Conscience Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Yes that is not quality. Grigorenko was just drafted and Ott is a third liner, Hetch is not the same and Hodgson and Ennis are Second liners at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Hodson, Ennis, Grigorenko, Hetch, Ott and Ellis. You call that a lack of depth? Check out what Buffalo fans are saying. Many of them don't even consider Ennis a natural C and want him shifted to the wing. The top line (with Hodgson) is their best line. So yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Rumors abound that Markham may get an NHL team .. how long before Cody's Daddy lobbies for Cody to be moved there so he can go back to sleeping in his "Captains Bed" in his very own little room .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disisdayear Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 A more recent comparsion would be Martin St Louis like Jordon Martin is 5'8/5'9 but very smart and good hockey sense......early on he was not amazing (Martin St Louis) but eventually he starts to put up the numbers.......if he can be our version of Martin St Louis that would be great...we will see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Cody is the #1C for Buffalo. So, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Trev16...I like your comparison, but if Schroeder turns out to be as good as Martin St. Louis, I, along with all Canucks fans will be over the moon. I would suggest that St. Louis, in his prime, was a superstar, so if we have a St. Louis in the making, in Jordan Schroeder, it will be outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I think these might be some decent comparisons for Schroeder: - Mike Cammalleri (Different style, but could have a similar career path) - Danny Briere (SImilar in some aspects) Then for Cody I think Chris Drury or Tim Connolly (when he was with Buffalo) are some decent comparisons (Minus the speed for both) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Cody is just in a good spot between two good wingers. He will probably be removed from that spot when they find depth. Also, the only points he's gotten so far for the most part are shots going off his body, or bouncing in off him. I really didn't mind Cody, but people hyped him way too much. That one slap shot against Boston, while sexy, certainly, made far too many people overvalue him. Especially since for 20 games he basically did nothing, then he got traded, and it was shown he didn't want to be here in the first place. We'll see how he does in Buffalo, but considering who he's playing with, and the fact most of his points are just luck, I'd take Kassian. Kassian is with the twins, sure. But Hodgosn should be rolling in assists and points being a center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I really loved Cody when he was here and thought it was a bad move at the time but! 1. Kassian is going to be a stud if he wants to be and stays focussed. On the prior, given his effort/work ethic, maturity, I would say he wants it. On the second that is coaching, teammates helping him, and him working when things get tough. I have all the confidence that he has all those things as well...a terrific trade for us, and time will prove it. I saw Neely play at the same age, and yes its waaay to early to talk Neely, but he has a higher ceiling, he is a better skater, just as big, can fight, perhaps not as great a sniper but still a good one and can still develop that further, and is a better passer. Can he dominate like Neely, well thats the big question because what separates avg, goog, great in the NHL is consistency and ability to get better, raise your game when it matters etc. Those intangibles are inside him and only time will show us, but ceiling, its higher. 2. I think I over rated cody as you suggest. Everyone in Canada fell in love with this kid in the world Juniors, where he was Captain Canada, and legitimately deserved the mvp over Tavares. Then he falls to us and we are estactic...Well he has holes in his game. Defensively, and while his skating has improved, when you look at Schroder's ability to skate and stay in the play, create because of his speed, then watch CoHo as I have been you really see a BIG difference...that will hold Coho back from being an upper echelon player...he will be a good second liner and a contributor but I don't see him being a game changer. Kassian has the potential to be a game changer...I like that deal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Maybe thats more a result of a lack of real offensive centers in their organization, so he kinda defaults to number 1? Have you seen the points he's been getting? 1. Bounces off his body for goals (2) 2. Pitty 3rd assists 3. Playing poorly defensively 4. Point total is being inflated by playing on the same line as a guy who has consistently sniped 40 goals a year without him and is on a tear. 5. Is Bozak and a number 1 there champ? Well he seems to be playing 1st on Toronto isn't he? Nice logic huh? same as yours. Should we trade kesler for Bozak since Kes is a number 2 and Bozak is a number 1? Lol...please..And don't argue because I am using YOUR logic..."he's playing number 1 so he is, is your logic" 6. Back to the Bozak example, as I assume you're going to argue CoHo's numbers aren't inflated, well Bozak's sure were playing with Kessel and Lupul so...hmmmm Checkmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftcoast Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Having Kassian and Schroeder on this team > Hodgson and Schroeder... Debatable whether Kassian Hodgson or Kassian Schroeder is better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 With that kind of logic, Buffalo should have put Ott on the first line. You can hardly compare Tor depth to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 With that kind of logic, Buffalo should have put Ott on the first line. You can hardly compare Tor depth to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckinEdm Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I am not a fan of Cody, I used to be...but the more and more I learn about him. Hes lazy and from my friend who works closely with the Canucks (said he had a piss poor attitude and didnt fit well with the team-- I mean ordering milk at a bar?? Really are you 10?) I dont know much about Schroeder yet, I have only seen him play twice now. I seen him in the camps in Penticton but that was slightly different. I think the reason why Weise is on that line with Raymond, is they needed a big body to compensate for their size. *shrugs* Got any other ideas?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck or Die Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Simply put, Shroeder has the potential of being our version of Martin St. Louis. He has shown great promise in the two games he's played. I hope Shroeder does well here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Put Schroeder between Pominville and Vanek he'll get better results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Hodgson was my fav canuck at the time, and I was super pissed at the trade, but this is starting to get a little annoying... I think long term the trade will most likely be equal with each players becoming 2nd liners at the worst. Imo JS has looked better defensively and at faceoffs then Hodgson did in pretty much all of his games here. Hodgson has a way better slap shot, and is better at making offense when he doesn't have to rush the puck. JS is way better on the rush, something that fits with our team a lot better. I see Hodgson as the more offensive player in his career but JS with a better two way game scoring a bit less then Hodgson. I still think we haven't seen what JS can really do, I think he's just playing it as safe as he can and once the games go one he will get better and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazzY Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I will bet my car that tyler ennis is buffalos number one centre by seasons end. You coho lovers over hype him BIG TIME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 You;re suggesting Buffalo has better depth than Toronto at Center? I'd say its about the same in terms of proven players, neither team has any...that's why they traded for CoHo and then drafted a big offensive center with their first pick a few months later there bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Hodgson was my fav canuck at the time, and I was super pissed at the trade, but this is starting to get a little annoying... I think long term the trade will most likely be equal with each players becoming 2nd liners at the worst. Imo JS has looked better defensively and at faceoffs then Hodgson did in pretty much all of his games here. Hodgson has a way better slap shot, and is better at making offense when he doesn't have to rush the puck. JS is way better on the rush, something that fits with our team a lot better. I see Hodgson as the more offensive player in his career but JS with a better two way game scoring a bit less then Hodgson. I still think we haven't seen what JS can really do, I think he's just playing it as safe as he can and once the games go one he will get better and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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