darthryan Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 dump an chase system is for the bruins... not the canucks... the canucks don't have big bodies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazzY Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 There are certainly some glaringly obvious issues with this team, and they have been addressed already in this thread I'm sure: the Sedins, the PP, slow starts time and time again. If the playoffs started tomorrow, this team wouldn't get out of the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Compare LA at the beginning of last year til after the second half, coaches murray or sutter.. Night and Day! AV is a good coach, i just feel there's got to be better coaches for the personnel on this team out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Compare LA at the beginning of last year til after the second half, coaches murray or sutter.. Night and Day! AV is a good coach, i just feel there's got to be better coaches for the personnel on this team out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Maybe, but I can't see any reasonable justification for canning AV at this point or any point throughout the season, even if we do struggle from here on out. He's here to stay for the following season at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazzY Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Maybe, but I can't see any reasonable justification for canning AV at this point or any point throughout the season, even if we do struggle from here on out. He's here to stay for the following season at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 It doesnt have to be someone with a ring, just a new voice, maybe a history of being hard assed and hard nosed. Thats what this team needs. When Pittsburgh got Bylsma and won the cup, that was Bylsma's first NHL coaching job. The resume doesnt matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Hmm. It's AV's fault when the team sucks. There's no credit to AV when the team plays well. Should the Aquilini's save their money and have a coach-less team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Why are you slamming Gillis OP.. The system is the coaches problem. Fire AV, time for a shakeup in the locker room, this team doesnt lack skill, it lacks a real leader in the dressing room thats NOT wearing a pair of skates. Players should fear their coach, ask Doughty what he thinks of Sutter. With AV we will never win anything. All of AV's success has been from Gillis, the Sedins, and Luongo. Time for a change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazzY Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Sutter got Calgary to game 7 stanley cup final. That teams problem was management and personnel, he got the most out of his players. MacT got Edmonton to game 7 stanley cup final. That teams problem was management and personnel, he got the most out of his players. Alain Vigneault took a very stacked, lead the league in almost every stat that year, team to game 7 stanley cup finals. Almost blew a 3-0 lead in round one to Chicago, and got spanked 4-0 in game 7 stanley cup final at home, no emotion, 6 packs of gum chewed. Does not get the most out of his players, he is whats holding us back from the holy grail, barring injuries we were almost good enough to do it with(out) him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 My points is AV has been perrenially carried by the goaltending and made to seem like a better coach. Without Roberto AV wouldn't be considered as good as he is. I have already stated why he should go. But what do you think his strengths are? Well if we want to blow possibly our greatest chance at a cup, then by all means. Keep AV, then we can can him next year when we lose all our depth, and we will never get a chance like this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazzY Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 OMG imagine the posting if we were actually near the bottom of the standings. AV WILL NOT BE FIRED WHILE THE CANUCKS ARE STILL WINNING GAMES!!!!! If anyone hopes that the Canucks lose games for this to happen they are NOT Canuck fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Sutter got Calgary to game 7 stanley cup final. That teams problem was management and personnel, he got the most out of his players. MacT got Edmonton to game 7 stanley cup final. That teams problem was management and personnel, he got the most out of his players. Alain Vigneault took a very stacked, lead the league in almost every stat that year, team to game 7 stanley cup finals. Almost blew a 3-0 lead in round one to Chicago, and got spanked 4-0 in game 7 stanley cup final at home, no emotion, 6 packs of gum chewed. Does not get the most out of his players, he is whats holding us back from the holy grail, barring injuries we were almost good enough to do it with(out) him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Guess you didn't want to reply to my long post but I can answer this one: The Canucks Win many more games than they lose with him as the coach. That is all the strengths a coach needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 When did i say that? Quit arguing with everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I still have it in an open tab, I intend to reply to it after my show or tommorow. But here is the thing, there are probably alot of other coaches that could have won with this team too. I mean we are stacked. What are his actual strengths as a coach that help and fit this team? The thing that goes against AV, is since our team is so good, how come we struggle so much and how come the struggles are all the same and how come they keep happening? We can change personnel as much as we want but at a point we have to realize the problems for our failures run deeper than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 My points is AV has been perrenially carried by the goaltending and made to seem like a better coach. Without Roberto AV wouldn't be considered as good as he is. I have already stated why he should go. But what do you think his strengths are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Sutter got Calgary to game 7 stanley cup final. That teams problem was management and personnel, he got the most out of his players. MacT got Edmonton to game 7 stanley cup final. That teams problem was management and personnel, he got the most out of his players. Alain Vigneault took a very stacked, lead the league in almost every stat that year, team to game 7 stanley cup finals. Almost blew a 3-0 lead in round one to Chicago, and got spanked 4-0 in game 7 stanley cup final at home, no emotion, 6 packs of gum chewed. Does not get the most out of his players, he is whats holding us back from the holy grail, barring injuries we were almost good enough to do it with(out) him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Rubbish. Even in Lu's first season, the team defence was the absolute reason for any semblance of success. Night in and night out the defence kept even the most potent offense to the outside. Lu was the icing on the cake. The last 3-4 years, the Canucks offence have carried this team. The numbers do not lie. AV's talents are layered and many. His concept of execution and high % plays with the correct assembly of players works. Players are rewarded with good shifts/games. He seems to have a good eye for players having good or bad stretches, To be fair, he has missed that mark at times with team management. They are very few and far between. How is it not apparent that you fail to witness how he has promoted players and let them play to their strengths?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Sorry bad beats but I have learned that logic and reason has no place here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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