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#211 nuck nit

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:18 PM

This is not about Cory whining.
This is about his agent telling the story.
If Gillis and Gilman promised him something and now his end is not being met he should have his voice heard.
It is a certainty that Cory went to mgmt. first with any grievance he had.
If this Liut statement had Cory's blessing (and Cory is a bright guy that has not fired his agent upon this story's release) then we have a player that feels he has no other options left other than to air his grievances in public.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:20 PM

...and playing Cory won't allow them to do that?

Reporter: "Cory is apparently upset he isnt getting more starts".
MG : "We need to win games"

Insinuates Cory does not give them a chance to win.

MG should not have bit on this question. It just adds fuel to the Liut comments and gives the press more fodder.


Fair enough. You are correct. :)
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:21 PM

This is not about Cory whining.
This is about his agent telling the story.
If Gillis and Gilman promised him something and now his end is not being met he should have his voice heard.
It is a certainty that Cory went to mgmt. first with any grievance he had.
If this Liut statement had Cory's blessing (and Cory is a bright guy that has not fired his agent upon this story's release) then we have a player that feels he has no other options left other than to air his grievances in public.


unless it's written in his contract that he is the starter and is guaranteed 75% of the games then Gillis and Gilman didn't promise him anything, Gillis even said before the season that every player coming to camp was competing for their job. That included the goalies, and Luongo has beaten out Schneider for the starting job.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:22 PM

Some fans should shut up too. I didn't see anything in the article that suggested or implied Scneider was whining.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:23 PM

Mike Liut should keep his ???? trap shut. If you have an issue with playing time you talk to Gillis and Vigneault, not flap your gums in the media to create even more controversy and put pressure on the GM and coach.

What a lowball tactic.

Can people just shut up and let this team continue winning, please?

Ever thought that maybe they actually did go to MG and AV but yet nothing has changed so he has to come out to the media to get more attention to this problem?

Edited by DreamHerO, 05 February 2013 - 06:30 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:24 PM

Just distractions. What the agent says doesn't matter. As long the team is gelling and winning.

goal tending is least of nux worries right now.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:26 PM

...and playing Cory won't allow them to do that?

Reporter: "Cory is apparently upset he isnt getting more starts".
MG : "We need to win games"

Insinuates Cory does not give them a chance to win.

MG should not have bit on this question. It just adds fuel to the Liut comments and gives the press more fodder.


Wow,... The biggest problem in Canuck land is the Vancouver media..
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:32 PM

Fair enough. You are correct. :)


Damn gillis said that. Than trade Schneider and improve the team than. Or I guess having a 4mil backup goalie might be better than having depth on foward like last year the team was so close in getting out of the first round using two number 1 goalies

Edited by Gonz, 05 February 2013 - 06:33 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:36 PM

After reading the article, it just seems like something an agent will say. It might not even bee directly from Schneider. An agent is concerned about his client's playing time is very normal. The media and especially you guys are making such a big deal about this
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:47 PM

Perhaps this is a positive thing. Teams looking for goaltending will see that he is incredibly eager to play, perhaps a respectable offer addressing the Canucks needs will be made, Gillis will consider it and maybe this gong show will finally end and we'll never have to hear about these two wanting the crease ever again.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:48 PM

schnieder games player

SHARKS - 1 (2nd in league)
ANAHEIM - 2 (3rd in league)
CALGARY - 1 (last in league)


luongo games played

OILERS - 2 (12th in league)
AVS - 1 (21st in league)
KINGS - 1 (26th in league)
HAWKS- 1 (1st in league)


Not making any excuses for Schneider but I'm just pointing out that Luu has played more weaker teams compared to spiderman.


2 of the last 3 cup winners and the best line of budding superstars is weaker? you're basing this on less than 10 games
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:48 PM

unless it's written in his contract that he is the starter and is guaranteed 75% of the games then Gillis and Gilman didn't promise him anything, Gillis even said before the season that every player coming to camp was competing for their job. That included the goalies, and Luongo has beaten out Schneider for the starting job.


Cory could have signed anywhere and it is certain that Cory specified and requested certain requirements to stay on here.Just why do you think his agent has made these statements?
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:59 PM

2 of the last 3 cup winners and the best line of budding superstars is weaker? you're basing this on less than 10 games


Come on? You kidding??? Oilers are going be a good team but they so young. They bound to make mistakes etc and should be easy picking for good teams. I don't think anyone picked oilers to compete for the cup this year
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:02 PM

Cory could have signed anywhere and it is certain that Cory specified and requested certain requirements to stay on here.Just why do you think his agent has made these statements?


