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#61 Snake Doctor

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:59 PM

The people who want AV fired also want Linden to coach the team.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:01 PM

bylsma won a cup, but if he under succeeds with his team how long of a leash do you think he has?

Same goes with: tortorella, Babcock, Quenville, Laviolette.

Look at boudreau, Carlyle. They had very good teams one of them won a cup and they both got removed of their jobs. After a while players seem to tune out their coaches and need a wake up call or a shake up in the room to get re juvenated. Its quite common to happen in sports, especially hockey
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:04 PM

Moving Tanev might not work leave him with Ballard they play well together it doesn't really matter if he's playing all three pairs regularly
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:04 PM

Linden wouldnt be a suitable coach, he hasnt done any coaching. Nor would I give it to scott arniel.

when we got eliminated in round 1 last year, with all the speculation and success bob hartley had in europe I would have like to see us try and get him. he won a cup with a team that had talent.

as for a replacement, so many coaches now are just redundant, they get fired from x team and then re hired by Y team. Im not sure who is out their as a coach right now, but obviously we arent going to do anything with the coach till maybe later this spring if the canucks have another early exit from the post season. If that happens, there have to be discussions about the coach going. If a year or two later the new coach doesnt work, then the next axe to fall is the GM.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:09 PM

See that's what I'm saying? Linden might be a good coach.... after a few years at the job. He has no professional experience, and just knowing hockey isn't good enough (I hear that Gretzky kid was both very good at hockey but very bad at coaching) so, in the end, you'd have to give him the same rope that you're currently using to string up AV. You can't get better RIGHT NOW with another coach. You have, at most, 2-3 years before there's going to be a massive turnover in players, and that's the time to make a change. Until Luongo, the Sedins, etc are past their prime or gone, there's no benefit in teaching a group that is only now fully ingrained in AVs system a completely different playbook. AV knows hockey enough to, you know, be one of the winningest coaches during his tenure. There is no one, especially not Trevor Linden, that I can think of that would be better. Hold the course, because it won't get better than this.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:10 PM

I share the same concern.

The team has been struggling. It''s understandable AV is trying to get them clicking but going back to what has given regular season success but playoff failure would be a shame.

The Sedins and Burrows have been great but in the playoffs, too often, completely man-handled and shut down. That was the whole purpose of having a guy like Kassian on the1st line.

Same with the goalies. Sure Lu has played well but aside form the opening game (where the entire team pooped the bed) Schneider has played very well. Why not platoon them so they can both get in a groove and be ready when it counts?

AV is a good coach but he is definitely a "what works now" coach when this team needs to be working towards what will work in May.

I don't think I would be that concerned about Kassian. I think the move last night was more about getting the Sedins going than Kassian not meeting expectations. Once Burrows was on the line I thought the Sedins looked more comfortable.

The move of Hansen also worked out positively. The adjustments are what turned the tide of the game in our favour. Adjustments are what coaching is all about and last night AV and his gang did a good job.

As far as the goaltending situation I like the play the hottest goalie decision. Schneider will likely get in for the Minnesota game despite Lou's current run as the Excel Centre has not been kind to him at all. I didn't think Schneider looked great against San Jose or Anaheim so he needs to earn his time back.

The goaltender situation is a conundrum. Your platoon idea makes sense to keep both goalies going until a trade occurs but the shortened 48 game season throws that idea for a bit of a loop. The last lockout teams that had poor starts had difficulty recovering. This time with 2 and 3 point games more teams may stay very bunched together which could be just as dangerous as a slow start. Since missing 2/3 of our 2nd line is affecting our offensive output AV needs to lean on goaltending to make sure we are getting W and at worst OTL's to keep us in or ahead of the race.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:25 PM

Maybe in a couple years, Gelinas will have gained experience as a coach, not saying hed be our next coach. But i do think it would be nice to have someone connected with the team or past experience be given a shot to coach on our farm team and build his way up to be the canucks coach.

Linden doesnt seem interested in going that route, he seems more suited for a management type of position or advisory role. But he is quite involved in developement and his gym right now.

Id love to see ex canucks, kinda like ryan walter. I will throw out some names: Mclean, Ronning, Linden, Morrison, Gelinas, etc the list could go on.

