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Poll: Alain Vigneault: A Problem (147 member(s) have cast votes)

If the Canucks don't go far into the playoffs this season, will Alain Vigenault get the bum's rush?

  1. Yes. He has lost the support of his team and has been woefully irresponsible in airing his dirty laundry. (55 votes [31.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.98%

  2. What? He won the Jack Adams, man! He is AV. He has gotten us to the Stanley Cup Finals! I can't believe you dare question him. (35 votes [20.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.35%

  3. Who's Alain Vigneault? (8 votes [4.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.65%

  4. I propose letting Rick Bowness get the head coach job and Vigneault become assistant coach. (15 votes [8.72%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.72%

  5. I could really go for a salad right now (59 votes [34.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.30%

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#31 Gooseberries

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:14 AM

not a big fan of salad but it was by far the best option.


salad>expired cold hotdogs
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#32 morrissex95

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:15 AM

The Canucks don't have a starting goalie its 1 and 1A)
The thing about Kesler and his line mates is completely accurate. That guys ego gets bigger than the team.
Every other thing you said is a management issue not a coaching issue

Vigneault will need to be fired, though, if the Canucks can't win the Stanley Cup this season.
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#33 Teemu Selšnne

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:50 AM

There are many things that irk me about AV, I have never been a fan of his, ever. My first issue was the way he played Linden in 2006-2007.

Anyhow, there's been a lot of annoying things since then that I won't get into. The point is, I've never been a fan, and I wouldn't do things the way AV does usually, but you can't argue with success.

Two presidents trophies
4 49+ win seasons
SCF appearance
only missed the playoffs once and that was with a loser-Nonis team
is he at 4 or 5 NW division titles?
Jack Adams trophy

Under him

Hank has won the Hart
Hank has won the Art Ross
Kesler won the Selke
Luongo + Schneider won a Jennings
Daniel has won a Art Ross

Edited by Teemu Selšnne, 01 February 2013 - 09:50 AM.

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#34 Teemu Selšnne

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:51 AM

Also if Rick Bowness ever became coach I'd puke for three days straight.
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#35 DooBie604

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:00 AM

I like making up facts and twisting words to make it seem like I have a point.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:00 AM

What sauces? Sweet and Sour? BBQ? Honey Mustard?

Really insightful. Well done.


You make fun of someone for posting something relevant to OP, after you talk about sauces for artificial chicken?
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July 7-2013

Toronto will take a step back next year.
Feel free to quote me.


July 8-2013

Wow I can't believe peoples replies...
Im done here. You people are disgusting..


#37 elvis15

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:12 AM

I JUST made an AV thread with a poll that all the other AV threads got merged into...

This one?

AV should be on thin ice...
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#38 oldnews

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:18 AM

I have a craving for Chicken McNuggets right now.

I like pie


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#39 Raiun

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:58 AM

Also if Rick Bowness ever became coach I'd puke for three days straight.


That would actually be really impressive. World Record maybe?
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#40 TotesMagotes

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:06 PM

Vigneault isn't going anywhere. He's a good coach. You sound like a cry baby whining about a bunch of little things someone said that insults you.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:07 PM

y do u wanna fire a coach just cuz he doesnt talk and do the way u want him to talk and do?

cm'on be more smart ::D
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#42 ThaBestPlaceOnEarth

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:15 PM

Oh hi there Tony Gallagher, I thought it was you...
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:22 PM


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:24 PM


Posted Imagebardown, on 01 February 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:


I have a craving for Chicken McNuggets right now.

Posted ImageSteven Stamkos, on 01 February 2013 - 02:17 AM, said:


I like pie

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You guys should spoon, and make a baked apple mcnugget

Edited by darkpoet, 01 February 2013 - 12:26 PM.

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#45 Heretic

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:25 PM

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:29 PM

It could be AV is thinking if we play Luongo while he's hot, we may get a better trade deal.
It could be AV wants Luongo more than Schneider. He always caters to #1 (Luongo).
Schneider should ask for a trade. The fans should ask for a coach.
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#47 rkyway

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:34 PM

I've seen far too much of that stupid ''they traded my Cody'' graphic. This is about as clever as a fart joke. How many hundreds of times are we going to have to endure this?
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:51 PM

I've got a few gripes: 1)His general lack of emotion 2) No communication with players during the game. 3) When we're losing, he doesn't really "think on his feet", keeps the lines rolling and puts it on the players to play out of it. He does change lines and systems, sure, but it doesn't seem like he does it during the game, only in hindsight... Maybe he wants to explore things in practice before it counts, but it still bugs me.

BUT: You cannot argue with his record. Best coach in Van history.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:10 PM

Thread is actually a few fries short of a happy meal? :lol:

I have a craving for Chicken McNuggets right now.


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:28 PM

What is the issue with Alain Vigneault? Why does he act like such an absolute ass sometimes?

