RockNroLLa. Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Ballard and Raymond have proven themselves to be scraps, playing great this year, big fan of both but it is what they have proven themselves to be (The last 2 years) Nontheless I agree, 101 needs to realize Luongo's great games don't change anything. I expected him to play like this as he is a star goalie, not sure what everyone expected to happen, when you have a star goalie he is going to preform. Schneider should still be the one who stays though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 It's because we do the same damn predictable strategies to gain the line, if the coaching staff would wake up and realize we need a change we would be alot better. We should also give Ballard a chance. He is a bit better skater than even Ehrhoff IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 just stop. and Schroeder and a 1st were also "scraps" in that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 No Ballard and Raymond are. Are Schroeder and a late 1st enough to get Byfuglien and Kane? Just stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 MG said a few days ago on the radio that Luongo requested a move. I'm sure Winnipeg would be delighted to give up their two best players, for a young goalie (When they already have a very good one) and a bunch of scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 VAN Byfuglien Kane WPG Schneider Ballard Raymond Schroeder 1st is the offer. Not Schroeder and a 1st for Byfuglien and Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockNroLLa. Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Nothing "emotional" about it whatsoever - that's the hard, cold reality - those are two of the most over-rated players in the NHL, evidenced daily on these boards. What is emotional is you calling this "hatred" = ridiculous. Emotional, defensive, adolescent thinking equates critical thinkng with 'hatred'. You're right in one sense - with Phaneuf we would be getting another, even more highly priced third pairing defenseman. We already have to listen to enough whining regarding our outstanding blueline - with Phaneuf the complaints about his vacancy would never end. And unlike Raymond, with Kessel we'd have a floater in our lineup taking up twice the cap hit and giving up twice as many scoring chances as he generates. His uninspired, patchwork performances would grow very old in a big hurry. Even Leafs fans, who are probably as tolerant as any, have had enough of these guys. And I see the Schneider, Schroeder and a 1st are an afterthought for you. That would be the rebuild on the go that the Leafs desperately need - but not at our expense thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 They're gonna screw this situation up if they conitnue like this. Schneider's only signed two more seasons after this, and then who knows if he'll even wanna stay after that. And then who's our number 1 goalie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smashian Kassian Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 They're gonna screw this situation up if they conitnue like this. Schneider's only signed two more seasons after this, and then who knows if he'll even wanna stay after that. And then who's our number 1 goalie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfxHaley Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Anybody who wouldn't is nothing short of crazy. I am personally shocked at these Kessel trade rumours coming out of Toronto. Can't imagine them trading Kessel would turn out well. If anything, trade Lupul, maybe even trade Phaneuf. But 24 year-old Phil Kessel? Good luck replacing him. Yeah, he has 0 goals so far, but he's getting nearly 5 SOG per game. They would be nuts to move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I don't think he will bail on us for this, he knows he will be the guy and I'm sure he knew full well this was a serious possibility. After all they did sit down and discuss it with his agent, and I highly doubt they left any stone unturned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Yea, but he's 26 going on 27. He's payed his dues, and this was supposed to be the season that he finally takes over the number 1 spot. Now it looks like he's in the same position as before. Is management gonna flip flop again and all of a sudden decide they wanna keep Luongo? I think it's fine now, but it has the potential to blow up in their faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 We could stay with Luongo and Schneider this year and we might even win the Cup (yes please Thor). It would be quite a gamble though, to not trade Luongo after all that has transpired. We cannot trade Schneider and keep Luongo and still maintain integrity unless the offer for Schneider is just incredibly overwhelming. If we trade Luongo, we can expect to get an excellent return. If we include some assets in the system that no longer fit the plan, we can get even more. If we trade Luongo, we need a qualified backup goalie. Lack is gone for the year and no one else in the system is good enough or ready. We do not need to get the backup goalie in the Luongo trade. We have lots of assets we can use to get a good one. We do not want any of the Leafs players or prospects and Luongo probably does not want to go to Toronto. (Was it ever confirmed that Luongo had turned down a move to TO?) Washington, NYI, Florida, maybe Philly and perhaps others, are probably in the running for Luongo. Wonder who the Canucks are looking at for the new backup goalie. We still need to get faster, bigger, tougher, younger, and cannot wait to see what GMMG will bring back for Luongo (and other expendable assets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockNroLLa. Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 We could stay with Luongo and Schneider this year and we might even with the Cup (yes please Thor). It would be quite a gamble though, to not trade Luongo after all that has transpired. We cannot trade Schneider and keep Luongo and still maintain integrity unless the offer for Schneider is just incredibly overwhelming. If we trade Luongo, we can expect to get an excellent return. If we include some assets in the system that no longer fit the plan, we can get even more. If we trade Luongo, we need a qualified backup goalie. Lack is gone for the year and no one else in the system is good enough or ready. We do not need to get the backup goalie in the Luongo trade. We have lots of assets we can use to get a good one. We do not want any of the Leafs players or prospects and Luongo probably does not want to go to Toronto. (Was it ever confirmed that Luongo had turned down a move to TO?) Washington, NYI, Florida, maybe Philly and perhaps others, are probably in the running for Luongo. Wonder who the Canucks are looking at for the new backup goalie. We still need to get faster, bigger, tougher, younger, and cannot wait to see what GMMG will bring back for Luongo (and other expendable assets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Bravo, great post. I m a fan of Climie as a potential backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 We could stay with Luongo and Schneider this year and we might even with the Cup (yes please Thor). It would be quite a gamble though, to not trade Luongo after all that has transpired. We cannot trade Schneider and keep Luongo and still maintain integrity unless the offer for Schneider is just incredibly overwhelming. If we trade Luongo, we can expect to get an excellent return. If we include some assets in the system that no longer fit the plan, we can get even more. If we trade Luongo, we need a qualified backup goalie. Lack is gone for the year and no one else in the system is good enough or ready. We do not need to get the backup goalie in the Luongo trade. We have lots of assets we can use to get a good one. We do not want any of the Leafs players or prospects and Luongo probably does not want to go to Toronto. (Was it ever confirmed that Luongo had turned down a move to TO?) Washington, NYI, Florida, maybe Philly and perhaps others, are probably in the running for Luongo. Wonder who the Canucks are looking at for the new backup goalie. We still need to get faster, bigger, tougher, younger, and cannot wait to see what GMMG will bring back for Luongo (and other expendable assets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 just stop. and Schroeder and a 1st were also "scraps" in that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMR Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 We could stay with Luongo and Schneider this year and we might even win the Cup (yes please Thor). It would be quite a gamble though, to not trade Luongo after all that has transpired. We cannot trade Schneider and keep Luongo and still maintain integrity unless the offer for Schneider is just incredibly overwhelming. If we trade Luongo, we can expect to get an excellent return. If we include some assets in the system that no longer fit the plan, we can get even more. If we trade Luongo, we need a qualified backup goalie. Lack is gone for the year and no one else in the system is good enough or ready. We do not need to get the backup goalie in the Luongo trade. We have lots of assets we can use to get a good one. We do not want any of the Leafs players or prospects and Luongo probably does not want to go to Toronto. (Was it ever confirmed that Luongo had turned down a move to TO?) Washington, NYI, Florida, maybe Philly and perhaps others, are probably in the running for Luongo. Wonder who the Canucks are looking at for the new backup goalie. We still need to get faster, bigger, tougher, younger, and cannot wait to see what GMMG will bring back for Luongo (and other expendable assets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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