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#1 DownUndaCanuck

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:19 PM

Winnipeg desperately needs a #1 goaltender, they're getting shelled night-in-night-out with Al Montoya and Pavelec. Surprise surprise this team is one of the deepest in the league at center, something the Canucks desperately need, even with Kesler back.

Schneider to WIN for Montoya and Antropov


Canucks have Luongo playing amazingly again, he's top-5 in GAA and Save % in the league and he's reclaimed his #1 spot while Winnipeg are in a bit of a rebuild with young defencemen, Scheifle and Burmistrov up front so Schneider would fit in perfectly with their future plans and match their primes.

Meanwhile, the Jets are stacked at center with Jokinen, Scheifle, Antropov and Little amongst others - essentially 4 centers who could play in the top-6.

Antropov is a huge 6'6" centerman who has been scoring well over 0.5 points per game over the last few seasons and his game and size would be great for the playoffs. The Canucks need size and skill like this down the middle, which is exactly what Antropov brings. Also, Montoya is 27, hasn't had plenty of success but would be a great backup for Luongo.

You win Cups with quality defence, a solid goaltender and depth at center. Boston won the Cup with 7 centermen in their lineup, LA with 6 and right now we have just 4 NHL centers. Antropov gives us 5:

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Burrows - Kesler - Booth
Raymond - Antropov - Hansen
Higgins - Malhotra - Lapierre

Fantastic depth at center and each line has a big body which is how the Kings won the Cup (Kopitar, Penner, King, Nolan). Now Antropov gives us that same size advantage right throughout the lineup.

A win-win trade. Of course you Luongo haters will suggest Lu instead, and of course we could take Brian Little instead but Schneider for Montoya and Antropov makes sense for everyone.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

Don't get ahead of yourself, we are fine with two elite goaltenders on our team for this season.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

No. Just no :picard:

In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:26 PM

:lol:

Absolutely horrendous return, not even fair value for Luongo IMO, let alone Schneider.

And the last thing they need is another young goalie, Pavelec is perfect capable, their issues are defense and discipline not goaltending. one bad game doesn't make them suddenly in need of a goalie.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:27 PM

brutal trade for us....and Pavelec is their #1
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#6 Jägermeister

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:27 PM

Antropov is an overpaid 2nd/3rd liner, and Montoya is just an average back-up goalie.
We could get sooo much more than that for Schneider...

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:33 PM

No thanks, not for Schneider.

We'd probably already been offered deals similar to that for Schneider, and Antropov is ok but makes $4M, is 32, and has already been dropped by the Leafs. He's also been accused of being defensively irresponsible, and has had stretches of disappearing offensively. 35 points last year and 41 the year before.

Montoya isn't near enough to make that palatable when we give up Schneider.

For comparison, people were previously talking about going after Kane or some similar significant piece if we traded Schneider to them. Not that it'd be even value, but certainly much closer than what you're proposing.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:39 PM

Gillis: Hello there, boy do I have an offer for you.
Ferrisbueller'sday off: Hey, Mike. What do you have planned?
MG: I thought I'd practically give away a talented young goaltender in Schneider.
FBDO: Oh?
MG: So I propose the following deal: Cory Schneider for Montoya and Antropov.
FBDO: It will be tough trading away the player that scored the first goal for the Jets, but I can't reject this offer.
MG: HAHAHA
FBDO: What's so funny? Is this Eklund again?
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:49 PM

For Schnieder you hit a homerun. Not a 3rd line center and backup goalie.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:51 PM

Winnipeg desperately needs a #1 goaltender, they're getting shelled night-in-night-out with Al Montoya and Pavelec. Surprise surprise this team is one of the deepest in the league at center, something the Canucks desperately need, even with Kesler back.

Schneider to WIN for Montoya and Antropov


Canucks have Luongo playing amazingly again, he's top-5 in GAA and Save % in the league and he's reclaimed his #1 spot while Winnipeg are in a bit of a rebuild with young defencemen, Scheifle and Burmistrov up front so Schneider would fit in perfectly with their future plans and match their primes.

Meanwhile, the Jets are stacked at center with Jokinen, Scheifle, Antropov and Little amongst others - essentially 4 centers who could play in the top-6.

Antropov is a huge 6'6" centerman who has been scoring well over 0.5 points per game over the last few seasons and his game and size would be great for the playoffs. The Canucks need size and skill like this down the middle, which is exactly what Antropov brings. Also, Montoya is 27, hasn't had plenty of success but would be a great backup for Luongo.

You win Cups with quality defence, a solid goaltender and depth at center. Boston won the Cup with 7 centermen in their lineup, LA with 6 and right now we have just 4 NHL centers. Antropov gives us 5:

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Burrows - Kesler - Booth
Raymond - Antropov - Hansen
Higgins - Malhotra - Lapierre

Fantastic depth at center and each line has a big body which is how the Kings won the Cup (Kopitar, Penner, King, Nolan). Now Antropov gives us that same size advantage right throughout the lineup.

A win-win trade. Of course you Luongo haters will suggest Lu instead, and of course we could take Brian Little instead but Schneider for Montoya and Antropov makes sense for everyone.


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:41 PM

zomg trade everyone sedins for teletubby wellwood kesler for bolduc edler for isbister yaaa .... note the sarcasm your proposal sucks try cory schneider for boone jenner clb 2013 1st pic and dorsett

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:48 PM

Anyone think the Jets would do a Burmistrov/Bogosian for Schneider straight up trade?

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:58 PM

no unless it was for evander kane then do it

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:03 AM

I mean, Pavelec is already a good goalie. I just think another D should be added in Winnipeg to complement a well-rounded, defensive lineup for the Jets. I mean, they already have Byfuglien and Enstrom.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 01:27 AM

You can't really blame Winnipeg's goalies for it all. Their defence doesn't show up to games either.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:36 AM

Winnipeg is going to run with Pavelec whether anyone likes it or not. And that is a completely garbage return for Schneider. We should be asking for someone like Blake Wheeler or Kane. Or Burmistrov/Scheifele+. Antropov is older, slower and done.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 02:44 AM

I've noticed a lot of overpayments and underpayments on these boards, and you'd be surprised what you will and won't get in trades. Maybe Winnipeg throw in a decent prospect or high pick, but you're not going to get a whole lot for either Schneider or Luongo. 1 top-6 forward, a backup goalie and a good prospect or pick is about right. Besides, Schneider isn't exactly a proven goaltender so there's the element of uncertainty and unpredictability that plays into a trade.

Oh and yes Winnipeg need a goaltender. Pavelec is not exactly a full time starter, he's had very average stats all his career. I don't see this team changing up their defence considering they have one of the best top-4's in the league with Enstrom, Byfuglien and co.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:01 PM

Not even close, you could get Schfeile and Little maybe way more.
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