Mike Vanderhoek Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Dude. Calm down. There never was a quotable statement regarding a request for trade, a statement regarding who's number one, or even Schneider's emotional state regarding the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eretz canucks Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Although I think Pavelec is extremely over rated and isn't a very good goalie, Winnipeg disagrees with me. They have trust in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eretz canucks Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Strombone ‏@strombone1 Being a backup is a lot funner than I anticipated......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 A few good games doesn't change the fact that he's about 8 weeks away from being 34, he's signed until 2022, and the Canucks are in a very weak bargaining position. Nothing at all has changed. You don't actually think that a guy like Dave Nonis is going to make a serious investment decision like this on the basis of 1 or 2 games, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 IMO the Canucks desperately need a player like Gardiner. They are horrible at bringing the puck up the ice wether it be on the PP or 5 on 5. Canucks DO NOT have a fast smooth skating that can carry the puck up the ice. Edler, Hamhuis, Ballard etc are decent at it but not exceptional. Look at how successful the PP was when Ehrhoff was here and he has lots of flaws, their PP was 1st in the league and hasn't been close since. Watching the PP last night was brutal, they couldnt even break the blueline on a 5 on 3. The drop pass is ridiculously predictable, they have no one that can successfully break the line consistently. A true offensive dman is a glaring weakness in the Canucks system. Gardiner >>>> Kadri Lu, Sauve, 3rd For Gardiner and Bozak/Frattin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Dude. Calm down. There never was a quotable statement regarding a request for trade, a statement regarding who's number one, or even Schneider's emotional state regarding the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Change the plan Gillis, keep Lui and trade Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I totally agree. In fact, I would still pull the trigger if we had to add a 1st rounder (although, I'd also want one of their goalies coming back to play back-up). I think the one thing this team could use more than anything is a pure sniper, who can create offense out of nothing, and put the puck in the net even if he is being defended perfectly. It would give us a new look, especially in the playoffs. It seems all the other team has to do is take away the time and space for Sedins to make tic-tac-toe plays, take the slot away from Kesler, and BOOM! - we got nothin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 MG said a few days ago on the radio that Luongo requested a move. I'm sure Winnipeg would be delighted to give up their two best players, for a young goalie (When they already have a very good one) and a bunch of scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Was same announcement made in game 6, game 7, and game 8 of the 2012/13 season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Wow. Easily your worst post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Interesting. Not exactly the same sentiment around here for Kassian, another kid with 6 points. Must be pure coincidence, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 That deal won't get it done, and I disagree I think Ballard and Edler are capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Your back to back President's trophy team is a Moneyball, regular season team. It does not translate into great playoff performance. Hopefully having mixed it up a bit by having Kassian. On te top line, some more toughness, a healthy Kesler and Booth will do wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 For a those 2 players, in the same offer. They would be considered scraps. And I'm one who is heavily on the bandwagon of all of the players in question. Deal makes no sense for Winnipeg. I doubt they would even do Kane for all of that (Taking out Schneider) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 The Canucks biggest problem on the PP is breaking the blue line. It's obvious and talked about a lot. The Canucks best year on the PP was when they had Ehrhoff carrying the puck up. They have struggled this year and last. The drop pass worked for a while but now is very predictable. The Canucks have a glaring weakness in that role in the system. I like a lot of other teams forward prospects but if the Canucks are trading with the Leafs, one of their offensive dmen need to be targeted. They do not need anymore secondary forward or rental players in a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowest common denominator Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 The basis for this post - that 'most goalies come into their prime in their early 30's' - is flat-out FALSE. A while back, I researched a bunch of NHL starting goaltenders from the past, and the majority of them had their stats majorly fall off at around 34 - the age Luongo is right now. The only goalie in recent years to hit his prime years in his early-to-mid-30's was Tim Thomas - who didn't start playing in the NHL until he was around 30. Relatively few elite goaltenders can continue to provide top-notch goaltending into their mid-to-late 30's. One of the benefits of giving Luongo these starts is that it gives evidence that he may, in fact, be one of those goalies. There may have been trepidation after his stats noticeably dipped last year. Add in a shortened season, and Luongo's penchant for slow starts, and these past few games may have increased interest among suitors who previously had doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Sub Luongo for Schneider and it's a good proposal lol. It's a 101 proposal Smashian - there is one basic point to his proposals - to move Schneider - I'm not sure making sense is much of a motivation there. Anyway, regardless of how you qualify it after the fact, there are no "scraps" in that (odd) proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Ballard and Raymond have proven themselves to be scraps, playing great this year, big fan of both but it is what they have proven themselves to be (The last 2 years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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