marinated.pea Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The way I see it, Garrison's definitely struggled to both live up to the hype of his huge season last year and to live up to his big contract in a shortened season. But when you strip away all of that, I just see a guy struggling with adjusting to playing in the West on a regular basis, where in general players are much grittier and the D is required to be much tighter. And it's only been 15 games! Kind of reminds me of Andrew Alberts when he first came over (they only differ by a couple million bucks ) and look how long it took AA to get comfortable. I'm not saying we should just accept that Garrison hasn't lived up to his $. I think it's worth discussing so long as there's some perspective to it as well. I thought he had some good moments last game when he was 1 on 1 against Toews but clearly on a whole the D had problems last game (yes, including CDC's pet Ballard who was running around in our own zone just like the other 5 ). Still, Garrison seems like a good team guy though and looks to be improving; hopefully the D shake up won't mess with him too much. Ballard has been fantastic this year so hopefully he can help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEAN HARNETT Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The funny thing is Garrison took less money to come to Vancouver, Apparently! I think he got better term here and that is how the Canucks have him. With that being said, he has not played very poorly, just not up to expectations. Give him some more time to adjust, I'm very confident he will be better down the road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I sure hope he proves me wrong, I don't think he's bad but I don't think he will ever be as good here as he was in Florida. I would rather have gotten a defense man who can play the right side or can at least help with our transition game... since that's clearly what we need. Just doesn't really make sense to me to have Hamhuis,Edler,Ballard and Garrison who play the left side and all suck on the right............ You're jumping the gun on your assessment. Garrison has barely played the right side yet, he has been playing the left with both Bieksa and Edler. Once he settles in as a right side on the 3rd pairing with Ballard he will be up on that side with Eddy. Our transition game has less to do with any problems from our backend as it does from the coaching of Edler on the PP. If our PP is scoring at a 20%+ rate there would be no complaints to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marleau_12 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Everyone hated Ballard, now they're all on his dick. Same will happen with Garrison. Kill this thread for a year instead of nitpicking little bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosama Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Although I don't agree with you, I have to say that if this happens, it really should be the end of Mike Gillis. Reading this and the AV thread, as well as the comments on Booth and Edler only suggest that MGs decisions on contracts have been abysmal. Again, I do not agree with these opinions, but seriously folks. The people that are being critical of these moves really should be looking at the captain of the ship, not the crew. That's pretty much what I was trying to say. I don't think Garrison is a bad player, and I don't blame him for taking the contract. If I get offered too much to do a job then I'm not about to step up and tell them I'm not worth it, I'm going to take the money. It's management's fault for giving him that contract at that length. Again, it's not that I'm saying he shouldn't be playing the game, but he is getting paid to put up points and regardless of how stellar his defensive play is, it's not enough because you don't pay purely defensive D that much money. I hope he proves me wrong, I hope he starts producing, all I'm saying is it's a risky contract to offer to an unproven player because of the length and if it doesn't pan out and he's not earning his paycheque, it makes the most sense to buy him out because of the cap going down. He has a full season after this one to turn it around, but he has to be better than he has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The way I see it, Garrison's definitely struggled to both live up to the hype of his huge season last year and to live up to his big contract in a shortened season. But when you strip away all of that, I just see a guy struggling with adjusting to playing in the West on a regular basis, where in general players are much grittier and the D is required to be much tighter. And it's only been 15 games! Kind of reminds me of Andrew Alberts when he first came over (they only differ by a couple million bucks ) and look how long it took AA to get comfortable. I'm not saying we should just accept that Garrison hasn't lived up to his $. I think it's worth discussing so long as there's some perspective to it as well. I thought he had some good moments last game when he was 1 on 1 against Toews but clearly on a whole the D had problems last game (yes, including CDC's pet Ballard who was running around in our own zone just like the other 5 ). Still, Garrison seems like a good team guy though and looks to be improving; hopefully the D shake up won't mess with him too much. Ballard has been fantastic this year so hopefully he can help out. What I see is a guy, like Edler, who had a long term injury during the off season and lockout and is taking a long time to get his game back. They both only started skating a week or two before the season started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneforever Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Garrison gets his second goal of this shortened season, after playing with Canucks for the first time. He's starting to find his mojo. Overhyped? Overexposed? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Three points in 16 games? justifies his contract? He was selling his offense, we bought it, and it certainly hasn't paid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
172233 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The guy just needs some time he'll live up to his hype just give him some time to learn the system and hopefully he uses his big shot more often he's got a mad bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 because one game changes the past 15..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 He was supposed to score 48 goals, and get an assist every shift he played. Duh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 That was one game, one goal. It's safe to say that he hasn't produced as expected so far. With that said, new team, new system, so I think it's to early to pass judgement on him either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginu Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Time will tell... At the moment the stats are not in his favor. Also AV should play him on the left more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 What, no comments yet since the game tonight? 1 goal and 5 blocked shots in 17:34 of ice time tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneforever Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 How long did it take for CoHo, Booth or Kassian to start scoring points when they first started? It's not unreasonable to expect Garrison some time to learn how this elite team works, but I think he's a fast learner, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 What, no comments yet since the game tonight? 1 goal and 5 blocked shots in 17:34 of ice time tonight. Agreed. Garrison looked very good even without the goal. Solid game and more to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 That was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Time will tell... At the moment the stats are not in his favor. Also AV should play him on the left more often. hes been playing on the left all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Another solid game for Jager Bomb himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Keith Ballard makes everyone look better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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