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Lu is the better goalie... right now

CS has the POTENTIAL to be equal if not better but that is an unknown...

Goalies can't score on the Power Play (this for people who hang the Boston Series on Luongo)

Lu is a depreciating asset as he ages and that's why it makes sense to trade him VS CS

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How isnt Lu an asset?

We could get a way better return from Schneider, goaltending is the one position where age affects the least.  Devils went to the finals last year with Brodeur, remember Tim Thomas?

Yes younger is the trend in todays NHL, so that makes Cory worth more, and no long contract. Lu's contract isnt even that bad, 5.333 mill for a top end goalie is below average.

Lol internet tough guy, u probably have a felix potvin jersey

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To all the haters on this site and you know who you are, you make me laugh. You have so much hate that all you can see is nothing beyond what you believe to be true.

These threads are pointless, it is the same argument over and over. Haters of both sides can't see beyond their hate.

I am a huge Lu fan and admit he has had some bumps in the road here in Vancouver. All I can say now is, he is playing lights out and deserves more than your hate. To act like he is the sole reason we have had melt downs in the playoffs, is the stupidest argument ever used. The same meltdown argument can be directed at others as well, such as the Sedins, Kesler, and the defense. Those players don't seem to get as much hate as Lu. Lu has been a elite Goalie here and will always have my support.

For the Cory haters, he will be a star. Accept it and you will feel better. There is no reason for people to be against him in this fan base. This makes no sense to me. All the Cory haters use this small sample of games to claim he is not ready and I say we have not seen anything more than a team adjusting to each other. I firmly think when he gets more games under his belt this season, he will play much better.

As of right now, Lu is still here and while it may not be long, (sad) you need to go with the hot goalie. If and when Cory earns the net back, it will then be his to lose.

Edit: Spelling police caught me. :lol:

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Why do people always hyperbole on here 'Lou Haters'Just because people think its a better HOCKEY decision to go with Schnieder, it does not mean people HATE Lou.These debates simply wouldn't even be happening if the Canucks didn't have a superstar in waiting named Schnieder.If I have a 2006 and 2011 Porsche - and I have a need for a boat, and thus can only afford one superb sports car, do I keep the aging Porsche or the new one? The new one is as good as the old, has more power, and I can get alot for the 2006 because it still looks and runs great, but its just not as new and shiny and as powerful as the 2011. Well, I sell the 2006 so I can buy the boat right?Anyone who says they keep the 2006 because they fell in love with it because it was the first Porsche they bought isn't a business man, he is a romantic and will get taken. I am happy to do business with that person any day of my life.

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Why do people always hyperbole on here 'Lou Haters'Just because people think its a better HOCKEY decision to go with Schnieder, it does not mean people HATE Lou.These debates simply wouldn't even be happening if the Canucks didn't have a superstar in waiting named Schnieder.If I have a 2006 and 2011 Porsche - and I have a need for a boat, and thus can only afford one superb sports car, do I keep the aging Porsche or the new one? The new one is as good as the old, has more power, and I can get alot for the 2006 because it still looks and runs great, but its just not as new and shiny and as powerful as the 2011. Well, I sell the 2006 so I can buy the boat right?Anyone who says they keep the 2006 because they fell in love with it because it was the first Porsche they bought isn't a business man, he is a romantic and will get taken. I am happy to do business with that person any day of my life.

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Assuming that they are both Porsche's.

What if one is a 2006 Lamborghini (Luongo) and the other a 2011 Porsche (Schneider)? And what if you saw the 2014 Porsche model (Lack/Cannata) and you really like how it's coming along, and you think that the 2006 Lamborghini can perform at a top level well past when the 2014 Porsche is ready for the market?

Schneider is not and will never be in the same conversation as Luongo. With Luongo, we're talking a goaltender who is likely to be top 3 in all-time wins when all is said and done. Schneider? He hasn't even played a full season as a starter, and he's already 26. Also, Luongo will be dominant past the time Lack or Cannata are ready, and these two look just as poised as Schneider and look to be taking the same career path.

