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#31 Roflcawptur

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:35 AM

hope this increases his trade value ill drive him to the airport when the time comes

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:51 AM

I've been a supporter of Raymond since day 1. I posted a few times last year when I was hearing all the crap about Raymond; then I just stayed off the CDC. We need some patience - especially with a guy coming back from a serious injury. Last year was a write off with the recovery from the broken back.

He is looking much stronger than last year. He's stronger on his skates and his top speed gear has returned. I hope he can keep it going. It was an interesting line out there with Schroeder. I'm not sure Wiese is the best pick for the other winger. Time will tell. I hope Raymond has a strong season to prove the haters wrong.
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#33 kmotamed

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:59 AM

Well, as long as he is a consistent secondary scorer on this team, he's doing his part! Just gotta work on keeping the +/- up
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:18 AM

I've always thought he doesn't pass as much as everyone else. He seems to be playing like he was in '09 though, but that Kopitar incident last year still haunts me.

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#35 Moonshinefe

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:19 AM

Okay Raymond had a key goal for us tonight, but really, the puck squirted out to him while he was in a prime scoring position. It wasn't like he scored the best goal ever.

I hope he builds his confidence off it though, I'd be very happy to see Raymond pot 20+ this year.
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#36 Chip Kelly

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:33 AM

This is a big year for him. If he wants to be back next year he needs to show something. This year so far he is playing like he is motivated its very early though.

Don't know if he will get back to top 6 form but he should be a solid third liner. It's gonna be interesting when Booth comes back.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:40 AM

I've ripped on Raymond a lot, but he played alright tonight. I even saw him finish a check!

If he can play like he did tonight and stay on his skates consistently, he'll justify a spot on the roster.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:43 AM

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:10 AM

First things First. Im not starting this thread because he scored a goal tonight.


Yes you are. Otherwise why would you lead with that and try to convince us all you're not.

I hope you're a woman, because that is pure unadulterated female hamster logic on display right there.

Raymond had a solid game tonight.

Make a thread the next game he disappears and/or falls down every shift and/or does his patented circle around the net and lose the puck routine.

You can start the thread off with "I'm not making this thread because Raymond fell down again and/or played like kahkah" - you know, just so we all know you're being genuine.

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#40 pistolpro327

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:10 AM

raymond has played terrible and had a nice goal tonight but after that was a non factor.

he is useless especially when he tries to set up in the offensive zone with his down the boards stop turn around go the other way stop turn around go back down but lose the puck turnover.

he needs to be a more off the puck player, get in position and let the playmakers do the work of setting up and getting him the puck in good position.
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#41 King Heffy

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:17 AM

raymond has played terrible and had a nice goal tonight but after that was a non factor.

he is useless especially when he tries to set up in the offensive zone with his down the boards stop turn around go the other way stop turn around go back down but lose the puck turnover.

he needs to be a more off the puck player, get in position and let the playmakers do the work of setting up and getting him the puck in good position.


Did you watch the game? I'll be the first one to admit I not been Raymond's biggest defender on here, but he made some nice passes to his linemates and didn't shy away from the physical aspect of the game. He played fine tonight.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:27 AM

Raymond is a top 6 forward on a team that doesn't already have 3 soft players in sedin sedin burrows
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:48 AM

I ragged on him last year (When I think it was deserved honestly, not entirely because of his play but also a big factor was that AV continued to give him chances he didn't deserve and he flopped, unfortunatly everyone jumped on him.)

I do like what I have seen so far, as long as he is with Schroeder, Schroeder gives him something to work with, I don't think he meshes well with Ebbett at all and Kesler.. Meh perhaps there is potential to have something but I think he is great with a playmaking center that can dish the puck to him, create plays, and see plays in the back of his head so Raymond just has to get open and shoot.

That's what he has to do, he has a good shot so he has to be the trigger man rather than trying to carry it like he has in the past (Last year) He just needs to use his speed to get open and then have someone get the puck to him, and that guy appears to be JS.

Great to see him play well, was a huge fan at one point, it died off a bit with his poor play last year but I am starting to become a big fan of his agian, hopefully he continues this, we could really use his offense.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:52 AM

Raymond is a top 6 forward on a team that doesn't already have 3 soft players in sedin sedin burrows


You're going to have to define "soft". I don't view the Sedins or Burrows as "soft players". To me soft players don't battle along the boards like those guys do. I could care less if our top line players don't fight. I'd rather they be on the ice than in the box for 5 or more minutes.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:27 AM

First things First. Im not starting this thread because he scored a goal tonight. Im a long time forum reader first time poster. But enough is enough. Apparently this fanbase has to have a whipping boy....
Have none of you ever played on a team before? You support your brothers no matter what. If they have a bad day, week, month, season. You stick by them and support them no matter what. But what baffles me to no end. IS how KESLER gets a free pass last year cuz he is coming of an injury......... Are you serious. RAYMOND had a freaking broken back! Came back before kesler and still managed to put up points. But that isnt enough for you. You have to destroy the kids confidence by ripping on him nonstop.
Now he has had some time to heal and come back strong and there is threads popping up how he is completely useless 2 games in, after having a hatrick in a scrimmage. Ok my vent is over and i hope you haters can focus on whatever is so terrible in your life that you have to rag on a member of this team so you can feel better about yourself. I will go on record right now and say that raymond will have a breakout season and get back to his 25 goal season form. Especially with the chemistry he has found with schroeder. Take from this what you will. But the whole point of being a fan is to support your team no matter what. NOT sit behind your keyboard and bully the sh1t outta them!!!