But id like to see us bring back some of those types of guys and incorporate them into our system in some way.

Linden could follow Joe sakic and take a bit of time of maybe a few more years and then get back involved with the team
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:29 PM

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AV's regular seasons has never really been the issue (though his handling of Ballard, younger players and a replacement for Daniel Sedin last season are still mind boggling), it's his inabillity to adapt his game in the playoffs when things are going south. Nothing shows me he's learned his lesson. Mr. 'Gant for sure
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:57 PM

I agree on the lines here. But I really hope Higgins could produce a little more offense. He is one of those characters that need to be able to step up at a time like this, with the injuries, and make something happen. And although I like Kassian on the first with the Sedins - it was ice to see Burr there again.


Higgins has been getting better each time out - just a matter of time and chance.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:01 PM

Did I? Did I miss that part? A couple of turnovers negate leading the team in goals?
Bieksa, Ballard and Edler all handed the puck over a half dozen times. Are they benched, demoted, admonished in any way? No. You know why? Because that would be a stupid, knee-jerk reaction. The twins haven't done SQUAT this season and have they been demoted to line 3? Not just one game, but almost every game. Nope. they sit on the top line like the untouchables they are.
Yeah. You and AV are peas in a developmentally disabled pod.

Yah you did miss a lot and are missing a hell of a lot. Boohoo he demoted my Kassian waaah you're a pathetic whiner. Guess if the twins have done squat then it will be better for Kassian to be put on the third line where he can really shine :rolleyes: When Kassian wins a Hart or an Art Ross he will probably get some leeway as well.

Also if Kassian was a Dman he would get way more leeway, want to know why? Do you? See if your brain can handle this, there are less dmen than forwards. I hope that wasn't too hard for you to understand. I will give you one thing though your avatar is perfect, you and him probably share the same IQ.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:12 PM

the need for such hate? thats whats wrong with all forums. People are going to post things that are out of this world, but its best to just avoid what they say and dont let that bring the topic down.

I know thats not easy with all the crazy and asburd talk that goes on, but its never gonna change, so we have to learn to read past the insane unrealistic stuff if we want to engage in proper hockey talk.

Just adding fuel to the fire when you say what you did, hey ppl may agree with you and have a valid point but it just enrages others and gets to be nonsense bull crap on a hockey forum i want to talk hockey on not list and hear ppl whine and bitch and internet fight
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:16 PM

He's a good coach but it's time for a change.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:40 PM

SO how do the twins adjust to playing with Kassian - the type of player everyone admits they need on their line to be successful in the playoffs - if they get their "comfort" zone back again when they fail to play well?

Kassian isn't an enforcer you can just throw out on the line for a couple of shifts in the playoffs to send a message. He is best used as a regular creating space and time. That is different than what Burrows does. If the Sedins want to be successful post-season, they need to adjust their game to this.

Kassian is not the reason the Sedins have been playing poorly. I love Burrows but him with the twins makes that a soft line that can be man-handles when the intensity heats up in the playoffs.


It's good to have options for the Sedin line. Burr or Kass can be utilized according to the team they're playing or how well the line connecting.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

SO how do the twins adjust to playing with Kassian - the type of player everyone admits they need on their line to be successful in the playoffs - if they get their "comfort" zone back again when they fail to play well?

Kassian isn't an enforcer you can just throw out on the line for a couple of shifts in the playoffs to send a message. He is best used as a regular creating space and time. That is different than what Burrows does. If the Sedins want to be successful post-season, they need to adjust their game to this.

Kassian is not the reason the Sedins have been playing poorly. I love Burrows but him with the twins makes that a soft line that can be man-handles when the intensity heats up in the playoffs.


My answer for posts above and below is that Kassian deserved to play when he was first promoted. Man, he went from side board to underneath the net, back out front, powered to the corner to dig out the puck. He did it all with explosiveness, maintained it the whole game, hit people, fought others, and still had soft hands to make plays. Oh, he also went to the net, was rewarded with passes which he converted. Well earned time; and I was a documented Kassian doubter.

