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[Discussion] Roberto Luongo Trade Thread 5.0

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Hockeyyinsiderr has weighed in....

Hockeyy Insiderr@HockeyyInsiderr

Names mentioned by #Canucks as possible return for Luongo: pick+Neuvirth+ 1 of following: Brouwer/Kuznetsov/Green/Alzner/Forsberg

Make that 2-3 of the following and I'll take the trade (have enough d-men, so bring in some talented forwards)...

Luongo, Raymond, Malhotra, Rai and a conditional pick for Neuvirth, rights to Kuznetsov, Brower, Laich and Forsberg

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Any agent is basically a hired mouthpiece. They're hired to represent you.

If you don't think Schneider is thinking what Liut is saying, you are in deep denial, my friend.

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Hockeyyinsiderr has weighed in....

Hockeyy Insiderr@HockeyyInsiderr

Names mentioned by #Canucks as possible return for Luongo: pick+Neuvirth+ 1 of following: Brouwer/Kuznetsov/Green/Alzner/Forsberg

Make that 2-3 of the following and I'll take the trade (have enough d-men, so bring in some talented forwards)...

Luongo, Raymond, Malhotra, Rai and a conditional pick for Neuvirth, rights to Kuznetsov, Brower, Laich and Forsberg

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Did Schneider say he was getting impatient? No. Diid his agent say he was getting impatient? Yes. There's a big difference in that King, something you should know.

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Did Schneider say he was getting impatient? No. Diid his agent say he was getting impatient? Yes. There's a big difference in that King, something you should know.

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Hockeyyinsiderr has weighed in....

Hockeyy Insiderr‏@HockeyyInsiderr

Names mentioned by #Canucks as possible return for Luongo: pick+Neuvirth+ 1 of following: Brouwer/Kuznetsov/Green/Alzner/Forsberg

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From Elliote Freidman's 30 thoughts this week:

14. I was fortunate enough to have a lengthy conversation during last season's playoffs with Lou Lamoriello of the Devils. One of the things he said was, as a GM, "If you have time, use it." I think of that now with the Vancouver Canucks. People say, "They've got too much money tied up in their goalies." It will be an issue next year, for sure, and it could be an issue this year if the Canucks want to add something. But until you have to do it, Lamoriello's advice is to be patient because you never know when your circumstances will change. Plus, the two of them do a great job of handling it.

15. Canucks goaltender Cory Schneider does not have no-trade protection in his new contract. But if you think Vancouver asked a lot for Luongo -- and don't forget that, seven months ago, both the team and Luongo thought it was best to separate - Canucks GM Mike Gillis can't change the plan unless both sides are 100 per cent comfortable with it. And it's certainly possible Luongo is playing so well now because he's relaxed.

16. A question we'll never know the answer to: If Luongo was traded before Jamie Benn re-signed with Dallas, would we have seen an offer sheet?

17. Undoubtedly, the Gillis/Laurence Gilman eastern excursion was to scout potential trade partners and free-agent targets. The two conferences don't see each other this season, so you don't get that close-up look if you stay home. Don't forget, the Canucks pitched Cody Hodgson to Washington last season for John Carlson. Hard to see Capitals GM George McPhee parting with the young defender, even with that new hairstyle.

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agent (ˈeɪdʒənt) dictionary_questionbutton_default.gifn 1. a person who acts on behalf of another person, group, business,government, etc; representative

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There is also such thing as misrepresentation. Again, the agent is just doing his job in voicing what he believes is in the best interest of his client. We can't assume Schneider told him to say that.

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How do we know Luongo would waive his no trade for Washington??

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Cory Schneider's agent Mike Liut called Lawrence Gillman last night to give him heads up about his interview with Van Sun.

Liut didn't want explanation from Gillman about why Loungo is still around. Just heads up about Interview with Van Sun.

Liut and client quickly finding Canadian media a whole lot different than things down south. Liut says no more interviews.

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Who's assuming that?

I'm saying that you can be sure that whatever Liut is saying is exactly what Schneider is thinking. They're on the same page. And they're not exactly thrilled with what's going on here. And really, nobody should blame them.

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you are assuming right now there have been numerous occasions where player agents decide to open their mouths thinking they will change the minds of a coach to play their player when they should really keep their mouth shut

also doesn't sound like their on the same page

Schneider on the #Canucks' crease conundrum: "It would be extremely selfish to put our needs ahead of our teammates and make it harder on them than it alread is. Nothing changes between us an how we interact and play our games."

so nothing changes until schneider actually comes out and says he wants out

http://www.vancitybu...ongo-wants-out/

seems like luongo is the one that wanted out hence why he is the one that will be traded in the off season hence why there have been the same thread recreated about a luongo trade in the futue

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also doesn't sound like their on the same page

Schneider on the #Canucks' crease conundrum: "It would be extremely selfish to put our needs ahead of our teammates and make it harder on them than it alread is. Nothing changes between us an how we interact and play our games."

so nothing changes until schneider actually comes out and says he wants out

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uhmm, read between the lines, bro. Schneider is speaking about the 'us' being him and his teammates. Why would he have any animosity with his teammates? None of them do anything, except say 'how high?' when they're told to jump.

That has absolutely nothing to do with Schneider's understandable or inevitable (and to-be-expected) dissatisfaction with management and the blatant and embarrassing mishandling of this situation.

Maybe Schneider didn't endorse his agent's comments, but I don't see why anyone would question their truthfulness. Schneider is wasting his career at this point.

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I watched the Penguins / Washington game the other day. Backstrom looked lost, skated aimlessly and without purpose. He got beat to the puck so many times he was called out by Milbury and Jones. They used the telestrator to demonstrate shift after shift his line was giving up chances on noticeably weak efforts, broken plays and bad passes.

Yes, struggling!

They concluded; no wonder Washington is losing! Then went on to criticize why Oates was puttering with Ovi on his off wing, when simple fundamentals were so poor. But with Oates being new and a statement after these same players ran Hunter and Boudreau out of town (both quality coaches) > perhaps a shake up was necessary?

Scoring a few points means nothing in boxing either, when you get your arse flattened dancing like an idiot.

People who post without watching actual games... :picard:

"Struggling"...he has 7 points in 9 games.

He's also gotten 374 career points in 374 career games, and he's 25 years old. Don't think they'll be trading him.

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Sure you can't hide salary in the AHL, but salary can be retained in a trade under the new CBA.

Here is some additional description:

m.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/globe-on-hockey/how-the-nhls-new-salary-trading-system-works/article7033878/?service=mobile

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He's talking about how we can keep some of Luongo's salary and/or cap hit in a trade, similar to the Lombardi trade to Phoenix in January. For a budget team like Florida, we could offer to pay a portion of his salary and they get the full cap hit in order to sweeten the deal.

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