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NHL.com is really pushing for Luongo to be our starter again. The headlines read that he is, and their poll states that the majority believe he is too.

I really hope MG holds off any trade talks for a while now just to see how this all unfolds. We should happily welcome Luongo back as our starter if he continues to outplay Schneider and trade the younger goalie.

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Actually there is one solution that makes sense in that situation, Just holding onto Dipietro and there young assets. Waiting till they are a good team, and making a decision later on, right now is not the time to do it. They have some good young goalies and they aren't at the level yet where throwing away assets for Luongo would help them.

And your first part kinda took everything out of context, there goalie is facing the most shots in the league and is 4-1-1 with respectable stats under the circumstances.

My older goalie comment was talking about Luongo moving forward into the future, do they want a goalie they can use for 5 years or so, or rather wait and see what they have with some prospects, and if that doesn't turn out then later on acquire a goalie who can be a corner stone for 10+ years.

It just doesn't sense as to why they would do it now with they team they have, and the fact that they are giving up the most shots just shows how bad they are, how much work they need in other areas first and how it makes no sense for them to do it.

And besides, above all else. They can't afford it. They can't afford to take on Luongo while Dipietrio is still they, and he's not going anywhere, so that above all else kind of diminishes that opportunity.

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Once again, I said that I wouldn't be surprised if Calgary won the division, I did not say that they were going to win it.

Didn't another embarrassing 7-3 home-opener beating happen to some team that we all know and love, who were hosting a non-playoff team?

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A lot of people found Christian Ehrhoff to be pretty one-dimensional. But that one-dimension was extremely valuable to our team - he brought something that we have not been able to replace. Investing in a couple of the other guys over Ehrhoff - Bieksa & Garrison, for example - was IMO a mistake. Specialists are often more impactful than jack-of-all-trades types, as well as more scarce.

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Their owner is Wang, not Bell or Aquillini...

Wang will continue to get Snow to sign back-up goalies on small contracts to play tandem with DiPietro... until DiPietro retires or something big happens like Tavares threatening a trade...

Either that or Dipietro has a reawakening and begins to play like a 1st overall pick, but either way it'll be RD and a goalie on a small contract who they hope can play well or has shown potential to (Nabby, Montoya, etc)...

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For a guy who supposedly revels in stats and tangible proof, that is a strange statement to make. Kevin Bieksa proved far more valuable than Christian Ehrhoff in the 2009-10 and 2010-11 playoff runs. He equalled Ehrhoff's point production (despite far less PP opportunities), and was far more responsible defensively. He has provent to elevate his game in the playoffs, whereas Ehrhoff's value has diminished when the game intensifies.

Add in the fact that KB3 wasn't demanding a lifetime contract, had fantastic chemistry with your #1 D-man, and was your only legitimate right-handed D-man (other than Salo, whose future was uncertain), and chosing between the 2 of them should be an absolute no-brainer...

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NHL.com is really pushing for Luongo to be our starter again. The headlines read that he is, and their poll states that the majority believe he is too.

I really hope MG holds off any trade talks for a while now just to see how this all unfolds. We should happily welcome Luongo back as our starter if he continues to outplay Schneider and trade the younger goalie.

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This is nothing new or relevatory - Luongo has played well every regular season. However, when it's mattered most, he's had a full blown meltdown at the end of every year since 2006-07.

2007-08 - Last 6 games: 4.59 GAA, 0.837 Sv%

2008-09 - Last 6 games: 3.31 GAA, 0.879 Sv%

2009-10 - Last 6 games: 3.52 GAA, 0.897 Sv%

2010-11 - Last 6 games: 4.12 GAA, 0.864 Sv%

So if the goal is to rack up Presidents Trophies, then by all means, keep him and trade Schneider. But for me...I'd like to try something different.

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You may be right about Wang - if you are, he may as well put the team on the block.

Why would Dipietro retire and leave 9 years at 4.5 million on the table? Dipietro has to go on a list with Redden, Yashin, Gomez, etc of mistakes you can't remain in denial of, letting that roadblock your team's future.

The Islanders have been rebuilding since the Ice Age. They are a good young team now, with a whole whack of talent coming down the pipes in a bottleneck - their weakest prospects are their average young goaltenders.

They've scored 2 goals less than San Jose at this point. That is reason #1 why they are winning hockey games.

Luongo would add 2.55 million cap hit over what they are spending on Nabokov. A team that is sitting in New York, about to move into a new arena, has a goaltending crossroads to deal with, and isn't willing to spend 2.55 million may as well simply put the team on the market and sell it to an owner that has a moderate intention of winning.

I see the Islanders as a longshot, but in any event, they are one of the goaltender buyers - if not in the present, in the very immediate future. And like the Leafs, they'll have to pay - unlike the Leafs they aren't swimming in money, but have far more assets to get it done.

We can go through every prospective interest and say 'it doesn't make sense to Toronto - they're not a good enough team to justify acquiring Luongo - it doesn't make sense to Philly, they have Bryz's contract - it doesn't make sense to Florida, they have Theodore and are thriftier than the Salvation Army - it doesn't make sense to Edmonton, they're still too young to take advantage of a veteran goaltender - it doesn't make sense to Washington, they have two good young goaltenders and are stuck with paying the underachieving Ovechkin, Backstrom and Green... Columbus doesn't make sense, assuming Luo would never want to go there (although they're in a position to walk away from Mason, an RFA who they can simply opt not to qualify...).

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I am in utter disbelief about this "goalie controversy". It would seem that the canucks have been saying no one is guaranteed a position on this team. Come to camp,to games and whoever plays best gets rewarded. Any one that wants boo hoo loungo who when challenged for his position asks for a trade; whats that about? That is not the type of player regardless of his past that we should want on this team. This whole thing is a joke. Just my opinion.

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Weren't you implying that Schneider isn't really a starter, that we need a starter to handle a team with weapons?

Schneider walked into Boston last year and out with a win.

I think that's a fairly solid example for you.

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You may be right about Wang - if you are, he may as well put the team on the block.

Why would Dipietro retire and leave 9 years at 4.5 million on the table? Dipietro has to go on a list with Redden, Yashin, Gomez, etc of mistakes you can't remain in denial of, letting that roadblock your team's future.

The Islanders have been rebuilding since the Ice Age. They are a good young team now, with a whole whack of talent coming down the pipes in a bottleneck - their weakest prospects are their average young goaltenders.

They've scored 2 goals less than San Jose at this point. That is reason #1 why they are winning hockey games.

Luongo would add 2.55 million cap hit over what they are spending on Nabokov. A team that is sitting in New York, about to move into a new arena, has a goaltending crossroads to deal with, and isn't willing to spend 2.55 million may as well simply put the team on the market and sell it to an owner that has a moderate intention of winning.

I see the Islanders as a longshot, but in any event, they are one of the goaltender buyers - if not in the present, in the very immediate future. And like the Leafs, they'll have to pay - unlike the Leafs they aren't swimming in money, but have far more assets to get it done.

We can go through every prospective interest and say 'it doesn't make sense to Toronto - they're not a good enough team to justify acquiring Luongo - it doesn't make sense to Philly, they have Bryz's contract - it doesn't make sense to Florida, they have Theodore and are thriftier than the Salvation Army - it doesn't make sense to Edmonton, they're still too young to take advantage of a veteran goaltender - it doesn't make sense to Washington, they have two good young goaltenders and are stuck with paying the underachieving Ovechkin, Backstrom and Green... Columbus doesn't make sense, assuming Luo would never want to go there (although they're in a position to walk away from Mason, an RFA who they can simply opt not to qualify...).

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