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#1 Goalline

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:25 PM

I think that it is very possible that a deal could be made here, if Bryzgalov keeps playing poorly.

Pieces Vancouver could include:

Corey Schneider
David Booth
Keith Ballard
Jannik Hansen
Mason Raymond


Pieces Philadelphia could include:

Sean Couturier
Brayden Schenn (unlikely)
Jakub Voracek
Wayne Simmonds



I think that the Canucks have a very solid forward group but we seem to have a lot of middling players and not enough star players that will help us get back to where we were in 2011. The Sedins have fallen off a little bit since then, not a lot but a bit. Kesler has been bitten with the injury bug. Malhotra was a completely different player in 2011 and we really miss him being where he was then. It took so much pressure off the top lines!

To Philadelphia

Corey Schneider
Niklas Jennsen
1st Round Pick 2013


To Vancouver

Jakub Voracek
Sean Couturier



I'm not sure if this is enough or what it would take to get this kind of deal done. I think that it is a fair deal

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Booth - Kesler - Voracek
Higgins - Couturier - Burrows
Raymond - Lapierre- Hansen


This gives our lineup tons of speed especially on the fourth line and 2nd lines. Voracek is a passing winger with size that should work well with Booth and Kes. This also allows Couturier and Burrows to play a shutdown role and allows us to roll all four lines.

I would keep Schneider and trade Luongo if I were talking about the future but our time to win is now, and I don't believe Schneider is a significant enough upgrade over Luongo in the present to warrant not trading him if we can get a significant return to bolster our offence.

Edited by Goalline, 02 February 2013 - 07:50 PM.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:26 PM

I think that it is very possible that a deal could be made here, if Bryzgalov keeps playing poorly.

Pieces Vancouver could include:

Corey Schneider
David Booth
Keith Ballard
Jannik Hansen
Mason Raymond


Pieces Philadelphia could include:

Sean Couturier
Brayden Schenn (unlikely)
Jakub Voracek
Wayne Simmonds



I think that the Canucks have a very solid forward group but we seem to have a lot of middling players and not enough star players that will help us get back to where we were in 2011. The Sedins have fallen off a little bit since then, not a lot but a bit. Kessler has been bitten with the injury bug. Malhotra was a completely different player in 2011 and we really miss him being where he was then. It took so much pressure off the top lines!

To Philadelphia

Corey Schneider
Niklas Jennsen
Mason Raymond
1st Round Pick 2013


To Vancouver

Jakub Voracek
Sean Couturier
Maxime Talbot


I'm not sure if this is enough or what it would take to get this kind of deal done. I think that it is a fair deal

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Booth - Kesler - Voracek
Higgins - Couturier - Burrows
Lapierre - Talbot - Raymond


This gives our lineup tons of speed especially on the fourth line. Voracek is a passing winger with size that should work well with Booth and Kes. This also allows Couturier and Burrows to play a shutdown role and give us 3 lines to work with.

I would keep Schneider and trade Luongo if I were talking about the future but our time to win is now, and I doubt think Schneider is that much of an upgrade over Luongo in the next 2-3 years if he is at all.

With that lineup, there is no way we don't win the cup
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:31 PM

With your first trade of Schneider, Ballard and Raymond for Couturier, Voracek and Simmonds (healthy line up)

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Voracek - Kesler - Simmonds
Schroeder - Couturier - Kassian
Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen

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Garrison - Bieksa
Vandermeer - Tanev

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:34 PM

Not bad!
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:43 PM

Why don't we trade our whole lineup for their whole lineup?
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

Too many players being moved.

Definitely not happening.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:55 PM

I would NOT trade Jensen if I was MG, he's putting the team on his back on a very weak European team

I also think the package is too big, and only a combo of those 5 players could be obtained (Couturier, Talbot) or (Simmonds, and Schenn/Voracek)

Personally I'd overpay a bit for Schenn and Voracek, both a very good at both ends of the rink and are fairly gritty, especially Schenn. Voracek is more like Kassian and uses his body, and good positioning to score
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:55 PM

Not sure what your talking about, Bryz has played great.

1st one wouldn't happen.

2nd one might if Bryz falls off a cliff, otherwise that's a no aswell.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

Not sure what your talking about, Bryz has played great.

1st one wouldn't happen.

2nd one might if Bryz falls off a cliff, otherwise that's a no aswell.


