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Comprehensive list of trade destinations for Luongo.

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It's been reported that Lu has refused to waive his NTC for two potential trades (Toronto and Chicago). So, don't you think the Blackhawks should be on your list of possibilities?

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Before the mods try to lock or delete this, please consider this separate from the Luongo trade thread, as that thread has currently been hijacked by a pissing contest between King of ES and whoever tries to begin a discussion. This thread will instead explore the possible trade destinations and return from those destinations. Based on the originality of this post, I feel it is far from redundant. That being said, if this doesn't generate discussion feel free to delete it.

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Criteria used for trade destinations:

- Goaltending situation for that team

- GA at this point in the season

- Team record

- Possible return

- Willing to waive NTC?

All things considered, I've narrowed it down to a possible 7 teams for a Luongo trade. The teams are: ANH, EDM, FLA, SJ, TB, TOR, WAS. Please note that the players of interest for each team are projected centrepieces of the deal, each list would have a single player we could acquire, not the entirety of the list.

Let’s begin with the Western Conference:

Western Conference:

Anaheim:

Jonas Hiller hasn't been the same since the concussion he suffered in the 2011 all star game. His SV% has decreased incrementally while his GAA has shot up dramatically. Behind Hiller is rookie goaltender Victor Fasth, who so far has looked good in his 2 NHL games, posting 2 wins. Given the decline of Hiller and the lack of experience of Fasth, I feel Anaheim could be a possible trade destination.

Players of interest:

Rickard Rakell © - 19 y/o, made the team out of camp. 2-way Swedish centre, noticeable at WJHC. 1st round behind Jensen 2011.

Luca Sbisa (D) – 23 y/o defenseman – 24 points (5 g 19 a) for the Ducks last season. 6’2” 205 lbs. 1st rounder 2008.

Emmerson Etem (RW) – 20 y/o, one of few Californian born players in the NHL. He put up 107 points (61 G 46 A) for Medicine Hat last season. 1st rounder 2010.

Perry/Getzlaf as pending FAs, could possibly be moved.

Edmonton:

The only thing this team is missing is a decent goaltender to put them in the playoffs. Scoring is not a problem for the oilers right now, and given their depth of young forwards I think Edmonton as a trade destination could be viable for both teams. Luongo could be willing to waive to go to this young and upcoming team.

Players of interest:

Magnus Paajarvi (F) – The stock on this kid has been a rollercoaster ride since putting up 34 points ( 15 G 19 A) in 2010-11. He’s a big 21 y/o at 6’3” 205. 1st rounder 2009

Teemu Hartikainen (LW) - Made the oilers out of camp. He reminds me of Jussi Jokinen, he hits and is money in the shootout.

Sam Gagner © – his 8 points put him 2nd on the team for scoring. He’s frequently rumoured to be on the trading block, he’s also a consistent 40 point getter. 1st rounder 2007.

Additional players:

Jeff Petry (D) – put up 25 points last year for the Oilers. A big 6’3” right handed D-man this team could use.

San Jose:

Niemi has been solid for SJ in net, though he is far from an elite goaltender. With Luongo the Sharks are not only contenders but favourites. In that respect we would have to demand more out of the trade. I believe Luongo would be willing to waive to go to SJ.

Players of interest:

Tomas Hertl (F) – Taken 17th overall this past year, he’s been competing against men in the Czech league, and putting up points. He’s 6’2” 196 lbs. Known for his offense; he led the Czechs in points at the 2013 WJHC.

Joe Pavelski © – Dominant 2 way centre, and perennial 60 point getter. With the signing of Gomez, while already having Thornton and Couture SJ can afford to deal a centre.

Additional players:

Nick Petrecki (D) – Big (6’3” 225) shut down D-man. 1st rounder in 2007, he just cracked the NHL this year.

Matt Nieto (LW) – Playing in the NCAA right now, taken 2nd round 2011.

Eastern Conference:

Florida:

The Panthers have been dismal in net this season, with a GA of 27. With only 2 wins on the season, the combination of Theodore/Clemmensen can’t last for long. Markstrom is still in the system, though it appears he is not ready for primetime. With Theodore and Clemmensen both approaching retirement, Florida will need goaltending in the interim. The only issue with dealing with Florida is of course the cap space issue, and the need to dump bad contracts in Bergenheim, Kopecky and Goc. Florida has a wealth of top prospects and young talent, a trade between these two teams makes the most sense.

Players of interest:

Nick Bjugstad © – Big 6’5” 212 lb centre, currently playing in the NCAA where he led the league in goals (25) last season. 1st rounder 2010.

Vincent Trocheck © – 69 points in 44 games this year in the OHL. He’s a bit undersized at 5’10”.

