please try to think critically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allkill326 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I don't know if it's about hate as much as it is about humour (at least that's my personal angle) - why hate them for their mediocrity? And if they couldn't take the humour, they probably wouldn't be so self-depracating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Would hate to move Higgins. Would prefer to move more youth - but they're not worth as much (sorry, couldn't help myself). Connauton, Weise. Clutterbuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Oh yeah, Minnesota might need Luongo, since Harding is their starting goaltender, and Harding is diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allkill326 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I think they'll try to re-sign Backstrom and shed cap elsewhere, but in any event, they're on the hook for his 6 million this season and near the cap - they'd have to move him if they had any interest in Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 That won't get the deal done. The whole deal is prognasticated on whether Raymond continues this and if Higgins picks it up, cause if not that would leave him expendable with the play of Kassian, Raymond and Schroeder. Even with a healthy line-up he is on the 4th line. Plus he is an upcoming UFA so I doubt we re-sign him with the young players who will push for spot. Weise won't get the deal done. Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but if your not they do have Backstrom and Harding is still able to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool story bro Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I don't know if it's about hate as much as it is about humour (at least that's my personal angle) - why hate them for their mediocrity? And if they couldn't take the humour, they probably wouldn't be so self-depracating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Well, Backstrom does not have nearly as much playoff experience as Luongo does. Also, with Backstrom set to retire within a season or two, a viable option is to acquire Luongo, which only requires the Wild to give up a second-liner, a pick, and a prospect at maximum. If Minnesota strives to acquire a solid, starting goaltender, I'm sure other GMs will try to pry one or two of the offensive stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 That's the longest link I've ever seen for 1 little picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allkill326 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Backstrom is retiring? News to me. He's only a year older than Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 ? Higgins expendable? Clutterbuck is an RFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SynysterGates Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 You do realize that the Canucks have won just as many Stanley Cups as the Leafs since 1969. You do realize that the Canucks have had more city riots since that time.............................what exactly are you trying to prove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eretz canucks Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 You do realize that the Maple Leafs have been very fast starters the prior two seasons, right? So if everything has to be status quo doesn't that mean they will go on a long winning streak right now? Do you also realize that Vancouver had 1 more playoff win than TO last year? There's only one winner each year, the rest are losers, and Vancouver was a loser just like TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Would love to see the Canucks and Leafs complete a trade around Luongo and Kessel. Almost identical cap hit wise. The Canucks could throw in Booth(for some cap room approx 4 m @ trade deadline.) Scrivens could back up Cory tilll Lack was healthy. A 2nd Line with Burrows, Kessel, Raymond would be a huge upgrade until Kesler returns. As mentioned in other thread, I think looking at Burrows as a shutdown C, would greatly free up Kesler when he returns. I believe having cap space @ deadline will be huge this year as teams attempt to dump players in anticipation of next years Cap. JMO.. Kessel 5.4 Scrivens 600 K Luongo 5.33 Booth 4.25 Possible lines.... Sedin Sedin Kassian Raymond Kessler Kessel Higgins Burrows Hansen Volpatii Schroeder Weiss (Lapierre,Malhotra,Ebbet) Edler Garrison Hamhuis Bieksa Ballard Tanev Schneider Scrivens/Lack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eretz canucks Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 schroeder has no place in that lineup, Lappy is a better 4C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 How old are you, 15? The "depression" happened 80 years ago. Please tell me you're not referring to 2008/2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Id rather see Schroeder play 4th line minutes than see Weise hog the puck and fall everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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