sampy Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 No, I think he is playing another year in the collegiate league; which is right up Gillis' alley. He likes when kids are focused on being educated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skead Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 After he's done playing collegiate hockey(which I believe ends before the nhl season does) can he play with the Canucks and not count against his entry level contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 After he's done playing collegiate hockey(which I believe ends before the nhl season does) can he play with the Canucks and not count against his entry level contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia2006 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 He's not currently on an ELC, signing one would mean he's turning pro and would not be eligible in the NCAA. What people fail to realize is the Schultz situation, wherein he was drafted by the Ducks, finished his degree, and then went on to wait for free agency - basically from April to late June of his senior year. It could be a very similar situation with Bjugstad, being that even if he was traded here he could wait out his senior year and sign wherever he wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skead Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 He's not currently on an ELC, signing one would mean he's turning pro and would not be eligible in the NCAA. What people fail to realize is the Schultz situation, wherein he was drafted by the Ducks, finished his degree, and then went on to wait for free agency - basically from April to late June of his senior year. It could be a very similar situation with Bjugstad, being that even if he was traded here he could wait out his senior year and sign wherever he wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Nick was drafted in 2010; he would need to wait another 2 years to exercise the same option as Schultz did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I hope you mean 2 years including this one. Bjugstad is in his 3rd year now, after his 4th his RFA eligibility would be void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 That's kind of scary isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Not terribly scary. Any draft pick could do that same thing or refuse to sign. There doesn't seem to be any warning signs where this situation is more risky than any other prospect. There is not a lot of reason to refuse to sign with a team like Vancouver which is a great city and a competing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I want Weiss+ a prospect (Bjugistad, or a 1st rounder and Drew Shore) for Luongo + Raymond. I think Florida is really our only trade option right now. Their goal tending has been awful and they are at the bottom of the standings. With the new draft lottery their is a chance they could not even get that good of a draft pick, so why not get Lu. Markstrom isn't the stud that many thought he was going to be. Florida needs goal scoring and that's all Raymond can contribute albeit he's rather streaky with it. Weiss would be a good addition now and I think he would re-sign for less here. The prospect would be nice to, I want to re load a bit so when the Sedins retire their is still something to watch in Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skead Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 This is right. If he doesn't sign by June 2014 he's an FA. That's a big risk if hes the centrepiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia2006 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 There is of course the Hodgson argument, that being does a centre like Bjugstad mind lining up behind Sedin and Kesler? To make this team it's either 3C or back in the minors. He could sign elsewhere, be given top minutes right away, and the ability to reach his rookie bonuses which we can't guarantee here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucks fan555555 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 You would have to think if this deal ever went through Schroeder would have to be a part of the deal. We also have Gaunce in our system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 There is of course the Hodgson argument, that being does a centre like Bjugstad mind lining up behind Sedin and Kesler? To make this team it's either 3C or back in the minors. He could sign elsewhere, be given top minutes right away, and the ability to reach his rookie bonuses which we can't guarantee here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I don't think that is anywhere near the worry. Hodgson came into the system a couple of years too early. Bjugstad would most likely spend a year in the minors, then start on the 3rd kine in the NHL and work his way up to the top line ver 2-3 seasons. That puts us 3-4 years out before he is ready for the top 6 just as natural development. That times about perfectly with when the Sedins/Kesler are getting to the point of getting old enough to start taking smaller roles or even retiring. Also, Bjugstad seems more suited to move through the lineup anywhere.. rather than Hodgson who really needed to be a top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 So who would we get from Washington?? Neuvirth & Hendricks?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucks fan555555 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 This makes sense from the organization's perspective, and is a good development plan. From the individual perspective, theoretically would Bjugstad rather sign here, for base ELC and bonuses based on performance, or sign in a place like say Calgary, which has a notorious lack of depth at centre. On our depth chart he could make the team, and be limited to a 3rd line role without the ice time to be able to reach his performance bonuses. That or be relegated to the minors, where he would receive the lower figure of a 2 way ELC (80k), without his bonuses. If he were to sign with a team shallow at centre like Calgary, he could be seeing top minutes and the chance of reaching performance bonuses without the risk of being moved to the AHL. In the latter scenario he could be making up to 3.8m (max rookie) in his first year, or be making 80k if he didn't make the team and was sent to the Wolves. The easy decision for Bjugstad would be to sign with a team in need of a centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stexx Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 there is so few players that go through college that opt for the scenario that justin schultz did i dont see it as a big concern. the canucks would be smart to talk to bjustad before agreeing to a deal to see what his intentions are. if he is planning to return for this 4th year or turn pro at the end of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 there is so few players that go through college that opt for the scenario that justin schultz did i dont see it as a big concern. the canucks would be smart to talk to bjustad before agreeing to a deal to see what his intentions are. if he is planning to return for this 4th year or turn pro at the end of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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