Provost, on 27 January 2013 - 12:54 AM, said:
The very important point that you are missing is that we don't lack offense at all. We have been amongst the highest scoring teams in the league for the past several years. Our bread and butter is outscoring the opposition. It is simply the facts and not opinion.
With the exact same roster that is chock full of offense, we can't score goals in some of our playoff rounds. It is not that we don't have offence... it is that they are unable to make their offensive plays suddenly. You need to consider why that is. It is because they are played much more physically and don't have the room to make fancy, skilled plays.
The counter to that and the way to make room is to have more physical players... it is not to add another non-physical offensive player who will also not have room to make his plays. You have to build a balanced team that complements each other... not just try to throw the guys who score the most goals all together and hope for the best.
Our team is in need to a reasonably talented and very physical player on our 3rd line who is capable of playing meaningful minutes. Someone in the mold of a Chris Neil/Clutterbuck. He makes room for our skilled guys and has the added benefit of taking away room from the opposition's skilled players.
The other addition required to complement our existing guys is to find a very mean right hand D who punishes opposing forwards who want to dipsy doodle around our zone. If Ballard is the guy who dishes out the hardest hits on your D... you are in a little bit of trouble. I say that as someone who has been defending Ballard since he got here. He is doing everything he can to help the team but is a little miscast as our tough 3rd pairing guy.
We don't lack offense? We don't lack offense in the regular season (although in the last half of last season we struggled and relied soley on goaltending to carry us) What do we want? Another Presidents Trophy or a Stanley Cup? When it comes down to when it matter the most we have lacked offense.
That's not opinion that's stats, of the 8 goals we scored in 7 games, only 3 of those came without one of the Sedins or Burrows factoring on it.
Then against LA, only 2 of the 8 goals we scored came without the Sedins or Burrows factoring on it.
Secondary scoring has totally been an issue. Go look at the 2011 Playoffs, look at the amount of goals scored by forwarrds not named Sedin, Kesler or Burrows.
Again I think your physical argument, taking away chances, exc. is being blow out of preportion, the game is still hockey, the intensity and physicality is racheted up but it's the exact same sport, exact same game, plays don't throw things, the big guys don't skate 100x's faster to prevent chances, you still get quality scoring opportunites and we haven't finished, adding guy who can't score in favor those who can and are playing well does not help that.
The key to playoffs is Goaltending, now matter what style you play, whether it is an offensive style that pushes the place, or a more physical style, or more defensive style, the key is goaltending and it always has been. It doesn't surprise me the last 2 Conn Smythe winners have been goaltenders, are success isn't going to hinge on whether Raymond and Schroeder our in our line-up it is going to hinge on how well Cory Schneider plays.
Besides you are acting as if we are extremely soft, which we aren't just another case of our softness and other teams toughness being blow out of preportion, the Sedins aren't soft, we have Kassian, we have Kesler, we have Booth, we have Higgins, we have Hansen, Manny, Lappierre, Volpatti, Weise, Exc. Not every team is chalk full of guys who are mainly grit. LA had Voynov, if he gritty? LA had Williams who isn't all that gritty, even Boston had Seguin, is he gritty? Chicago had Versteeg & Kane, Detriot had tons of "soft guys".
Once again, that's not what determines playoff success, it all comes down to goaltending. You can be successful with any style and since 2011 this team has been constantly being changed to be able to play every style. We can play a defensive style, we can play a offensive style, we have the players to play a tough gritty style, just scratch JS and Raymond and throw Weise and Volpatti in.
Now back to the regular point.
What exactly do you want to trade Raymond for, what is your proposed deal? Just give me some idea, because it is hard to assess your theory without knowing what it entitles.