5 games later, well, he looked a bit tired. Maybe the pace was getting to him, a tad sore, maybe an injury? He did not have the same jump. After what we saw, I'm sure AV said to him "Don't worry son, you'll get another crack." A young guy just needs to learn, and let his body adapt, to that kind of pace over an 2 (ahem 48) game schedule. Especially a big body who was pushing himself the way he was.

You just can't have it every night; so cudo's to AV for bringing up someone else who had more energy on the night!

And we'll need more than just Kassian as an option come play off time anyway...

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BTW, yes Kassian is scoring lots of goals, but the Sedins look lost and confused out there with him on the ice. The second Burrows was placed back on that line, they started to click. Burrows is smart, he understands the Sedins. Burrows gets it, he doesnt just go to the front of the net and stand there and wait for a tip in...Kudos to Kassian. I think hes doing great. But we need Burrows back on that line.


If there was fair critique of AV its this below. But 4 years ago he popped Samuelsson up with the Twins when Quenneville brutalized them with size match ups (he did the same to our D). We almost came through that year on that adjustment, but Luongo had a bad night.

The next year Samuelsson was injured and we had no such options, so we bowed out a little easier. Same against Boston.

Part of the issue is whether we have the physical pieces to play against match ups crafted by opposing coaches.

AV's regular seasons has never really been the issue (though his handling of Ballard, younger players and a replacement for Daniel Sedin last season are still mind boggling), it's his inabillity to adapt his game in the playoffs when things are going south. Nothing shows me he's learned his lesson. Mr. 'Gant for sure


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

AV's regular seasons has never really been the issue (though his handling of Ballard, younger players and a replacement for Daniel Sedin last season are still mind boggling), it's his inabillity to adapt his game in the playoffs when things are going south. Nothing shows me he's learned his lesson. Mr. 'Gant for sure


This, no one is saying he's a terrible coach, obviously he's a decent one, but he's had more then enough time with an ELITE team and he only took us to the finals once. In that trip to the finals we almost lost to the Hawks for the 3rd time in a row after we had the series in a choke hold, then the only reason we beat Nashville is because of Kesler, and we had a pretty embarrassing effort in the last few games of the finals imo.

We rely on our elite goal tending and our power play too much to win games, then in the playoffs when we get dummied all the blame goes to Luongo....

I just think we need a coach who is good at motivating their players, I haven't seen our team play to their full potential since the Boston game last year.

You can't motivate a team if you don't talk to them in the locker room. (which he said he doesn't numerous times and Schneider said AV doesn't even tell the goalies who is starting)

There's no one to replace him right now though that is better, so unless he wins a cup or actually coaches this team to it's full potential then he should be gone in the off season.

It's time for a new voice to get them motivated, Lindy Ruff is the most winningest coach in Sabres history I'm pretty sure and he's in danger of losing his job...

Edited by TheGame., 05 February 2013 - 04:50 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:52 PM

I personally thought AV has been doing a much better job these last 3 games then he has since before Duncan Keith's hit on Daniel. I also believe that he is still failing to have the players prepared for the game and really needs to learn how to light a fire under their collective butts. I think he completely deserves this year to show he belongs here still, but no cup should be his last chance. Nothing against his style but I believe he is just too friendly with his players now.

And to all those people who are wondering who we should hire, I would suggest a strong look at the Marlies Coach Dallas Eakins. He is arguably the best developer of young players right now and has an incredible record with the Marlies and his special teams since he has been coach have been nothing short of spectacular.

Also if I was AV I would consider this for the next 2 games against the Wild and the Flamers to help get everyone going.
  • 1st Period **************** 2nd Period ************** 3rd Period
  • Sedins + Hans ********** Sedins + Kass ********* Sedins + Burr
  • Ray + Schro + Burr **** Ray + Schro + Hans *** Ray + Schro + Kass
  • Volp + Lappy + Kass *** Volp + Lappy + Burr *** Volp + Lappy + Hans
My thinking is you can throw some big hits in the first period, have an effective defensive second line and speed in the first line. This will hopefully minimize our chance of giving up an early lead with the added effect of tiring out their defensive pairings. In the second period have Kass using his body to help the Sedins and use a ridiculously fast 2nd line that will wear out the defense even more and then have a decent shut down third line. Then in the 3rd, use the chemistry of the Sedins and Burrows to capitalize on a tired defense while using Ray and Schro's speed to help break the offensive zone and have Kass rush the net for some good off the rush opportunites and use the 3rd line to keep playing aggressively and further push the Defense on their toes. And put out your 4th line as much as possible because the combo of Malhotra + Weise + Higgy to more then hold their own and generate scoring opportunites as well as keepo the top 3 lines rested so they can do their thing.