To be honest, goaltenders like Schneider are plenty in this league - develop in the minors long, play well positionally and mature later to become a starter - Jimmy Howard, Brian Elliott, Mike Smith, Craig Anderson, etc. Both Lack and Cannata are doing similar things as Schneider right now. We can develop another Schneider before Luongo is no longer dominant. But it is rare to have an elite goaltender who will dominate well into his late 30s like Luongo. NJ and VAN have it, LA and MTL will have it. Others look in envy.

I am happy to do business with someone who misjudges their asset and sells me a Lamborghini for the price of a Porsche instead of the Porsche any day of my life. Sad thing is, you might be getting rid of that Porsche anyways in 4-5 years when the new Porsche comes out.

Meanwhile, I plan to ride out supreme quality that will last - that's what we have in Luongo.

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What the hell are you talking about and why are you trying to put words in my mouth?

You keep referring to others as clueless, I've never heard anything remotely well thought out that you have ever posted. All your doing is trolling for an online fight, you need to shut your trap and get a life. Others may have a different opinion then you but if all you can reply is something like this then you are the moron.

You need to stop and think before you post, do I have something of interest to add or am I just trying to troll and being a #*•*^%, if the answer is the later don't post.

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Ok here is an story with the vagas odds for the 2010 Olympics.

While Russia may be able to send out the most dynamic line, it is Canada who will send out the most balanced lines, the best defensive pairings and the top goaltending tandem, which is why Canada is favored to win the gold medal. Playing in front of a rabid crowd in Vancouver, B.C., certainly can't hurt the chances of the Canadians, either.

Odds to Win the 2010 Olympic Hockey Gold Medal

Canada +125

Russia +245

Sweden +425

U.S.A. +800

Czech Republic +1400

Finland +2000

Obviously, the sportsbooks are expecting a two-horse race between Canada and Russia, with Sweden getting the nod over the U.S. for being the third-best team.

It's hard to go against Canada to win the gold, especially with the Canadians being above even money. The team doesn't have a weakness, which isn't necessarily the case with the other big three contenders.

This is a case where my heart says U.S., but my head says look for Canada to end to recapture the gold medal and make the home fans happy.

Now I know you know as well as me that Canada had a stacked team and were heavy favorites to win, unless you just started watching hockey.

This leads to the point that your just try to troll, as you can't say with an ounce of credibility that Canada was not a stacked team.

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This is my last post in response to anything you say back. You need to read and understand posts. Just a tip.

The best stacked team in the Olympics got beat a week earlier to the US.... Fact! Can you argue that? No! Was Lu in net for that game? No! Here is the stat sheet. http://stats.iihf.co...0A06_74_3_1.pdf

Lu was in net for the game that we won the Gold. Here is the stat sheet. http://stats.iihf.co...0101_74_4_0.pdf

It looks like to me that Lu had something to do with the win...

Stats are stats, reality is that Canada won gold, but did it in overtime against a team that beat them before in the same Olympics.

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Ok here is an story with the vagas odds for the 2010 Olympics.

While Russia may be able to send out the most dynamic line, it is Canada who will send out the most balanced lines, the best defensive pairings and the top goaltending tandem, which is why Canada is favored to win the gold medal. Playing in front of a rabid crowd in Vancouver, B.C., certainly can't hurt the chances of the Canadians, either.

Odds to Win the 2010 Olympic Hockey Gold Medal

Canada +125

Russia +245

Sweden +425

U.S.A. +800

Czech Republic +1400

Finland +2000

Obviously, the sportsbooks are expecting a two-horse race between Canada and Russia, with Sweden getting the nod over the U.S. for being the third-best team.

It's hard to go against Canada to win the gold, especially with the Canadians being above even money. The team doesn't have a weakness, which isn't necessarily the case with the other big three contenders.

This is a case where my heart says U.S., but my head says look for Canada to end to recapture the gold medal and make the home fans happy.

Now I know you know as well as me that Canada had a stacked team and were heavy favorites to win, unless you just started watching hockey.

This leads to the point that your just try to troll, as you can't say with an ounce of credibility that Canada was not a stacked team.

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