Unlike Bernier, Schneider has played well enough to overtake the elite goaltender he is playing behind.
Not really comparable. Luongo is/was a known NHL commodity, Quick was another very young guy (2 months older than Schneider) who they saw was worth building around early on. He also won them a Cup and a Conn Smythe. Had he choked against Vancouver last year, perhaps Bernier would've gotten a more serious look, who knows.
And actually there is far, far less risk in getting Luongo, with him you know what you are getting, with Bernier it is nothing but risk and he really isn't an upgrade on Riemer and Scrivens.
And judging by the reports that LA's asking price for Bernier is ridiculously high (probably close if not the same as what we are askign for Roberto) Lu would be the far better choice.
When you say "risk", what do you mean?
When I say the word, I'm thinking mostly of financial risk. IE - no team wants another DiPietro. If Luongo were to get injured, or if his play were to just decline significantly (he is 34, after all), that's still $5.3M that they're committed to until 2022 - when Lu will be 43 years old. That
is the major risk in all of this. I don't think many people are concerned that he'll just forget how to play hockey. But at that cap hit, he needs to be elite.
What's the risk in Bernier? At a minimum, he'll probably be a serviceable starting goalie, with the upside being that he turns into someone who's very, very good. He's young, cheap, and someone to build around. It would seem to me that a team like CBJ would be better served giving up a prospect or two and taking a chance on a guy like him than giving up something along the lines of what Gillis is asking for Luongo.
Al Montoya was taken 6th Overall,
Devan Dubynk was taken 14th Overall,
Cory Schneider was taken 24th Overall,
Pekka Rinne was taken 258th Overall.
All in the same draft. The "potential" the first 2 had didn't exactly materialize aswell as the other 2 now did it?
Thomas McCollum was taken 30th Overall. Jacob Markstrom was taken in the 2nd Round.
Not sure your point, there are endless examples.
The point is that it's relevant. LA is asking what they are for Bernier because the perceived potential is still there. They wouldn't find any buyers at that price for an unknown goalie taken in the 5th round of that same year.
No they don't they picked up some guy at the deadline last year who is carrying the 1st line on his back
That is true, he's made stars out of Vanek & Pominville already!