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#1 Caboose

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:30 PM

To Toronto:

Cory Schneider

To Vancouver:

Nazem Kadri
Ben Scrivens

This trade fills a need for both teams, Vancouver gets a second line center while Kesler is gone and Kadri will be a staple in their top 6 for years to come, providing them more versatility with their lineup in the future.

Scrivens is not needed in Toronto with this deal, as a Schneider/Reimer duo will be more than adequate to fulfill our goaltending woes in my opinion.

I value Nazem Kadri a lot higher than most of CDC does I believe, but he is near PPG in the AHL, and has 3G 3A so far this year. He is a very opportunistic player and always seems to be in the right place at the right time, which frankly is the perfect player for the Sedins. Kadri is a fearless player and has a wicked shot, but also possesses excellent play making ability which could potentially be useful on a line with Ryan Kesler down the road.

So am I completely wrong here, or am I on to something?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:33 PM

y u do dis. iz ok.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:34 PM

y u do dis. iz ok.


This is fairly life changing to read, thank you.

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#4 Teemu Selšnne

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:37 PM

Caboose, value-wise this is fair, actually even tilted in Toronto's favour (they'd definitely have to add a 2nd pick or something equivalent).

But I sincerely can't picture CS leaving after all the smoke around Luongo these last 8 months. I just can't see it. If CS is the one to be moved, Kadri IMO, would be a sweet pick-up, though like you I value him more than most CDCers.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:40 PM

Caboose, value-wise this is fair, actually even tilted in Toronto's favour (they'd definitely have to add a 2nd pick or something equivalent).

But I sincerely can't picture CS leaving after all the smoke around Luongo these last 8 months. I just can't see it. If CS is the one to be moved, Kadri IMO, would be a sweet pick-up, though like you I value him more than most CDCers.


This is where we disagree, I see Cory as the odd man out in Vancouver.

Not only will more teams be interested in him due to his age and contract, he can be traded to all 29 teams while moving Luongo is hampered by his no trade clause.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:44 PM

This is where we disagree, I see Cory as the odd man out in Vancouver.

Not only will more teams be interested in him due to his age and contract, he can be traded to all 29 teams while moving Luongo is hampered by his no trade clause.


The situation that has been constructed looks like Luongo will be out, IMO.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:45 PM

The situation that has been constructed looks like Luongo will be out, IMO.


Constructed by who? The TO/Vancouver media?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:48 PM

Constructed by who? The TO/Vancouver media?


Luongo and GMMG having discussions regarding his NTC. As well as things that GMMG and Luongo have said to the media, like "a potential deal is in place"...."4-5 teams interested, 1 real contender"... It's rare that things like that get said and the player isn't moved.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:54 PM

As far as a trade scenario goes, it's sensible and equitable. Schneider and Kadri are both overhyped by their respective fan bases.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:57 PM

Yeah Luongo is the one on his way out, not Schneider. No chance Cory would have signed that deal if the plan wasn't to move Roberto when the appropriate deal came along.

& I don't think this deal is fair for Schneider anyways, and on top of that it isn't enough for Managment to move him rather than Roberto.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:12 PM

As of right now, I don't think Maple Leafs are in need for a goalie it seems that Scrivens and Reimer are doing great in net well... above average. This would be a fair trade further down the road, Kadri is on a streak right now but I guess so is Roberto, Wouldn't be smart to trade either.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:13 PM

No way. Would much rather keep Schneider.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:13 PM

a couple bad games from Schneider and everyone says trade him. HELL NO from van. Kadri is decent, Scrivens isnt much better than Lack. if Schneider was being moved to TO, you can bet Gardiner or a 1st rounder would be involved

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:07 PM

Add Frattin???????
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:05 PM

To Toronto:

Cory Schneider

To Vancouver:

Nazem Kadri
Ben Scrivens

This trade fills a need for both teams, Vancouver gets a second line center while Kesler is gone and Kadri will be a staple in their top 6 for years to come, providing them more versatility with their lineup in the future.

Scrivens is not needed in Toronto with this deal, as a Schneider/Reimer duo will be more than adequate to fulfill our goaltending woes in my opinion.

I value Nazem Kadri a lot higher than most of CDC does I believe, but he is near PPG in the AHL, and has 3G 3A so far this year. He is a very opportunistic player and always seems to be in the right place at the right time, which frankly is the perfect player for the Sedins. Kadri is a fearless player and has a wicked shot, but also possesses excellent play making ability which could potentially be useful on a line with Ryan Kesler down the road.

So am I completely wrong here, or am I on to something?


I think TO does too.

I don't think either GM would be ok with this trade Kadri has the Midas touch right now. Gillis has been pretty emphatic that C Schnide won't be moved unless there is a proven elite player coming back. It might be easier to get Kessel as its pretty obvious he doesn't want to be in TO anymore. We have no need for Scrivens Lack and Luo say hi. Gillis can buy a ufa backup without having to give up value in a trade to fill in this season until Lack makes the jump next season as Lacks contract morphs into a one way 2013/2014.

I for one would be 100% for a trade to get Kessel he's an elite RW finisher with speed even on a Wellwood diet. I see Kass being the play maker on the Kes Booth line despite not having an assist with the Canucks this season he has traditionally played the role of set-up man. And what an intimidating line that would be. Meanwhile the Sedins can dish the sause all day long to Kessel.

Trade might look like this

C Schnide Raymond K Con

Kessel Fransens rights + cond 2nd on Fransen signing.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:59 PM

I think TO does too.

I don't think either GM would be ok with this trade Kadri has the Midas touch right now. Gillis has been pretty emphatic that C Schnide won't be moved unless there is a proven elite player coming back. It might be easier to get Kessel as its pretty obvious he doesn't want to be in TO anymore. We have no need for Scrivens Lack and Luo say hi. Gillis can buy a ufa backup without having to give up value in a trade to fill in this season until Lack makes the jump next season as Lacks contract morphs into a one way 2013/2014.

I for one would be 100% for a trade to get Kessel he's an elite RW finisher with speed even on a Wellwood diet. I see Kass being the play maker on the Kes Booth line despite not having an assist with the Canucks this season he has traditionally played the role of set-up man. And what an intimidating line that would be. Meanwhile the Sedins can dish the sause all day long to Kessel.

Trade might look like this

C Schnide Raymond K Con

Kessel Fransens rights + cond 2nd on Fransen signing.


Where did you read this? And no chance Toronto ever does your proposed trade.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:08 PM

We lose this trade so bad. wow

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 09:59 AM

kadri would have to show he can play at a certain level for this entire short season, before id consider kadri oon par with schneider.

Plus I think with Torontos lack of depth at center they would be crazy to move kadri unless it was for another centerman

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 11:05 AM

I'd do it. Then bring up Lack next year.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:05 PM

We lose this trade so bad. wow



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