Alex Petrovic (D) – despite the last name, he’s a good Canadian kid. He’s 6’4” 201 lbs, known for his mean streak and physicality. He’s posted 15 points and 73 PIMs so far in his first AHL season.

Drew Shore © – The 6’2” 195lb centre made the Panthers out of camp. He’s known for his 2-way play.

Stephen Weiss © – Though currently injured, Weiss is a top line forward for Florida. He’s hit 60 points 3 times in his career, while posting 57 points last year. He’s set to become an UFA at the end of the shortened season.

Colby Robak (D) – He’s a big boy at 6’3” 194, he’s put up 18 points this year for the SA Rampage, and 39 points while being a +15 last in 73 games last year. He’s known for his WHL dominance with 66 points as a defenseman in 2010.

Quiton Howden (LW) – The pick we would have had in 2010, had we not traded for Ballard. He’s currently playing his 1st AHL season, posting 19 points so far in 41 games. He was called up after Weiss went down with injury.

Tampa Bay:

The Lightning are currently on a bit of a streak, going 6-1 to start the season, and winning 5 straight. They’ve been winning with their typical run and gun offensive style, scoring 37 goals for the most in the league. They of course have a question mark in net, with Anders Lindback having only played 44 games in the NHL. This team could become a legitimate contender with the acquisition of Luongo.

Players of interest:

Slater Koekkoek (D) – The highly touted defenseman went 10th overall at last years draft. He’s a mobile defenseman, putting up 28 points in 40 games in the OHL so far this season. He’s currently captain of the Peterborough Petes.

Brett Connolly (RW) – 6th overall in 2010, the 6’2” 200 lb forward has been a force in the AHL this season. Last season, he played the full season with the lighning , but has since been relegated to the AHL.

Teddy Purcell (F) – Put up 65 points (24 G 41 A) last year, and has 9 points (2 G 7A) so far this year. He’s big at 6’3”, the only negative is of course his new 4.5m contract which kicks in next year.

Toronto:

As usual the Leafs have had horrible goaltending in the tandem of Reimer/Scrivens. They are a team with a lot of younger players, make a trade possible. If Nonis likes his job, then its playoffs or bust, something Luongo could almost guarantee. The question is of course, would Luongo be willing to waive his NTC to go to Toronto?

Players of interest:

Nazem Kadri © – The young centre has looked good so far for the Leafs this season, registering 7 points (3 G 4 A) in 7 games. He was taken 7th overall in 2009, and has been point per game in every league since.

Matt Frattin (RW) – He’s been a stud since being called up from the Marlies. He’s potted 6 points (4 G, 2 A) since rejoining the Leafs.

Cody Franson (D) –A big 6’5” right handed D-man. He’s steady on the backend and able to pot some points. His best season was with the Predators in 2010/11 where he put up 29 points (8 G 21 A) while being a +10.

Tyler Bozak © – Bozak potted 47 points last year, and has been the Leafs top line centre this season. He’s set to become a UFA at the end of this season.

Washington:

The Caps are questionable in net, with Neuvrith and Holtby both lacking experience. The Caps are tied with the Panthers for the worst GA in the league, with 27 in 8 games. If the Capitals have any hope of making the playoffs, they either have to start scoring or figure out their woes in net. Luongo could of curse help with the latter.

Players of interest:

Marcus Johansson © – Mojo for short, potted 46 points (14 G 32 A) last season, but has struggled to find the score sheet this year.

Filip Forsberg (LW/C) – The top ranked European prospect at last year’s draft went 11th overall. He’s playing against men and partial NHLers in the SEL this season, where he has put up 28 points (13 G, 15 A) in 30 games.

Tom Wilson (RW) – He’s a big 6’4” 209lb forward, taken 16th overall in 2012. He’s known for his physicality and mean streak. He’s currently point per game in the OHL.

John Carlsson (D) – 6’3” 212lb right hand D-man. He’s solid on the back end, while contributing offensively with more than 30 points in each of the last 2 seasons.

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It's been reported that Lu has refused to waive his NTC for two potential trades (Toronto and Chicago). So, don't you think the Blackhawks should be on your list of possibilities?

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Why do we even have this thread as there are two other Luo trade threads???

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Why do we even have this thread as there are two other Luo trade threads???

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This is the adult only version though, the other one has a sandbox wars mentality

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I'd love to see a package coming back including Carlson, if we were dealing with Washington.

Something like:

To WSH:

Luongo

Schroeder

Tanev

2nd rounder

To Vancouver:

Johansen

Carlson

Neuvirth

4th rounder

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THIS IS SO FREAKING AGGRAVATING, Can you poser mods just shut the frack up? If don't want to discuss Luongo here, than go to the cluttered Luongo discussion thread.

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Personally I don't think we need to have one Luongo thread especially when theres a variety of different ways the trade can be discussed. I don't think it makes sense to pile everyone into one freaking thread.