I may be a moron, but trust me on Dallas Eakins.

Edited by Kassian's Face, 05 February 2013 - 04:56 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:54 PM

I may be a moron

First sensible thing I have ever seen you post
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:00 PM

Anyone that says fire AV does not have a clue. Nice thread, praise the man! ::D


Pretty much. I like AV. He's a good coach.

Unfortunately, CDC goes like this:

CDC: FIRE AV HE SUXORZ LOST GAME 7 FIZINALLSSS

*win three games in a row

CDC: YAH AV IS DA MAAN I ALWAYZ BELIEVED IN HIM
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:01 PM

My favourite criticism is that he does not know how to develop young players.

When he took over, the Sedins were young "excellent 2nd liners, but not 1st liners"; Kesler was a "very good 3rd C, but nothing more"; Burrows was a "fringe bottom-6"; Edler and Hansen were raw rookies; etc, etc...

Nobody saw two Art Ross trophies, a Selke, and 30 goals out of the likes of these guys. And yet, they developed those heights completely under AV's tutelage. Edler is an allstar defenseman now. Hansen, who used to hit less than the Sedins, has been transformed into one of the most effective forecheckers around. The evidence continues to mount.

What is the explanation from the AV doubters? Coincidence? They did this 'in spite of' poor coaching? Seriously?

Nothing but total, complete ignorance.


Agreed haha.. I dunno everyone is entitled to heir opinion but in my opinion the evidence speaks for itself. People are calling out the fact the Sedins played less late in the game but should have played more just to work out of the slump. Well this is a 48 game season, 2 points are very important and the division lead was at stake. Other players were playing better so they played more and we won in the end. The twins aren't going to start on the third line next game, they're going to have a fresh start to break their funk with the top minutes like usual. What's the problem?

If we had rode them in the third and they got scored on everyone would still be chirping the coach saying why the hell didnt he play Higgins and Hansen more in the third. It's a double edge hate the coach sword that will never give him credit where credit is due.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:02 PM

Yah you did miss a lot and are missing a hell of a lot. Boohoo he demoted my Kassian waaah you're a pathetic whiner. Guess if the twins have done squat then it will be better for Kassian to be put on the third line where he can really shine :rolleyes: When Kassian wins a Hart or an Art Ross he will probably get some leeway as well.

Also if Kassian was a Dman he would get way more leeway, want to know why? Do you? See if your brain can handle this, there are less dmen than forwards. I hope that wasn't too hard for you to understand. I will give you one thing though your avatar is perfect, you and him probably share the same IQ.

This is your comment: "Yah cause players automatically deserve ice time rather than having to earn it :rolleyes: Playing behind Hansen and Burr would be good for Kassian to see what it takes to bring it each every game."
You are saying Kass hasn't earned his ice time. You were wrong, and you were blindly supporting the decision to send him down to the 3rd line. I was calling BS on that, and on AV's decision to send him down.
Luckily for AV two D-men bailed him out this time. Burr certainly didn't. Henrik didn't either. Neither did Daniel.
I have said numerous times that AV is a good coach.
But your brilliant insights into my avatar, a photograph of an actor, and your characterization of me as a pathetic whiner really hit close to home. I am humbled by your rapier wit and razor sharp intellect. There are more forwards than d-men indeed. I have only now wrapped my slightly sloping brain around this idea, and I now see that clearly Kassian, the team's leading scorer clearly needed to be moved down to the third line so that two d-men with 1 point between them could bail AV out.
You've enlightened me. Bravo! And thank you!
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Miller is not on our list. It's Lack as our #1. There is no reason we would have traded both Schnieder and Luongo if we never intended to give Lack the #1 starting job.  Furthermore, the salary and term Miller is looking for is not in our favor.

