theredbaron77 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Here's my proposal luongo and bieksa for coturrier simmonds and a 1st. Any thoughts I'd rater do ballard but quite sure philly is looking for a top 4 dman with their troubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Gardiner has alot of offensive upside but has played 1 season for the leafs. Question becomes, is he the type of player that: 1. Can fit in, in the west? 2. Can fit in on the nucks? 3. Is more than a flash in the pan? In regards to: 1. I think he is a very good offensive player but question if he could take the grinding play in the west. He is not the best defensive player and he's not physically big (ie uses size). That being said, he is offensively talented and coachable to probably get past this. 2. Worry here is AV. He doesn't let the dancers dance and the singers sing. He wants everyone to play 2 ways. How long before he busts this kid? I like AV, I like his strategy but that can have an impact of the value of a player to us... 3. Don't believe so, but there is potential he is. He did get prime ice time on a crap leafs team that let him play his style. Inflated stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Lol you got owned smashian. And btw you are not being objective and realistic,- You said you wouldn't trade raymond and were all up on him the other day. Good thing your not GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 If our offense continues to have consistency issues, then I can't see a scenario where we keep both goalies by the trade deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I responded to your claim,yes, that Gardiner is an uber-impressive top 4 who is far too valuable to be traded for Luongo. I've heard your claim enough times - that he's untouchable - that I thought I'd ad some context to his achievements as a rookie - things you've decided not to look at because they don't qualify your parroting of all the hype from HF boards that you bring to this thread. Thanks for the unsolicited advice Smashian - disregard the underlying numbers all you want - I'll disregard your suggestion to talk to objective Leafs fans haha. Mine to you is to respond to what people actually say - I haven't seen the quote you allege - truth is you put those words in my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 This is what happens when we play 3 in 4 nights and there is no trade rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I won't be able to supply the quote, as the Luongo thread it was in (3.0 or 4.0) is sense long gone, but you do nothing but bash the leafs anyways, clear Anti-Leaf bias. Also your wrong, I never said he too valuable to be delt for Luongo, I have maintained that they would never do it as he is way to important too there team. Would we trade Zack Kassian or Nicklas Jensen or Chris Tanev in a deal for say.. Vincent Lecavalier??? Absoluetly not. You obviously don't understand the concept of importance which is why I suggest you go to HF and propose alot of the terrible deals on there that you have on here and gauge other fans reaction. But you won't...?? Because...??? You know I'm right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 It's easy Smashian - google my name and that quote - and those threads aren't gone - they're right here for your reference - they're just locked - but the truth is you're simply wrong fabricating something - those were your words not mine - so cut the BS. Why would we trade Kassian, Jensen or Tanev when we don't have a greater, gaping need between the pipes? Good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 ^ Why don't you two knock it off and send each other personal messages if it is so personal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Lame ass excuse, as when we played the Sharks last night it was their 3rd game in 4 nights. B.S if you ask me, also it`s early in the season, so it`s really not an excuse. at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 We need a snoring emoticon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Apparently in the absence of King, we've turned on our own... Smashian and oldnews, you two are well past the intelligent debate stage and into the 'yelling over the internet' stage. And it's not even about Luongo - might be time to take a step back and see what the heck you're arguing about. Anyway, after a pretty darn good night from Luongo tonight, and Gillis not saying the volume of check ins with other teams has increased but rather the quality of those check ins are a little more interesting, there's a chance we do see a deal at some point soon. No rush on Gillis' part, as he's made clear a few times, but we'll see how much of a rush other teams are in pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xur Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yeah it sucks there was some really good threads started today about Luongo but since this thread exists they were locked, so I come here to continue the conversation. And all I see is pages and pages of you morons arguing with each other about nothing that has to do with Luongo. Instead of moderators locking redundant threads, maybe they could ban all you that come here to argue with one another. This thread should not be named Luongo Trade Thread it should be named the argue with old news and smashinkassian about stuff that has NOTHING to do with Luongo. You guys ruin this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yeah it sucks there was some really good threads started today about Luongo but since this thread exists they were locked, so I come here to continue the conversation. And all I see is pages and pages of you morons arguing with each other about nothing that has to do with Luongo. Instead of moderators locking redundant threads, maybe they could ban all you that come here to argue with one another. This thread should not be named Luongo Trade Thread it should be named the argue with old news and smashinkassian about stuff that has NOTHING to do with Luongo. You guys ruin this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Bond Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 lp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xur Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Sorry, it was too harsh. It is just frustrating that threads involving relevant Luongo updates and conversations are locked and we are told to come to the only thread on this site were people aern't talking about Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 This team just has never been the same since the cup run. Sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Why are people talking about Kessel all of a sudden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUFFY Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 after last night's choke to LA it looks as though Lu is past his "best before" date so that means his price is going down!! Has he actually recorded a win this season? Don't think so. I am very surprised he is suited up if Gillis is serious about trading/dumping him!! Injuries to Lu could very well be a double edged sword to this team!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey2Dope Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 after last night's choke to LA it looks as though Lu is past his "best before" date so that means his price is going down!! Has he actually recorded a win this season? Don't think so. I am very surprised he is suited up if Gillis is serious about trading/dumping him!! Injuries to Lu could very well be a double edged sword to this team!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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