I don't think its a good idea to trade Luongo right now-just throwing it out there. I've been saying this since the offseason but I think trading Schneider is much more secure of an idea than trading Lu.

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not sure why san jose would be on the list. and no way do they trade joe pavelski...

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It's been reported that Lu has refused to waive his NTC for two potential trades (Toronto and Chicago). So, don't you think the Blackhawks should be on your list of possibilities?

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I'd like to see those reports. If you mean rumours, then yes it was RUMOURED Luongo refused to go to TOR in the offseason. No mention of Chicago beyond analysts suggesting it could be a fit based on the pieces they have and of needing secure goaltending.

Who do you like from Chicago as a plausible return?

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I'd love to see a package coming back including Carlson, if we were dealing with Washington.

Something like:

To WSH:

Luongo

Schroeder

Tanev

2nd rounder

To Vancouver:

Johansen

Carlson

Neuvirth

4th rounder

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I think we could get one of either Forsberg or Wilson in a deal. I'd take Neuvirth back but would prefer Holtby. To me, Matt Perreault isnt anything special. Could probably get him off waivers at some point in the next year if we really wanted him.

In a perfect world : Johansson, Holtby, and Wilson for Luongo

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If NYI's are in no position to contend; equally Toronto would be foolish to trade young assets?

Their assets they might need to fill big roles should Kessel not re-sign??? Especially after shedding Tim Connolly...

My darkhorse is, ahem, Chicago. Much like San Jose, there is no incentive while they're top of the table. But last year they're goaltending was a question. The problem is deeper; Nick Leddy is an asset we could use, but at left D where we are stacked. So start thinking multiple trades or a 3 way? Let me dwell on that...

And Florida makes less and less sense at this time of year while the Panther's are imploding. If the goalie ain't going to help, why give up assets?

I'm off to research Washington. All real signals point to the Whitehouse...

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Neuvirth came in young, younger than Holtby who's at least had a chance to develop a bit more, but I can see how they'd want to be more patient with him rather than rush him like they tried to with Nuevirth and Varlamov. Fair point, and I don't really know what they're thinking so it's just my opinion from what I'd heard prior that they'd be holding that stance and not looking for a replacement.

Hard to think they'd consider moving Orlov to get a goalie a better option at this point though when they'd probably prefer to have him in their lineup to replace Green if he continues to have issues like he had previous.

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That's way too much.

Johansson is probably as valuable as Kassian and Wilson is probably as valuable as Jensen, then Holtby has the value of 10/11 Schneider.

A bit much for us IMO.

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imo If the Canucks made a trade with Washington a realistic and good trade for the Canucks would be:

Chimera, Wilson, Alzner & Neuvirth

for

Luongo & Raymond

I don't think Alzner is untouchable and I like him over Carlson. Last Year Alzner was a +12 while Carlson was a -15, there are a few factors that play into this but that is a huge difference for 2 d-men on the same team. Carlson also has a much bigger contract at 3.967 compared to Alzner's 1.285 although Alzner is a RFA after this season. Carlson is more offensive but in our top 4 D we have plenty of offence.

I like wilson because of his size and physicallity something the Canucks have lacked in the past. I don't think Johansson is the right fit because he is a poor face-off guy and lacks physicality.

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I agree he isn't in their roster currently, but my opinion is they have him lined up to replace Green if need be (considering what Green makes at least if he doesn't perform). I'd certainly put him as the prospect in the deal, with a goalie being more likely as the roster player, then a pick as a possibility.

The only thing that's confusing is who they're watching from that game. Orlov or the other prospects obviously weren't involved, so if they were scouting who were they thinking of? If they just wanted to talk about it, they could have done that over the phone. Perhaps it's just some posturing and doing due diligence.

Man, I'd love to be a fly on the wall of some of these conversations to know what really goes back and forth.

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I would love to be a fly on the wall too, just to see how they deal with transactions, and to finally know the truth behind what is going on and what is on the table and what isn't. I guess we will just have to speculate for now though. lol

It does make sense in some sense, IMO though Carlson is likely the guy to replace Green, not that I think he will go anywhere. But whatever we both have our opinions and thats fine. If they are fine with moving Orlov, a deal like he, Nuevirth and a 1st would be great for us IMO, and it isn't asking a ton of the Capitals.

It is an interesting question, I know Orlov hasn't been in the line-up often, but maybe he was tonight, or maybe they want to get a closer look at the other defensemen or a goaltender. Who knows, it is interesting though and clearly points in the direction that Washington is a serious contender. Which will only add more fuel to our speculation fire. :P

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Yup, Carlson could well be first in line over Orlov if Green drops the ball that's true. I don't think a deal like that would be out of the question either (although defence wouldn't be the first area I'd target apart from a cost effective Ballard replacement).

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