 


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:05 PM

This is your comment: "Yah cause players automatically deserve ice time rather than having to earn it :rolleyes: Playing behind Hansen and Burr would be good for Kassian to see what it takes to bring it each every game."
You are saying Kass hasn't earned his ice time. You were wrong, and you were blindly supporting the decision to send him down to the 3rd line. I was calling BS on that, and on AV's decision to send him down.
Luckily for AV two D-men bailed him out this time. Burr certainly didn't. Henrik didn't either. Neither did Daniel.
I have said numerous times that AV is a good coach.
But your brilliant insights into my avatar, a photograph of an actor, and your characterization of me as a pathetic whiner really hit close to home. I am humbled by your rapier wit and razor sharp intellect. There are more forwards than d-men indeed. I have only now wrapped my slightly sloping brain around this idea, and I now see that clearly Kassian, the team's leading scorer clearly needed to be moved down to the third line so that two d-men with 1 point between them could bail AV out.
You've enlightened me. Bravo! And thank you!

You're welcome
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:11 PM

AV is a great coach. So is pretty much every head coach in the league. Sometimes you have to change things up to shake up the team. I dont see us in that situation yet. I do think that we need a new powerplay perpsective. I think Newell Brown is the one responsible for that. In past years our PP was tops in the league. But the last couple of playoffs and this season looks dreadfull. Games that could be put away are lingering on and this is something that needs attention. My guess is they are waiting for Kesler to come back and bring the net presence. But I feel our pp is very predictable and other teams coaches are able to defend against it easily. So my vote would be to replace Newell Brown and get a new PP vision.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:11 PM

BTW, yes Kassian is scoring lots of goals, but the Sedins look lost and confused out there with him on the ice. The second Burrows was placed back on that line, they started to click. Burrows is smart, he understands the Sedins. Burrows gets it, he doesnt just go to the front of the net and stand there and wait for a tip in...Kudos to Kassian. I think hes doing great. But we need Burrows back on that line.


I think KASSIAN was told to go in front of the net... I watched him free himself to help the cycle and they rarely passed to him.... The oilers being a fast team I think the sedins needed burrows last night defensively help out... Chemistry yes cause they've been together for eons.... Against a bigger team I think KASSIAN goes back with them....
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:11 PM

Pretty much. I like AV. He's a good coach.

Unfortunately, CDC goes like this:

CDC: FIRE AV HE SUXORZ LOST GAME 7 FIZINALLSSS

*win three games in a row

CDC: YAH AV IS DA MAAN I ALWAYZ BELIEVED IN HIM


Comical and pathetically true.

Coaching has never been a problem.

The numbers and recent past success do not lie.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:23 PM

I'm sorry but when it comes to the playoffs and the intensity per each game is more immense, AV has not showed his ability to adapt to changes or motivate the players. Even after games when they're asked what the coach had to say, and they mention how he didn't talk to the group...it really makes you wonder how much a good coach could unleash the capability of this team.

Yes the veterans of the team lead our group of players, but we need a coach that can motivate and inspire our players give it their all when it comes to playoff games instead of looking disoriented.

The lack of communication he has with his players was shown when Schneider said that he wasn't contacted by AV when Lu was given the nod for the Hawks game. This kind of communication has to happen, to show he has trust in all his players.

And Bones and Brown should be dumped. Our PP is way too predictable every game (see PP %) and besides our third pairing our top 4 D have looked like bottom pairing guys. Our defence always looks the most weak in the playoffs, when we need it the most.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:31 PM

I'm sorry but when it comes to the playoffs and the intensity per each game is more immense, AV has not showed his ability to adapt to changes or motivate the players. Even after games when they're asked what the coach had to say, and they mention how he didn't talk to the group...it really makes you wonder how much a good coach could unleash the capability of this team.

Yes the veterans of the team lead our group of players, but we need a coach that can motivate and inspire our players give it their all when it comes to playoff games instead of looking disoriented.

The lack of communication he has with his players was shown when Schneider said that he wasn't contacted by AV when Lu was given the nod for the Hawks game. This kind of communication has to happen, to show he has trust in all his players.