Let's see his great track record of publicly calling his players out and the latest of failing to notify his players of their upcoming games

  • Didn't let Cory Schneider know that he wasn't playing tomorrow. Left his starting goaltender completely in the dark, while playing his "back-up" Roberto Luongo
  • Stated that Roberto Luongo said he needed a fresh start shortly after the playoff exit
  • Stated that Ryan Kesler's injury (the one that required two surgeries) wasn't the reason for his diminished production in 2012
  • Stated he was unconvinced that Daniel Sedin had a concussion after the hit from Keith
  • Saying that Kesler needs to use his linemates more
Now there are more I am sure of it, but these seem to stand out as amazingly stupid things to say to the press in Vancouver which have been ultra critical of the team themselves. I can only assume that Kesler has no respect for Vigneault anymore, and has tuned him out. Vigneault won the Jack Adams, yes, he is no slouch as a coach.

However, his days as an effective coach in this city are behind him. His coaching style has become predictable and he has lost the ears of his team. I fully believe that various players along with Kesler have tuned him out. Can you blame them?

I'm sure there is a contingent of CDCers that would say that the players should man up and do what the coach says, but when your coach happens to call you out in public vs. going the private meeting route, what respect can you have for that behaviour?

I say that he has this season and this season only to keep his job. Yes he was signed on for two years.......but that hasn't stopped coaches from being given the boot.

I hope he makes the most of it and let's his players in on the gameplan. That and he has to stop chewing all the time.



1. don't know where you heard that....and just saying when they announce the roster for the next game, i think its pretty self explanatory.. that it says luongo in net... or would you rather pull him aside and say since your to dumb to put it together luongo is playing not you.....duh....i don't remember them ever saying cory was the starter? that was the media who did that..av has never stated cory is his #1 goalie..

2. he could have been referring to a new season...never once did he say luongo needs to be traded..

3. a coach is never going to say a player is suffering because of his injuries...why not just put a target on his back if he did...

4. again why not put a target on his back... everyone knows the sedins play better together...

5. well that is just stating the obvious
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:29 PM

Kesler does need to use his linemates more. The only thing he was right about. I've been a big AV supporter, but the way he is handling the goalie issue (or actually...creating the issue!) has turned me against him. Nothing short of a Cup will save his job this time, and this team ain't winning no Cup.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:34 PM

I've got a few gripes: 1)His general lack of emotion 2) No communication with players during the game. 3) When we're losing, he doesn't really "think on his feet", keeps the lines rolling and puts it on the players to play out of it. He does change lines and systems, sure, but it doesn't seem like he does it during the game, only in hindsight... Maybe he wants to explore things in practice before it counts, but it still bugs me.

BUT: You cannot argue with his record. Best coach in Van history.


you can't panic every time you go down 1-0 and start mixing up lines just cause you are losing..
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:38 PM

Kesler does need to use his linemates more. The only thing he was right about. I've been a big AV supporter, but the way he is handling the goalie issue (or actually...creating the issue!) has turned me against him. Nothing short of a Cup will save his job this time, and this team ain't winning no Cup.


i don't see him starting any goalie issue... he has 2 good goalies to use...one has played outstanding the other has been shaky in games... what does he care if the media says cory is the #1 av has never said that....

he uses the best goalie to give the team a chance to win..
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:41 PM

frackin' salad?


Come on, you don't make friends with salad.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:55 PM

Thread is actually a few fries short of a happy meal? :lol:


I could use a poutine right about now... :bigblush:
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People who label others as bandwagoners, people who tell other people "how" to cheer for their team, "how" they should act or what they should wear to "support" their team, people who only want to hear positive thoughts and don't want to read about how the team can do better - these are people who are insecure and uncomfortable within their own skin.

I'll support my team the way I choose, thank you very much. You can choose to support your team the way you want to, and I won't judge you on it as long as you don't try to force your beliefs on me. I'll also be quick to point out where I think the team can do better, because identifying that there is a problem is the first step to fixing it; denying or ignoring a problem won't solve anything.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:04 PM

Even Cory in his latest interview said he would like for AV to tell him if he's not playing.

Schneider said he finds out he's not playing by no one telling him he's starting... what a great way to find out you're not playing? ;/
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:06 PM

Well it looks like salad is the clear winner in the poll today. Consider yourself let off the hook this time, Alain.

AV does have the best record of any coach in Canucks history, that is undeniable. Many of his more vocal supporters (cough) lickspittles (cough) have let this be known.

Hopefully he can silence doubters like me by bringing the Cup here. I hope to stand corrected, as I do love this team and want nothing more than to see the Stanley Cup Champions banner high in the rafters. Time will tell.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:08 PM

y do u wanna fire a coach just cuz he doesnt talk and do the way u want him to talk and do?

cm'on be more smart ::D


The irony is delicious
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:09 PM

You make fun of someone for posting something relevant to OP, after you talk about sauces for artificial chicken?


This coming from someone named gushybear?
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:11 PM

He is a guy, I am a guy and I say stupid crap all the time.

Even world leaders slip up and say stupid stuff. Big deal.

He handles the media better than I would.

And how many players want to get the hell out of here when their contract is up?

Do you think guys like Edler are going to take a paycut to play for a coach they don't believe in?

We have a tight group this is not an issue

AV changes his system all the time I can't think of a coach better at adaptation.

He makes mistakes like everyone else on this team but overall he has done a pretty good job.


Fair enough.
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