It won't do any good, like cut weeds these guys disappear when he plays well waiting on their chance, then up they pop chipping away. They don't see the irony of how that can be done with any player, even their favourites.
I doubt many of them have played any team sport at all. And if they have guess who wasn't invited to the after match party?
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:30 AM

First things First. Im not starting this thread because he scored a goal tonight.


Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh okay. Then where was this before tonight?
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:36 AM

And a free Malhotra with every trade!
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Edited by Bodee, 24 January 2013 - 03:36 AM.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:37 AM

hope this increases his trade value ill drive him to the airport when the time comes


And I'll bundle you onto the same plane and lock the door.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:30 AM

i have never really ever liked raymond. there was also a time when burrows was the the fall down evey time he touched the puck guy. i also hated kelser because itb seemed like he was never going to live up his potential (yeah he sucked for awhile). the sedins used to play with trent klatt on the third line. for some reason i have hope in raymond this year, i truly think the adversity of a broken back, the fact he went to arbitration, the fact everyone (including myself) bashes him, the fact THE CANUCKS NEED HIM TO PERFORM this year, he will be great this year. think of vyacheslav (not sure if thats spelled right) kozlov of the red wings. perfect secondary scorer who was just good enough defensively to make the perfect difference, being a huge part of :the russian five" to win the cup a couple of times. for some reason i feel raymond can be a kozlov on this team this year. could be wrong but i feel he will be a huge part of the team this year
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:06 AM

Schroeder is going to find it tough to last as he admirably goes to the hard areas and he should not.
The guy is said to be 5'6 1/2" and he has to come up with the crafty center schtick or become seriously injured or redundant - quick.
As for Mason,the guy plays better the closer the Canucks get to Cochrane.
He needed a confidence booster and he got one so that is all good.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:18 AM

Last night wrist shot was awesome.
This isn't his first one either. Last year, in maybe his second game back he had a great goal against Montreal.



I was there for my first Canucks game ( flew over from The Netherlands) and that shot was a rocket after a nice toe-drag.

This guy can skate and has some finishing touch as well. he is just not that physical. That's why most fans prefer Kesler over Raymond. Because we all like to see guys who play with an edge. Raymond is no Lucic or Kesler. He has more finesse and less BANG.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:12 AM

He played great last night, I don't think he fell either. Although he almost fell during his celly.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:47 AM

Its encouraging that he scored but we will see. Thats the first time I have seen him in the slot with the puck in .....I dont know how long......a long fricken time:-)
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:20 AM

But that isnt enough for you. You have to destroy the kids confidence by ripping on him nonstop.


This may come as a shock to you, but he almost certainly has never visited this site.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:31 AM

I've always been impressed with Raymond and even when he wasn't producing he's still somewhat fun to watch with his speed. His ability to stop on a dime really throws off the defenders. And yes, he is surprisingly defensive-minded of late.

The problem with him is, and always has been, his strength. He is always playing on the outside and simply cannot compete with even average-sized defensemen and while his moves might be fun, the fact they amount to nothing is completely infuriating. I'd happily see him lose 10% of his speed and agility if he put on 10% more muscle and wouldn't fall down at the slightest draft wafting through the stadium.

It looks like with this time off he might have completely recovered from his broken back. For that I give him mad props. But I'm not at all convinced he'll be particularly productive this season.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:31 AM

thankfully, most of you here have no say in who gets traded. mayray has speed and great playmaking ability. oooo he falls down....but he gets back up and has the speed to get back in the play...time for some of you to start watching figure skating where falling down matters.
as for why you dont see him in the slot with the puck.... its because he is the one retrieving the puck and making the play........not everyone can stand around waiting for a pass.

this team needs a player like mayray and there are not many of his type out there. if there is, other teams will not let go of them.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:39 AM

He wasn't an impact player prior to the injury and I don't expect him to become one now.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:42 AM

Fans of all teams do this. It's not productive, but that's not the point, lol. Every fanbase needs people to blame.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:47 AM

TRADE HIM WHILE HIS VALUE HAS PEAKED!!!!!! :bigblush:
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:53 AM

What are you talking about, everybody loves Raymond


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