MonkeyBusiness Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Hi, I am not a stat person and only have ever followed the team, because I love them. So please don't burn me for trying to understand stats now. I was looking at the Goalie leader board on NHL.com and was trying to figure out how all the stats worked. For example the GAA but not excluding all the others. I have only watched Canucks games so I can only comment what I have seen our Goalies do. Lu has a GAA of 2.21 but from the games I have seen he has not let in more than 2. So how are they coming up with 2.21? Are they factoring in the shootout goals as well? If so, then shouldn't that number be higher? Anyway please be kind and explain how the stats work. Go Canucks Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I R Baboon Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Multiply the number of goals allowed by 60 and divide by the total number of minutes played.Example: If you allowed 4 goals in 180 minutes your GAA is 1.33 (4 times 60 = 240. 240 divided by 180 = 1.33). The result suggests that for every full game you play, you allow 1.33 goals. http://proicehockey.about.com/od/learnthegame/f/goalie_stats.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 GAA is base on 60 minutes not 1 game. Therefore when Schneider let 5 goals in in 30 minutes or so and is pulled, his GAA is 10ish. Just like in baseball ERA is base on 9 innings and not 1 game. Therefore a pitcher who plays 7 innings and let in 1 pt, his ERA will be 1.29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 GAA is calculated based on full games played. In the first game of the season Lu replaced Schneider and played the remaining 33 minutes of the game. He let in 2 goals in that time. Based on roughly half a game played, he would have a GAA of about 4 for that game. That's why his overall GAA is more than 2 without ever having let in more than two. As for the other part of the question, shootout stats do not count. A goalie can lose a shootout and still register a shutout in a game if the game went to the shootout tied 0-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*VaNcOuVeRCaNuCkS* Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Like what was said above He has played 2.5 games not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyBusiness Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 I think I get what you guys are saying. So going into overtime isn't included? So if a team goes into overtime and they play the full five mins/more in the playoffs that does not change the formula? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*VaNcOuVeRCaNuCkS* Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Overtime counts in S% and GAA but the shootout doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I believe OT stats count, while shootout stats do not. So if a goalie let in 1 goal on a game that went to shootout, his GAA would be 0.926. Luongo has played 163 minutes and has let in 6 goals. 163 minute divided by 60 minutes per game = 2.72 games played. 6 goals divided by 2.72 games = Lu's 2.21 GAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyBusiness Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 I think I understand the GAA now. What about the rest of the stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I think it's the only one with that sort of complication. Save percentage is easy. Shots faced vs shots saved. Wins / losses can be a little funny. It's based on who is in net when the winning goal is scored. So if in the first game this year, the Canucks made a partial comeback and eventually lost 7-6, Lu would have been credited with the loss because he was in net when the winning goal went in. It doesn't matter that Schneider let in 5 before that. The rest are pretty straight forward I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*VaNcOuVeRCaNuCkS* Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Which stats are you referring to Wins: A goalie gets a win no matter which part of the game he won it in as long as he was in net for the Winning goal (ie: Regulation, Overtime, Shootout) Losses: A goalie gets a loss if he looses in regulation, If the goalie gets a loss in Overtime or a Shootout it is considered an OT loss but not a regulation loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10Bure14Burrows Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I guess they count the time how much he have played on the ice . That's wht I'm guessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.A Dickey Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 All minutes played. Ot counts. So if last night would have been like 1.88 gaa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuxFan09 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Also, factor in that Luongo took over for Schneider in Game 1 against Anaheim and allowed 2 goals so that will drive up his GAA a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Hey, great to see everybody being generous with their knowledge with a newbie - good-on-yah-all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmotamed Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 The confusion comes up when you forget that it's divided by minutes played, not games played. So if Luongo replaced Schneider in a game (which he did) then he doesn't get credit for playing the whole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katobaron Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Strange question: If a goalie is pulled for an extra attacker on a delayed penalty like this (and hypothetically it's a 0-0 game), and a goal like this is scored, does he end up with a shutout? 0 GAA and no shutout? 1 GAA and no shutout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Strange question: If a goalie is pulled for an extra attacker on a delayed penalty like this (and hypothetically it's a 0-0 game), and a goal like this is scored, does he end up with a shutout? 0 GAA and no shutout? 1 GAA and no shutout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus099 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I think I get what you guys are saying. So going into overtime isn't included? So if a team goes into overtime and they play the full five mins/more in the playoffs that does not change the formula? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I think I get what you guys are saying. So going into overtime isn't included? So if a team goes into overtime and they play the full five mins/more in the playoffs that does not change the formula? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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