1st one wasn't meant to be a trade just some pieces I thought could be involved in a possible deal
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:58 PM

I would NOT trade Jensen if I was MG, he's putting the team on his back on a very weak European team

I also think the package is too big, and only a combo of those 5 players could be obtained (Couturier, Talbot) or (Simmonds, and Schenn/Voracek)

Personally I'd overpay a bit for Schenn and Voracek, both a very good at both ends of the rink and are fairly gritty, especially Schenn. Voracek is more like Kassian and uses his body, and good positioning to score


I really like Jensen too, I just figure by the time he is able to contribute... next year... our team is one year further into their window. I think the oppurtunity is kind of now or never and we should go after it even if it means giving up some big pieces of the future. The good thing is the return is all young players who can help us now and into the future.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:02 PM

I really like Jensen too, I just figure by the time he is able to contribute... next year... our team is one year further into their window. I think the oppurtunity is kind of now or never and we should go after it even if it means giving up some big pieces of the future. The good thing is the return is all young players who can help us now and into the future.


... so you think MG can't wait one year? you think he would trade our top prospect over not having him for half a season?..... LOL
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:03 PM

1st one wasn't meant to be a trade just some pieces I thought could be involved in a possible deal


Ah fair enough, my mistake.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:14 PM

... so you think MG can't wait one year? you think he would trade our top prospect over not having him for half a season?..... LOL


No I think he could wait a year, however this year may be the last year we are contenders. Probably not, we probably have 1-2 seasons after this year before we take a step back but this year would then account for 1/3 of our chances to win the cup. That's quite a significant number, plus the players we would get back aren't 34 or 35, we'd be getting back a 19 year old centerman(same age as Jensen) that can help us now and a 23 year old big right winger. Plus we are getting the size back that we give up on with Jensen.

Edited by Goalline, 02 February 2013 - 08:15 PM.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:19 PM

No I think he could wait a year, however this year may be the last year we are contenders. Probably not, we probably have 1-2 seasons after this year before we take a step back but this year would then account for 1/3 of our chances to win the cup. That's quite a significant number, plus the players we would get back aren't 34 or 35, we'd be getting back a 19 year old centerman(same age as Jensen) that can help us now and a 23 year old big right winger. Plus we are getting the size back that we give up on with Jensen.


personally i would keep luongo and trade schnieder for a package including Ryan Strome
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:20 PM

... so you think MG can't wait one year? you think he would trade our top prospect over not having him for half a season?..... LOL


Think about this.

We either go for the cup now and trade Jensen for something that could help us, or we keep Jensen and when we fall off to a 2nd tier team in three years and Jensen is good we can battle for 8th spot for years like Calgary. Personally I would rather go for it hard right now, and then tank it to rebuild and build a solid team like the Oilers have done.

Jensen is a great player, but by the time he is able to really contribute to this team, not next year more like three years from now, we will be well past our window of opportunity to win the cup.
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:20 PM

personally i would keep luongo and trade schnieder for a package including Ryan Strome


Why Ryan Strome, how does that help our team right now?
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:21 PM

That is the kind of a deal a rebuilding team makes, not a cup contender
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:27 PM

Why Ryan Strome, how does that help our team right now?


... because we need a third line center.... plus people don't seem to understand we have our core set... trading schnieder isn't going to blow our team up... its called tweaking the line up AKA Strome on the third line while planning for the future and keeping your core group of players... if you haven't noticed After Jensen Lack and Corrado our prospects kind of suck... one of the worst prospect depth in the league
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Posted 02 February 2013 - 09:11 PM

... because we need a third line center.... plus people don't seem to understand we have our core set... trading schnieder isn't going to blow our team up... its called tweaking the line up AKA Strome on the third line while planning for the future and keeping your core group of players... if you haven't noticed After Jensen Lack and Corrado our prospects kind of suck... one of the worst prospect depth in the league



I completely agree with you. Our prospects are terrible!

Strome is never going to be a third line center though, he is a top 2 center with plenty of offensive skill. Couturier is a big third line checking center who perform quite well in last year's playoffs.

Strome is going to play the rest of the year in the OHL and will be an impact NHL player in 2-3 years, again by then our team will not be a contender. That's why I say go big or go home, we have the oppurtunity to win the cup now while the Sedin's are still good. Make a trade for a player or players that can help us this year.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:48 AM

I like the second one! Now if someone could just dress up in a bear costume to scare Bryz off. haha
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:49 AM

This isn't even close.

Philly wouldn't move Coutourier OR Schenn for Weber.

Also, have you even watched a Flyers game this year? Bryz has been excellent.

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