Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 So the back-to-back Presidents trophy winning team suddenly forgot how to play hockey? To the point where their dominant goaltender had worse stats than most of the starters for all the weaker teams? And then, the team magically got significantly better for Schneider, so that instead of letting in 3-4 goals per game in, he let in only 1 in regulation for 3 straight? The best goaltending statistics of the playoffs? Well then, I guess what you're saying is that the team plays better in front of Schneider in the playoffs than it does for Luongo... ...which is yet another indication that we should trade the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Which is an emotional response, which is not surprising, given your utter hatred and resultant inability to have any sort of objectivity when discussing the Toronto Maple Leafs. This deal would effectively exchange Keith Ballard and Mason Raymond from today's roster for Dion Phaneuf & Phil Kessel. Yeah, highway robbery for Toronto, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Your back to back President's trophy team is a Moneyball, regular season team. It does not translate into great playoff performance. Hopefully having mixed it up a bit by having Kassian. On te top line, some more toughness, a healthy Kesler and Booth will do wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Dude, give it up. The world is not out to get the Vancouver Canucks. TSN does not root against the Vancouver Canucks. Nor do NHL officials, as much as I'm sure you believe that they do. Canuck fans really are the "Quebec" of NHL contingents, aren't they? Just remove the soother and the tin foil hat, please. Anyway, it is fairly obvious that Cory Schneider is not happy with the situation. Nor is your homeboy Luongo, who did not expect to be here (and he didn't expect to be here because he had asked to be moved). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Don't care for this trade if they're going to play on the Canucks. However, what might the Canucks get for Kessel and Phaneuf if Gillis flipped them to other teams? regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 First I thought you were a media conspiracy nut job. Then came .2 cents .7 cents, wtf? Stopped reading. I specifically asked for a link that Canucks had declared CS the starter and Luongo the backup. Not what ever you posted. Was same announcement made in game 6, game 7, and game 8 of the 2012/13 season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Hey King - your crush on the Leafs is cute. What's stopping you from taking your affections over there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Trade Schneider And Luongo. Cannata is our new starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 And unlike Raymond, with Kessel we'd have a floater in our lineup taking up twice the cap hit and giving up twice as many scoring chances as he generates. His uninspired, patchwork performances would grow very old in a big hurry. Even Leafs fans, who are probably as tolerant as any, have had enough of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Probably similar to what Toronto would get if they sent them to other teams? Why would we trade 5 valuable pieces to get assets we don't even want? regards, that was dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 A floater. The guy's averaging just under 5 SOG/game. That should bode well for his corsi score, should it not? Really silly to call him a floater. Nope, not an afterthought, but for the purposes of this trade, this year, you're effectively swapping out Raymond & Ballard for Kessel & Phaneuf - a massive upgrade. Schroeder's looked good and it'd hurt to lose him, and it'd also hurt to lose Schneider (though 1 guy clearly has to go), but it would be nuts to say no to this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Dude. Calm down. There never was a quotable statement regarding a request for trade, a statement regarding who's number one, or even Schneider's emotional state regarding the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Do you know what's good for Kessel's corsi? The fact he is one of the Leafs facing the weakest quality of competition on that team - and getting a high percentage of offensive zone starts. What does that tell you, when 'top line' players typically face the opposition's best. Where the Leafs are concerned, that falls upon their best forwards - Grabovski and MacArthur. I'd take Kadri over Kessel in a heartbeat and never look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 So the back-to-back Presidents trophy winning team suddenly forgot how to play hockey? To the point where their dominant goaltender had worse stats than most of the starters for all the weaker teams? And then, the team magically got significantly better for Schneider, so that instead of letting in 3-4 goals per game in, he let in only 1 in regulation for 3 straight? The best goaltending statistics of the playoffs? Well then, I guess what you're saying is that the team plays better in front of Schneider in the playoffs than it does for Luongo... ...which is yet another indication that we should trade the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Yes. Quality of Competition. Another "advanced" which just averages opponents' corsi scores - which is based almost entirely on SOG. Hockey is not baseball. You can't isolate singular events in a hockey game like you can in baseball - pitcher v. hitter, no matter how hard these Bill James wannabes try. You're ignoring fundamental things like goals and points, in exchange for these numbers dreamed up by hockey bloggers. OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Why are people hyping the goalie thing?Vignault has been win and your in since day 1.For the record I agree with him,if you want to rack up wins why would you do it any other way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 VAN Byfuglien Kane WPG Schneider Ballard Raymond Schroeder 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everybody Hates Raymond Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Strombone @strombone1 Being a backup is a lot funner than I anticipated......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 VAN Byfuglien Kane WPG Schneider Ballard Raymond Schroeder 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eretz canucks Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Pshaw. No one. Why would you be interested in Luongo when you could be like Toronto and have a goalie who generally lets in 1 bad goal every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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