And Lu is a great goaltender that deserves to be number 1 on any team. And Schneider is being paid 4 mil I guess people expect him to be a greedy person and just sit as backup and get paid 4 mil. Why would it be hard for people to understand that it would be reasonable for Cory to hope for a chance to be a number one goal tender at this stage of his career.
They are athletes who strive on competing but I guess alot average people would be happy sitting and collecting 4 mil

Edited by Gonz, 05 February 2013 - 07:04 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:08 PM

Bye Schneider.

Vancouver remembered who Luongo was (and it was about damn time), we don't need you no more if you're going to ask your Agent do start up talks like this.

Just like Hodgson, we'll get some great assets for you while we patiently wait for Lack to come into his role.

People who say "Schneider's agent isn't Schneider truth is, an Agent would be fired for talking crap like this unless he was asked to.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:10 PM

Cory could have signed anywhere and it is certain that Cory specified and requested certain requirements to stay on here.Just why do you think his agent has made these statements?


Assuming makes an ass out of you only in this case. What do you know of what was signed? The guy doesn't even have an NTC/NMC or anything of the sort. You earn your play time and look at the numbers at a glance. Simple fact, the reason we've kept Luongo on this team for ages is because he is an Elite goalie. IMO he has been a Top 3 Goalie in the past 5 years and will continue to do so for the next 4 years. (He's only 33....)
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:13 PM

Play better and you won't need to complain. Right now Luongo is the better goalie
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:16 PM

Come on? You kidding??? Oilers are going be a good team but they so young. They bound to make mistakes etc and should be easy picking for good teams. I don't think anyone picked oilers to compete for the cup this year


just because no ones picking them to win the cup this year doesnt mean they're nothing to worry about. my point is its senseless to compare opponents after such a small sample of games.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:17 PM

People who say "Schneider's agent isn't Schneider truth is, an Agent would be fired for talking crap like this unless he was asked to.


Not really. No one will fire their agent for doing their job.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:17 PM

Assuming makes an ass out of you only in this case. What do you know of what was signed? The guy doesn't even have an NTC/NMC or anything of the sort. You earn your play time and look at the numbers at a glance. Simple fact, the reason we've kept Luongo on this team for ages is because he is an Elite goalie. IMO he has been a Top 3 Goalie in the past 5 years and will continue to do so for the next 4 years. (He's only 33....)

You have no idea what was said.
I am all for keeping Luo but a player does not air his grievances in public unless it is one of his last options.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:20 PM

Simple fact, the reason we've kept Luongo on this team for ages is because he is an Elite goalie. IMO he has been a Top 3 Goalie in the past 5 years and will continue to do so for the next 4 years. (He's only 33....)

Funny that Roberto has publicly stated he never dreamed of coming back to Vancouver to play as a Canuck.
Simple fact is that MG decided to get rid of Luo and could not or did not so he is the incompetent goof creating problems.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

Come on? You kidding??? Oilers are going be a good team but they so young. They bound to make mistakes etc and should be easy picking for good teams. I don't think anyone picked oilers to compete for the cup this year


maybe not the cup but the Oilers aren't the joke they used to be, they aren't an easy win anymore.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:26 PM

Cory could have signed anywhere and it is certain that Cory specified and requested certain requirements to stay on here.


Cory was an RFA. go on...
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:30 PM

Wow the Vancouver Sun had this story last night and it's all just getting noticed today
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:32 PM

all this is a result of the Vancouver media wanting to run one of the best goaltenders to have played for the canucks out of town

let me ask, who would you rather have in goal? Niemi, Crawford, Halak, Howard, Quick, Hiller, Elliot, Dubnyk, Smith, Rinne, Backstrom, Varlamov, Mason, Kiprusoft? Take a look, these are all the western division goaltenders, I'll take Luongo over any one of them.

Luongo took us within one game of winning the stanley cup and we only lost because we ran into a red hot Tim Thomas

Everyone wants Schneider to be no. 1, is he that much of an upgrade over Luongo?.

I just hope that when Luongo is finally run out of town, Schneider can fulfill the hopes of the media and the fans and not wilt like almost every other goalie that has played for the Vancouver canucks
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:34 PM

RFA eligible players can have other interested parties wishing to sign them.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:34 PM

Wow just reading through this thread and seeing the people bash Cory like that. This place is hilarious. Now everyone loves Louie and wants to run Cory out of town. Nice.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:35 PM

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:53 PM

SHORTENED SEASON = WE NEED TO WIN! Lou is hot and we are riding him. Cory undoubtedly understands this and his agent was just being an idiot. Can someone start a new thread that is interesting?
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:00 PM

SHORTENED SEASON = WE NEED TO WIN! Lou is hot and we are riding him. Cory undoubtedly understands this and his agent was just being an idiot. Can someone start a new thread that is interesting?


How is our backup goaltender's agent unprofessionally venting for him through the media not interesting. :huh:

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