And Bones and Brown should be dumped. Our PP is way too predictable every game (see PP %) and besides our third pairing our top 4 D have looked like bottom pairing guys. Our defence always looks the most weak in the playoffs, when we need it the most.


Agreed, some people don't get it and are fine with Presidents Trophy's. Look at AV's record in the playoffs even before he coached the nucks.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:40 PM

Vigneault is one of this franchise's best-ever coaches, when he's done here they should put a statue of him out there next to Neilson...it will be of him laughing at Fiddler's Bieksa impression.

Agreed, some people don't get it and are fine with Presidents Trophy's. Look at AV's record in the playoffs even before he coached the nucks.


It's not that people are fine with winning the Presidents' Trophy. It's that we understand, winning the Cup is difficult. The best way to go after it is to have a solid, contending team, year after year, and give yourself as many shots at it as possible because a lot of things can go wrong, a lot of random stuff can prevent you winning in any given season. Every year we go in with a team good enough to be a serious contender is a year we are doing well. Except for maybe the first two seasons, when it was borderline, we've had that every season Vigneault has been here, he's given us a legitimate shot at a championship, you can't ask for more than that, keep doing that and eventually you're gonna win.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:17 PM

I think AV should consider giving Tanev a promotion after the goal last night and his display of composure throughout his young career.


Oh for sure! Based on that one goal they should offer him a new contract for $5M a season for the next 10 years! That goal was just that good! He is our next franchise D man without.a.doubt.

Also, based on last nights performance they should trade the Sedins, make Hansen the Captain, and trade Corey Schnieder because alls he did all night was sit around on the bench. Oh, and AV should be anointed honourary Prime Minister by the people of Canada due to his ingenious line up changes. I mean c'mon putting Burrows on the top line? Incredible! My mind is blown!

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:31 PM

I'm sorry but when it comes to the playoffs and the intensity per each game is more immense, AV has not showed his ability to adapt to changes or motivate the players. Even after games when they're asked what the coach had to say, and they mention how he didn't talk to the group...it really makes you wonder how much a good coach could unleash the capability of this team.

Yes the veterans of the team lead our group of players, but we need a coach that can motivate and inspire our players give it their all when it comes to playoff games instead of looking disoriented.

The lack of communication he has with his players was shown when Schneider said that he wasn't contacted by AV when Lu was given the nod for the Hawks game. This kind of communication has to happen, to show he has trust in all his players.

And Bones and Brown should be dumped. Our PP is way too predictable every game (see PP %) and besides our third pairing our top 4 D have looked like bottom pairing guys. Our defence always looks the most weak in the playoffs, when we need it the most.


Yes, agree absolutely. AV keeps with the same system year in and year out. Everyone has it figured out by now. Dump it in, cycle in the corner, send it back to the point. They say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity and yet that is what we continue to do year after year in the playoff's. It might be effective for a game or two but then the opposition figures it out and makes adjustments. What I don't see is the Canucks making adjustments to counter.

I'd love to see and interview with Scotty Bowman or Don Cherry where they talk about what goes on in the dressing room. I can guarantee they won't say that they don't talk in the room and let the guys sort it out. What else does the coach do if he doesn't interact with his players?!?

I live AV but I think it is time for a change here in Vancouver and since he seems reluctant to change the system we need to bring in a new coach with a new system.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:44 PM

I'd prefer the lines to be(when Kesler and Booth return)

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Kassian
Raymond-Schroeder-Hansen
Higgins-Laprierre/Manny-Weise/Laprierre

Manny
Weise

Second line would be such a difficult line to deal with, with two Power Forwards, and a Selke winning Two Way Defenseman, First Line seems a bit more natural after watching Burrows play last game with the Sedins, and the Third Line is probably one of the speediest lines ever conceived :bigblush:

The Fourth Line is the only line I have trouble deciding on, and defensive pairings seem to get more difficult to construct as the games go on.

Really this team needs to be confident in where they are playing, that's why I think AV did a good job last night, but I can say the offensive struggle as of late probably has something to do with the constant line juggling game to game.
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